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Jeffrey Toobin fired (Original Post) melman Nov 2020 OP
Look like the magazine owner decided to be a dick about it... regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #1
What a jerk off! (n/t) PJMcK Nov 2020 #2
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Nov 2020 #5
You know what rhymes with sick? Renew Deal Nov 2020 #35
Who turns on a computer, links into a link up malaise Nov 2020 #38
Well, that's no surprise. CNN will probably be next. octoberlib Nov 2020 #3
And having more me time. 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #4
K&R for "exposure" Blue Owl Nov 2020 #6
... Nevilledog Nov 2020 #7
All due to a stroke of bad luck! klook Nov 2020 #8
Everybody has freaking cameras in their home offices now streaming data to company servers Shermann Nov 2020 #9
"Poor guy"...seriously? cwydro Nov 2020 #14
I assume he was working from home Shermann Nov 2020 #18
He was on the clock with his coworkers. cwydro Nov 2020 #22
OK you convinced me Shermann Nov 2020 #25
Believe me, having a guy show you his dick, whether he's pulling on it or not is disgusting. cwydro Nov 2020 #28
TOTALLY Agree, so repulsive and disgusting Raine Nov 2020 #40
He was working. There was a zoom meeting in progress. MrsCoffee Nov 2020 #23
Yeah he might have been on a short call doing most of the talking Shermann Nov 2020 #27
You are really pushing this "cancel culture" nonsense mcar Nov 2020 #31
I'm doing more asking than asserting Shermann Nov 2020 #36
Apparently The New Yorker does mcar Nov 2020 #37
The New Yorker held out for 23 days before unloading Shermann Nov 2020 #39
Oh boy! mcar Nov 2020 #41
Well, no need to understand or agree to take a lesson Hortensis Nov 2020 #43
He doesn't get it. cwydro Nov 2020 #29
His staff should be probed Renew Deal Nov 2020 #34
+100, and Hortensis Nov 2020 #42
"as a Staff Writer" - and in the end the staff did him in. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2020 #10
He can now complete his transition to full-time cam modeling? Brainfodder Nov 2020 #11
He was "out"...so now he's OUT! Roland99 Nov 2020 #12
I think... Mike Nelson Nov 2020 #13
The almighty penis brings down yet another. Funtatlaguy Nov 2020 #15
That took a while. Straw Man Nov 2020 #16
"I look forward to staying in touch with myself." VOX Nov 2020 #17
I was quite a fan. underpants Nov 2020 #19
Unfair! Beakybird Nov 2020 #20
Maybe a future porn star. honest.abe Nov 2020 #21
He already has his porn name Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #24
He had a kink for politics. joshcryer Nov 2020 #26
Patriarchy. Boys will be boys "logic" irisblue Nov 2020 #32
Him and Weiner, tho, generally... joshcryer Nov 2020 #47
It seems the breaking point is that he was on the call exboyfil Nov 2020 #30
His employer may just want someone with better judgement. Sneederbunk Nov 2020 #33
Likely, and to uphold a standard everyone must meet. nt Hortensis Nov 2020 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author George II Nov 2020 #45
"It's not that kind of a Staff Meeting? Aw, damn." Iggo Nov 2020 #46

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
9. Everybody has freaking cameras in their home offices now streaming data to company servers
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:09 PM
Nov 2020

Does this poor guy really have to fall on his sword because it inadvertently caught a glimpse of his innocent private life?

This was funny the first day maybe.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
14. "Poor guy"...seriously?
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:14 PM
Nov 2020

He was AT WORK. He deserved to be fired.

But major props for the phrase “fall on his sword!”

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. He was on the clock with his coworkers.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:25 PM
Nov 2020

If you think there’s anything ok about this, that tells me two things - 1) you’re a male, and 2) you need to learn a bit more about sexual harassment.

How difficult is it to keep it in your pants until the work call is over?

Good for the New Yorker. I hope CNN follows suit.

If this was Tucker Carlson, those defending him here would be turning cartwheels calling for termination. I despise hypocrisy.

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
25. OK you convinced me
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:40 PM
Nov 2020

I was pondering the definition of harassment, which is "aggressive pressure or intimidation". Is that the very best characterization here? Is that what he was going for?

Eh, I don't know, too much like work. Cancel him!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
28. Believe me, having a guy show you his dick, whether he's pulling on it or not is disgusting.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:57 PM
Nov 2020

I’d bet just about every woman on DU has experienced this. Every woman I know has. It’s sickening, disgusting, gross, and perverted as hell.

