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I doubt Chump will be healthy enough, or even alive, to run in 2024. (Original Post) MoonRiver Nov 2020 OP
Agreed. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #1
He's not fit *now* Roy Rolling Nov 2020 #45
I agree Deuxcents Nov 2020 #2
Gawd I hope you're right about that. BComplex Nov 2020 #3
He may not survive until 2024 but I full expect him to announce he is running (and soon). Statistical Nov 2020 #4
I totally agree. MoonRiver Nov 2020 #6
Definitely. Also, to save face. Mike 03 Nov 2020 #7
Gotta keep the cash and adulation coming in, but i agree he's unlikely to be fit enough (which deurbano Nov 2020 #38
He's going to push Ivanka forward.... after she has another visit to the plastic surgeon....... usaf-vet Nov 2020 #54
He's deteriorated remarkably since 2016 greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #5
Can he run from prison? stopbush Nov 2020 #8
Yes, he can Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #10
But can he vote for himself? MoonRiver Nov 2020 #15
Oh, that was my first reaction as well PatSeg Nov 2020 #9
Best guess, all spot on. Just hope he manages to finish off the GOP. Hortensis Nov 2020 #21
That is my hope as well PatSeg Nov 2020 #22
+100. An inescapable imperative for most now is those two GA senate races. Hortensis Nov 2020 #24
Ahh, the old fear mongering ploy. BarbD Nov 2020 #39
It would seem PatSeg Nov 2020 #50
THIS malaise Nov 2020 #11
That's my thought. marble falls Nov 2020 #12
Unless they change the law, felons can't run for President. NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #13
Alive or dead, he will run. The pathological attention whore will keep himself on life support just beastie boy Nov 2020 #14
I forsee a massive coronary in his near future. Initech Nov 2020 #16
Yes. He has a clinical appearance diagnosis of LLS PCIntern Nov 2020 #18
*Or* to scarfe up $100M for a book deal - he has no insight, nobody wants to know about him!1 UTUSN Nov 2020 #17
I tend to agree with this. GoCubsGo Nov 2020 #19
The SDNY will ruin his reputation Dirty Socialist Nov 2020 #20
Every loser, whether politics or sports says they are coming back. He won't. Hoyt Nov 2020 #23
Yes, I think you are correct. The question for me is: What "Always Trumper' Repuke NCjack Nov 2020 #40
Good point about 2022. Like the image -- trump "struggling with dementia and his ass screwed Hoyt Nov 2020 #49
He should flee the country and run while in exile like a third world dictator. nt IronLionZion Nov 2020 #25
Same here. He wants to be a MAGAT MARTYR ... Auggie Nov 2020 #26
Once he fleas the country, he can't run in 2024 RainCaster Nov 2020 #35
The talk about running in 2024 is malarkey (my new word) Auggie Nov 2020 #44
Knock on wood jcgoldie Nov 2020 #27
I think the same. Dios Mio Nov 2020 #28
Any cardio events won't be workouts bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #29
Agreed 100% pandr32 Nov 2020 #30
The motherfuckers of the world live forever. shrike3 Nov 2020 #31
We have an idea how it's going to end............ MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #32
In four years, three actually to the real start of the PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #33
It will be hard to campaign from prison in any case. NNadir Nov 2020 #34
My thought exactly wcollar Nov 2020 #36
Honestly, do you really think his loyalists would care if a dead and stuffed..... capechacon Nov 2020 #37
He's not going to have the White House physician either. njhoneybadger Nov 2020 #41
He is impotent and on the edge of irrelevancy. BarbD Nov 2020 #42
or paroled (n/t) BillyBobBrilliant Nov 2020 #43
Covid newdayneeded Nov 2020 #46
Dead Trump for president 2024! Harker Nov 2020 #47
He's Hitler now, in his bunker moving non existent army divisions about. Ligyron Nov 2020 #48
Sadly, 70+ million Americans voted for him. So he IS relevant... Beartracks Nov 2020 #51
Stroke out from all the drugs and junk food is my bet. Pepsidog Nov 2020 #52
THE GOOD NEWS WiseElder Nov 2020 #53
well don't forget he can soak money out of people too dawn5651 Nov 2020 #55
He is addicted to campaigning, especially his pep rallies Warpy Nov 2020 #56
He may declare Trumpism as a religion so he doesn't have Politicub Nov 2020 #57
Dick Cheney is still alive. maxsolomon Nov 2020 #58
Lol- or eligible - nt BrightKnight Nov 2020 #59

