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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:50 PM Nov 2020

I am beginning to think that Joe is such a genuinely good man that he can't imagine Trump is as bad

as he really is. Joe indicated he didn't think they had to bring in the lawyers, no Joe I think you have to. I love him, what I love about him is his genuine goodness, but when you are fighting something as evil as this administration and party you have to play hardball. This man is the most evil person I have ever seen. We can't bring a knife to a gunfight.

Damn I wanted this to go better than it is. I wanted to think we could try and mend this country, but now I just want to save it.

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I am beginning to think that Joe is such a genuinely good man that he can't imagine Trump is as bad (Original Post) redstatebluegirl Nov 2020 OP
He has a ton of lawyers frazzled Nov 2020 #1
Projecting stability is an act of power. zaj Nov 2020 #2
Thank you StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #14
+1000 Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #19
+1000 Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #20
+1000. Especially that last. Hortensis Nov 2020 #28
He knows he's rotten to the core. BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author exboyfil Nov 2020 #4
So far the GOP losers are well losing without muss and fuss...Biden has lawyers who will Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #5
Joe's steady hand and demeanor are deliberate. He's got his lawyers to do the rough stuff Siwsan Nov 2020 #6
Even if that were the case awesomerwb1 Nov 2020 #7
Joe has experienced far more than most. He felt the great turmoils and political tectonic empedocles Nov 2020 #10
True awesomerwb1 Nov 2020 #21
Biden is very smart. And he's probably getting advice from mental health professionals Mike 03 Nov 2020 #8
This. Only two people in Washington seem to know how to handle Trump. marylandblue Nov 2020 #23
Biden is fine, he knows full well what he is dealing with... Spazito Nov 2020 #9
Of course he doesn't really think tRump is an orange piece of shit BECAUSE Joe IS a kennedy Nov 2020 #11
Joe knows exactly who Trump is and how bad he is but I imagine he's hearing things octoberlib Nov 2020 #12
Jow knows what he's dealing with XanaDUer2 Nov 2020 #13
Inversely trump is such a lying cheating POS he thinks everyone else is captain queeg Nov 2020 #15
Why do you assume the president-elect is naive and doesn't understand people as well as you do? StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #16
Yes, thank you! GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #18
Exactly! StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #22
I think many people underestimated just how damaged Trump is. Earthshine2 Nov 2020 #17
Not to fear. Several times I've heard him say that one of the things he's learned... LAS14 Nov 2020 #24
He will do what he can to appeal to our better angels.. Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #25
Yesterday Frank Figluzzi said Joe is handling it perfectly for phase 1 of a "barricaded subject" ... Hekate Nov 2020 #26
I think it's clear that Obama thought he could build bridges and consensus with wiggs Nov 2020 #27
Red, I would dearly love to hear Biden and Obama talking Hortensis Nov 2020 #29

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. He has a ton of lawyers
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:54 PM
Nov 2020

And I’m still getting emails to donate to the Biden legal fund. If he doesn’t think they need to bring in a slew of them right now, it’s because the Trump legal challenges are entirely specious, and that his status a President-elect is secure

What on earth makes you think Biden doesn’t understand how corrupt and malignant Trump is?

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
2. Projecting stability is an act of power.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:54 PM
Nov 2020

Freaking out is an act of weakness. There is a balance.

He has a pile of attorneys.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. Thank you
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:21 PM
Nov 2020

I don't know why people assume that someone who got as far in politics and life as Biden has are gullible or blind or doesn't know as much as we do ...

Response to redstatebluegirl (Original post)

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
5. So far the GOP losers are well losing without muss and fuss...Biden has lawyers who will
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:57 PM
Nov 2020

step in if and when it is necessary.

Siwsan

(26,262 posts)
6. Joe's steady hand and demeanor are deliberate. He's got his lawyers to do the rough stuff
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 04:59 PM
Nov 2020

I trust Joe. This isn't his first rodeo.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
10. Joe has experienced far more than most. He felt the great turmoils and political tectonic
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:06 PM
Nov 2020

shifts of the 1960's. The treason and dangerous manipulations of the nixon crowd. What reaganites could get away with.