The first time it happened to me, I was with 3 other female playmates in a park near our house. We were all about 8 to 10 years of age.

Then it happened while I was running on a trail at 15.

Once I saw a guy do it in a freaking grocery store parking lot as I was walking to my car. Broad daylight.

But I gotta say, NEVER at work.

You simply have no clue. Buh bye.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
40. TOTALLY Agree, so repulsive and disgusting
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:36 PM
Nov 2020

I had it happen to when I was in a parking lot, guy came up tapped on the window then waved it in front of me! I managed to stay calm and turned the other way then got out of the area as fast as I could.

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
23. He was working. There was a zoom meeting in progress.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:25 PM
Nov 2020

He was wanking while connected to a work call.

No feeling sorry for him at all. If I'm on that call, I'm suing him for sexual harassment.

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
27. Yeah he might have been on a short call doing most of the talking
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:56 PM
Nov 2020

....with his PANTS DOWN at the time. That's a totally greasy thing to do. F'n bullshit.

OR it may have been one of those two-hour conference calls with fifty people where you are muted the whole time. On those, you are basically a ghost and it's like listening to the radio. Some days you might have a couple of those to sit through. You could even...*gasp*...momentarily forget you are on one when WORKING FROM HOME.

BUT it could have been the first situation. Yeah, it was probably the first. Cancel him!

mcar

(42,309 posts)
31. You are really pushing this "cancel culture" nonsense
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:02 PM
Nov 2020

I always liked Toobin on CNN - he was knowledgeable and funny.

But, he royally fcked up - on camera. It makes no difference if it was a short Zoom or a long Zoom meeting. None whatsoever.

Are you really suggesting that men are such slaves to their dicks that he just had to whip it out during a 2 hour meeting? Really?

That's pretty insulting to the males of the species.

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
36. I'm doing more asking than asserting
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:16 PM
Nov 2020

The only point I'd offer is there seems to be a wide range of possibilities here, from pretty bad to pretty tame. DU doesn't know jack shit about it, and appear to suffer from a failure of imagination here (other than the imaginative plays on words).

Mike Nelson

(9,954 posts)
13. I think...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:13 PM
Nov 2020

... that's a pretty classy announcement. I've joked about Toobin, but will restrain myself & enjoy the other comments.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
17. "I look forward to staying in touch with myself."
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:19 PM
Nov 2020

What an unspectacular career crash and burn (ouch!).

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
20. Unfair!
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:21 PM
Nov 2020

I heard that someone at the meeting said, "Speak now, or forever hold your peace," and Jeffrey thought they said, "piece."

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
26. He had a kink for politics.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 07:43 PM
Nov 2020

Stupid, stupid, move tho. Why are so many well spoken dudes like him pervs?

irisblue

(32,973 posts)
32. Patriarchy. Boys will be boys "logic"
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:03 PM
Nov 2020

Their belief and expectations that everyone will admire their penis.

Among many others

I'm hoping this a rhetorical question.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
47. Him and Weiner, tho, generally...
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:12 PM
Nov 2020

...aren't for sexist crap, at least ideologically (like they'd argue for equal pay, pro-choice, stuff like that). But somehow they turn out to be huge pervs.

I mean, really, what kind of perv could you be to whip it out in the middle of a zoom call. I mean I can say I am on the higher end of libido but that is crazy to me. Incomprehensible.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
30. It seems the breaking point is that he was on the call
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:01 PM
Nov 2020

Let's say he was on the toilet during the call. Is that fireable as well (assume either the bathroom toilet can be seen from the webcam or he is using a tablet)?

Could he keep his job if he thought the call was over, and he didn't realize the camera was still on?

How about if was in a stall at work masturbating and the stall door came open so a coworker could see him (say its a unisex bathroom for example)?

I actually exercise during some of my business meetings. I am on the clock, but not doing multitasking with something that isn't work.

My wife walked into my home office in underwear. The camera was not on, but I sent her out of the office pretty quickly.


My daughter actually walked in on a doctor doing this in one of the empty patient rooms. She would have just left and not reported it. Unfortunately for the doctor she had a patient with her. Amazingly he kept his job.

I got to say the intent to do this in front of someone has to enter into any discussion of dismissal.

Response to melman (Original post)

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