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Brian Beutler @brianbeutlerBrett Kavanaugh just said he agrees that IF the mandate without tax penalty is unconstitutional, then it should be severed. So this case is over.
Steve Vladeck @steve_vladeck ·8m
This is the most important line that any Justice could've said at this morning's #ACA argument.
If Justice Kavanaugh believes that the individual mandate is "severable" from the rest of the statute, then there's no way to count to five votes to throw out the *entire* law.
Link to tweet
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)without some sort of mandate to prevent free riders. Everybody has to be in the pool or it doesn't work.
Or you get Draconian and reinstitute preexisting conditions. The only difference being if you current health plan goes away for some reason, then the insurance company is obligated to take you on a new plan.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)but at least it sounds like an easier problem to fix than wholesale destruction of the ACA.
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)still_one
(92,190 posts)voiding the ACA
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)This is some good news!
ananda
(28,859 posts)The law is toothless without the mandate.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)than blowing up the entire law, right?
Once we have a majority, we can push an appropriate fix via reconciliation, right?
BComplex
(8,050 posts)So let's send Stacy Abrams some $$$LOVE$$$
still_one
(92,190 posts)Senate who might work with the Democrats on this, and if McConnell refuses to bring anything to the floor, repercussions for his party may be felt in 2022 because of that
I think trump is the major obstacle, and with him gone, that wont be over hanging the hesitancy of some republicans
Blasphemer
(3,261 posts)It is bullet-proof re: the U.S.S.C. I say this as someone who is generally a pragmatist and not a Bernie Bro type. I followed the ACA debates very closely. I was optimistic about the public option and expanded Medicare plan that Lieberman and Baucus derailed. It's clear now that the only way forward is to go all in.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)For instance the Section 230 protections on websites were part of the Communications Decency Act (CDA) of 1996, much of which got tossed as unconstitutional. Section 230 remains law, while other parts of the act are not law.
MontanaFarmer
(630 posts)Kavanaugh has signaled this in prior cases, as noted in the OP. He's favored the principle of unconstitutional (in his judgment) parts of laws being severable from the rest of the law. This case is ridiculous, there's no way it should have even been heard, and I'd be shocked if they invalidated the entire law. The really silly part is there may be 4 votes in favor of invalidating the law based on this bullshit argument. I suspect Roberts votes to uphold the law as written, that the mandate is constitutional as an exercise of taxing power (he already said this of course), Kavanaugh concurs in upholding the law but states the mandate is unconstitutional, and my other bet is that Clarence Thomas is an idiot.