Like the Speaker, they are not new to these games.

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
21. True
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:53 PM
Nov 2020

But trumpers are all of the above on steroids+crack+adderall. Trumpers are a different kind of incompetent, corrupt traitors.

But both Joe and Kamala know.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
8. Biden is very smart. And he's probably getting advice from mental health professionals
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:00 PM
Nov 2020

on how to handle trump. Mike Bloomberg used psychiatrists to help him deal with Trump and I'm sure Joe is doing something along the same lines.

Yesterday, Frank Figliuzzi said Biden was handling everything perfectly, the way an experienced FBI agent would handle an irrational barricaded subject.

IMO he is exuding the calm and power that is most appropriate for this situation. He has set his course and that course makes Trump irrelevant, which will make Trump angrier than direct confrontation, which is futile.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
23. This. Only two people in Washington seem to know how to handle Trump.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:11 PM
Nov 2020

Pelosi and Biden. Pretty sure they both have mental health professionals on speed dial.

In Biden's case, he is acting like Trump doesn't exist. Nothing is more debilitating to a narcissist than that.

Spazito

(50,338 posts)
9. Biden is fine, he knows full well what he is dealing with...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:02 PM
Nov 2020

he stays above the fray while others deal with the detritus of the trump admin and it's enablers. Staying above the fray allows him to begin the mending of the country which he knows will take time and commitment.

a kennedy

(29,658 posts)
11. Of course he doesn't really think tRump is an orange piece of shit BECAUSE Joe IS
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:11 PM
Nov 2020

decent AND a human being. Joe, I’m sure has NEVER meet anyone so infantile in his whole public service life.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
12. Joe knows exactly who Trump is and how bad he is but I imagine he's hearing things
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:13 PM
Nov 2020

from his Republican Senate buddies and maybe from people inside the administration to indicate he doesn't need to play hardball yet.

captain queeg

(10,196 posts)
15. Inversely trump is such a lying cheating POS he thinks everyone else is
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:21 PM
Nov 2020

Since that’s the way he’s functioned his entire life.

GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
18. Yes, thank you!
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:27 PM
Nov 2020

I wish people would fucking stop with this shit. Biden has been in government for nearly FIVE DECADES. He knows these people. He knows full well what they are like. He has an army of lawyers that were hired months ago. FFS.

Earthshine2

(4,007 posts)
17. I think many people underestimated just how damaged Trump is.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 05:25 PM
Nov 2020

He was led to be this way by his father. So much nasty, competitive behavior reinforced at a young age.

The best word I have heard to describe him is "solipsistic." It's a mental disorder and belief system where one's own self is the only reality.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
24. Not to fear. Several times I've heard him say that one of the things he's learned...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:12 PM
Nov 2020

... is that evil can't be eliminated. It hides and then reappears.

Happy Hoosier

(7,308 posts)
25. He will do what he can to appeal to our better angels..
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:27 PM
Nov 2020

But you can be sure he is prepared to go to the mattresses .

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
26. Yesterday Frank Figluzzi said Joe is handling it perfectly for phase 1 of a "barricaded subject" ...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 06:38 PM
Nov 2020

Said it looked like Joe was getting extremely good advice.

wiggs

(7,813 posts)
27. I think it's clear that Obama thought he could build bridges and consensus with
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:02 PM
Nov 2020

the GOP but was surprised and disappointed they weren't interested.

Seeing it first hand, hopefully Joe learned the lesson that most of us have by now.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Red, I would dearly love to hear Biden and Obama talking
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:32 PM
Nov 2020

about the most viciously dirty and dishonorable tricks the Republicans have tried to pull on them over the years, but we never will. Their self discipline, professionalism, and commitment to serving the nation will not allow it.

You worry unnecessarily. When Biden smiles with calm certainty and says "they will" (Republican senators admit he won), it's the simple truth. They will need what only President Biden can give them. If he chooses.

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