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. Agreed.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:42 AM
Nov 2020

Just watched this interview with Mary Trump. In addition to his physical woes, mental illness and cognitive decline, she points out that his fragile ego will never allow him to put himself in a position of losing ever again. She believes her uncle is experiencing humiliation, helplessness and rage unlike anything he's ever had to face before, and there's no one to rescue him, and that he'll never want to even risk experiencing these feelings again.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214544224

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
4. He may not survive until 2024 but I full expect him to announce he is running (and soon).
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:42 AM
Nov 2020

The second he officially begins his 2024 candidacy the grift train can restart full speed ahead. The MAGAs are the stupidest marks that Trump has ever encountered in 60 years of being a conman. He isn't going to give that up.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
38. Gotta keep the cash and adulation coming in, but i agree he's unlikely to be fit enough (which
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:10 PM
Nov 2020

could include lack of life!) to actually participate in the 2024 election. (Of course, he wasn't fit enough in 2016 0r 2020, either...) He never stopped running as *president, so can't see him stopping now.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
54. He's going to push Ivanka forward.... after she has another visit to the plastic surgeon.......
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:37 PM
Nov 2020

..... lifting, tucking, and botox injection. Got to give those repug males a reason to vote for another Trump. Jr and Eric lack that "flair".

Of course, if she wasn't such an airhead and a Trump. That might help to get her to a 27% approval rate.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
10. Yes, he can
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:58 AM
Nov 2020

might be a little tough on the whole large rally thing, but he can certainly run from a jail cell.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
9. Oh, that was my first reaction as well
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 10:46 AM
Nov 2020

It is just another ruse that he will use to hold onto his base, feed his ego, and of course make money.

Meanwhile, it is all downhill for Trump from this point on.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
22. That is my hope as well
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:46 AM
Nov 2020

I was really surprised that once Joe won, republicans in congress still stood by him. The gaslighting was really far more intense and thorough than I'd realized. Hard to believe how weak and easily intimidated these people are. Apparently there is no principle worth fighting for, as they put their political careers above morality and the country they claim to love.

I guess their devotion goes only as far as wearing a flag pin, reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, and paying lip service to our soldiers. Of course they'll always stand during the national anthem, but they won't stand up to a corrupt tyrant as he destroys the democracy the serve. It is truly disgraceful. History will not remember them well.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. +100. An inescapable imperative for most now is those two GA senate races.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:28 PM
Nov 2020

Their base likely would remember their "betraying" the party now, whereas most of their usual betrayals could be painted over SOP before the next election.

But, those studying the increasing authoritarianism of the Republican Party say that when it "fell off the cliff" with Trump, a lot of Republicans officeholders jumped off with it. We're seeing them fully embracing fascistic tactics for obtaining power, including demonization without limits.



Reportedly, a 2020 report from over 600 political scientists will show that the Republican Party now compares to Viktor Orban's in Hungary. And almost all of them have been reelected by conservative voters who've also leaped or been swept over that cliff.

Btw, regarding the unusually clean (!) 2020 elections, my favorite guess is that the Republicans sabotaged the election theft they depend on to win by causing both increased scrutiny by national security agencies and increased attention by the citizenry.

And now the rage of our wannabe-full-on-fascists at losing!

BarbD

(1,192 posts)
39. Ahh, the old fear mongering ploy.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:10 PM
Nov 2020

I'm placing my hope in Stacey Abrams and the incredible organizing she has done in Georgia. We can win these two senate seats. We certainly have the best candidates.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
50. It would seem
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

that once they go too far, there is no path back. They know they are stuck there and are probably regretting not keeping a low profile throughout the Trump administration. The quiet ones have a better chance of surviving. Even though they were too cowardly to speak up, at least they didn't draw attention to themselves.

It is kind of like getting involved with the mob. You don't get a little bit involved and then change your mind and say, "Oh this isn't for me". Either you're in or you're out, there is no middle ground. Once the taint is on you, it never washes off.

Good point about republicans sabotaging their own predictable election theft. Oops!

beastie boy

(9,323 posts)
14. Alive or dead, he will run. The pathological attention whore will keep himself on life support just
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:05 AM
Nov 2020

to see himself in the news headlines one more time.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
16. I forsee a massive coronary in his near future.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:11 AM
Nov 2020

Think he's mad now? He's a powder keg waiting to go off, and when that happens, it's not going to be pretty!

