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(22,236 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:40 PM Nov 2020

Would Reagan in his prime have done better or worse than Trump if he was the 2020 Repub candidate?

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Reagan would have done better than Trump.
6 (75%)
Reagan would have done worse than Trump.
0 (0%)
It would have been about the same.
2 (25%)
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Would Reagan in his prime have done better or worse than Trump if he was the 2020 Repub candidate? (Original Post) mtnsnake Nov 2020 OP
He would never get the nomination JCMach1 Nov 2020 #1
I watched some of a Bush / Regan primary debate recently Eid Ma Clack Shaw Nov 2020 #2
+1 NT aaaaaa5a Nov 2020 #4
Reagan knew there was a line he couldn't cross. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #3
Would Mike Deaver and Ed Reese be involved? OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #5
In spirit. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #8
He wouldn't have survived the primaries. Too liberal. catbyte Nov 2020 #6
Regan wasn't a sociopath Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2020 #7

Eid Ma Clack Shaw

(490 posts)
2. I watched some of a Bush / Regan primary debate recently
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:43 PM
Nov 2020

and the portion on immigration would, if uttered by a GOP candidate today, have both branded as dangerous enemies of American sovereignty and probably designated potential communists.

Ronald Reagan would be a left-wing insurgent in the present day Republican Party.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
3. Reagan knew there was a line he couldn't cross.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:45 PM
Nov 2020

I'm reading a book called Unholy by Sarah Posner, and she writes that the Christian RWers were actually disappointed that Reagan didn't do more for them, because he still believed there was separation of church and state, or at least didn't push for policies that went too far. Although, there are huge and glaring gaps in my knowledge of what Reagan did do (although I remember the Iran-Contra hearings).

OAITW r.2.0

(24,977 posts)
5. Would Mike Deaver and Ed Reese be involved?
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 12:48 PM
Nov 2020

Because they were the power behind the throne....then yes, they were the prototypical Republican schemers from which future Republican schemers aspired to.

Kid Berwyn

(15,322 posts)
8. In spirit.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

Reagan, White As Snow

by Alec Dubro
www.tompaine.com/, May 13, 2007


Domestically, he opposed every legislative remedy for African Americans, betraying a meanness of spirit and an open racism. As Sidney Blumenthal wrote in The Guardian in 2003:

Reagan opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, opposed the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (calling it "humiliating to the South", and ran for governor of California in 1966 promising to wipe the Fair Housing Act off the books. "If an individual wants to discriminate against Negroes or others in selling or renting his house," he said, "he has a right to do so." After the Republican convention in 1980, Reagan traveled to the county fair in Neshoba, Mississippi, where, in 1964, three Freedom Riders had been slain by the Ku Klux Klan. Before an all-white crowd of tens of thousands, Reagan declared: "I believe in states' rights."

It's hard to believe now, but in 1965, a higher percentage of congressional Republicans voted for the Voting Rights Act than Democrats. Reagan, then, wasn't following party tradition; he was making a grab for the white racist vote-and it worked. Southern Democrats abandoned the party en masse for one more welcoming to white supremacy. No wonder so many loved, and still love, the man: He validated people's whiteness.

It's true that Reagan knew enough to occasionally disguise his racism. He appointed Samuel Pierce to head the Department of Housing and Urban Development, where Pierce presided over the halving of housing subsidies. No matter. Reagan couldn't remember the man's name. Once, at a reception for the nation's mayors, he greeted Pierce with a '"Hello, Mr. Mayor." Despite this, a few black conservatives, such as Armstrong Williams, were willing to validate him as someone who knew better than the "civil rights establishment" what was good for African Americans.

But it was in foreign affairs that he showed that he could rise above mere opportunism and flaunt his racism for all the world to see. He was the best friend that South Africa's apartheid government had in the developed world.


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