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
19. I tend to agree with this.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:18 AM
Nov 2020

The same goes for his reality TV show and TV network, and whatever else they're claiming he has planned. If he's not dead, he'll likely be incapacitated by another stroke, or by heart disease, or both. All the drugs they have been pumping him with are not going to mitigate his shitty lifestyle, or all the stress he is undoubtedly under. Or, the aftereffects of his COVID-19 infection, along with the side-effects from all of those drugs, and all the ones he's taking on his own.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
40. Yes, I think you are correct. The question for me is: What "Always Trumper' Repuke
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:11 PM
Nov 2020

thinks he/she can gain leadership of the Maggots? With DJT in 2023-24 struggling with dementia and his ass screwed to a wheelchair, I can see 50 Repukes trying to be either the candidate or the kingmaker. There maybe some violent showdowns a la OK corral. I don't see them as a threat in 2024. The real threat is in 2022 to the control of both house of congress.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
49. Good point about 2022. Like the image -- trump "struggling with dementia and his ass screwed
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:22 PM
Nov 2020

to a wheelchair."

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
26. Same here. He wants to be a MAGAT MARTYR ...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:42 PM
Nov 2020

and try to rebuild his brand. Hard to do from prison unless he flees the country.

RainCaster

(10,869 posts)
35. Once he fleas the country, he can't run in 2024
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:01 PM
Nov 2020

Yeah, I spelled it wrong on purpose.
BTW, DFT can't be a good martyr this side of the grave. He needs to revise his use of the term.

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
44. The talk about running in 2024 is malarkey (my new word)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:17 PM
Nov 2020

Trump has switched to survival mode -- his brand, what wealth is left, and his personal freedom.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,852 posts)
33. In four years, three actually to the real start of the
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:59 PM
Nov 2020

2024 campaign system, he will have become totally irrelevant and it's my opinion that the GOP will simply close ranks against him.

 

capechacon

(91 posts)
37. Honestly, do you really think his loyalists would care if a dead and stuffed.....
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:08 PM
Nov 2020

....Trump ran for president in 2024? They'd STILL vote for the corpse.

Interestingly, the corpse might be a much better candidate -- it would lie far less than if a live Trump were to run.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
41. He's not going to have the White House physician either.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:14 PM
Nov 2020

The White House physician has an office inside the White House. The location of his or her medical unit plays an important role in keeping the President of the United States healthy. He or she also oversees a staff which is typically composed of five military physicians, five physician assistants, five nurses, three paramedics, three administrators and one IT Manager. The White House Physician is metaphorically the "shadow of the President" because he or she is always close at hand whether the President is at the White House, overseas, on the campaign trail, or aboard presidential plane Air Force One. Wikipedia

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
46. Covid
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:19 PM
Nov 2020

Some here are saying he might not have had Covid, he was just trying to get the sympathy vote. if that's the case, maybe he'll be hit by the real Covid deal.

Ligyron

(7,629 posts)
48. He's Hitler now, in his bunker moving non existent army divisions about.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:21 PM
Nov 2020

As the reality of his situation slowly begins to dawn on him, firing public servants deemed too honest to have been sufficiently loyal and doing his best to destroy the government on his way out is his equivalent of Hitler's orders to turn the guns on the German people who somehow allowed his downfall.

It's just unfortunate that knowing the end is near, Trump doesn't possess Hitler's courage.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
51. Sadly, 70+ million Americans voted for him. So he IS relevant...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:24 PM
Nov 2020

... especially considering that so many elected Republicans, too, are just absolutely enthralled with the opportunity to cover for him, kiss his ass, and continue his work.

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WiseElder

(132 posts)
53. THE GOOD NEWS
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:34 PM
Nov 2020

Is that there is nothing in the Constitution prohibiting Trump from running from his jail cell.

Warpy

(111,254 posts)
56. He is addicted to campaigning, especially his pep rallies
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:41 PM
Nov 2020

He needs them like sensible people need oxygen. It's why he started having them the week after he was sworn in 4 years ago. He had little interest in doing the actual job. He loved campaigning for it.

He'll be much the same 4 years from now, a little more stooped and a lot angrier, but much the same.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
57. He may declare Trumpism as a religion so he doesn't have
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:43 PM
Nov 2020

to pay taxes on the money that rubes will pay to hear him speak.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
58. Dick Cheney is still alive.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 01:46 PM
Nov 2020

Rupert Murdoch is still alive.

Don Young is still alive.

The bad sleep well.

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