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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBernie is now openly campaigning for Sec of Labor on Chris Cuomo's show
He claims that the GOP Governor promised to appoint a Democrat in his place. Ummm... Is Bernie serious? Republicans have zero shame. He must have missed the Supreme Court flip-flopping.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)just....NO
Cha
(297,180 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 19, 2020, 12:55 PM - Edit history (1)
...after working their asses off to win the Georgia Senate seats and donating a mint to help get the Senate majority, only to lose it because Bernie wants a new job.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)We all know what GOP promises are worth.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Nope Sanders stays where he is and I pray he stays healthy, we need every senate seat.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Unless you mean Moscow Mitch who will oppose the cabinet...because he is a traitor who should be in jail.
But what is this now?
OH, if he leaves the Senate...I see
NO Bernie, the republican wont appoint a Democrat, not in TWO Million years.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Gothmog
(145,154 posts)helpisontheway
(5,007 posts)We cannot afford to lose this senate seat
stillcool
(32,626 posts)seems to be all that he's about. Something in the air in D.C., that makes ego's grow to massive dimensions?
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)I waited to reply because I knew what what was coming and sure enough, people didn't disappoint.
Unity eh?
helpisontheway
(5,007 posts)Sit down and discuss it with Biden. No..he wants to put pressure on Biden to pick him. Pick me or divide the party..🙄
Cha
(297,180 posts)to PE Biden instead of the "media"?
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(4,921 posts)What position do you hold on the Biden transition team?
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)and still has, divisions. Happily we see many things the same though.
Cha
(297,180 posts)possibly PE Biden has someone else in mind for his Labor Sec.
xmas74
(29,674 posts)He's being pretty damn naive if he thinks a GOP governor will appoint someone in his stead who will canvass with Dems.
I would say this about anyone in this case except maybe Liz Warren. Supposedly the state legislature can either choose or override the governor's appointment. GOP gov but Dem leg.
Someone here can better explain it.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not counting this cake Vermont deal he scored years ago.
luv2fly
(2,475 posts)It's a wealth of information. He might be on LinkedIn but I can't tell ya since I am not.
Cheers.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)We can't lose a Senator. The governor said he would appoint an independent who could caucus with any of the parties ...so sorry no. Also, I want someone more in tune with unions.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)WAY too much ego. We need team players, not people who care more about their positions than what is good for the country. And trying to pressure the Biden TEAM by going public? Double whammy. Buh-bye. Next
Cha
(297,180 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)Aloha, Me..
Eyes tired tonight...
Mahalo...
Cha
(297,180 posts)well how that goes. I asked BRDS to read something for me last night bc "my eyes were too tired".
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Joe knows how important it is to have a majority in the Senate.
Joe also knows that Bernie's agenda is NOT the Biden agenda. Joe needs cabinet members who will support and promote the things that the Biden Administration will focus on... rather than using a cabinet position as a platform to do-one's-own-thing in opposition to Biden.
Additionally (according to Jane Sanders) they have a frosty relationship with Biden. Things like that do not make for a good working relationship, nor an amicable social relationship. It's something that does not promote trust, bonding, honest and open discussion and exchange of ideas, etc. Joe probably wants cabinet members who respect him and who support his agenda and vision and plans.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)jrthin
(4,835 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)[Break]
Never gonna get it, never gonna get it
Never gonna get it, never gonna get it
Never gonna get it, never gonna get it
Never gonna get it (woo-woo-woo-woo)
Never gonna get it, never gonna get it
Never gonna get it, never gonna get it
Never gonna get it, never gonna get it
Never gonna get it, never get it
(You bet) BOP!
(You bet) BOP!
(You bet) BOP!
(You bet) BOP! 🎵
Vinca
(50,269 posts)their word on anything. I would be happy to see Peter Welch in Bernie's seat, but I worry Bernie in the Biden administration would steal the limelight and we don't need that right now. Keep Bernie in the Senate. Same with Warren.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 19, 2020, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)
Cabinet secretaries are high-level managers responsible for making huge bureaucracies carry out the policies of the president. Much of the job is administrative - lots (LOTS) of meetings, oversight, following White House marching orders, and inter-agency coordination. It's not a position for a maverick or that allows a person to drive their own ideas and policies.
I can't imagine why Bernie would even want a job that's clearly not in his wheelhouse. If he were to do it right, he'd be miserable. And if he didn't, he'd be a disaster and he'd be out.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)And then there's the matter that Joe Biden recognizes the value of having a cohesive cabinet that can also work together as a team and who trust and respect each other. Jane Sanders has already confirmed that they have a frosty (or testy) relationship with the Bidens. I get the feeling that they simply "tolerate" each other while doing their best to avoid conflict by avoiding each other. I have no reason to doubt Jane's own evaluation and characterization. I suspect that such a thing is fueled by resentment and bitterness that has manifested itself in a way that comes up just shy of open hostility.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Also, another big part of the job requires inter-agency coordination between the departments, orchestrated by the White House. I just can't see Bernie working in tandem with and often subordinate to other departments, especially on initiatives and activities that aren't his personal priorities.
And the cabinets aren't free agents - everything they do has to be approved by the White House.
White House staffer: "Mr. Secretary, the President is traveling to North Dakota to give a speech at the Business Leaders of America conference and would like you to travel with him. You have a schedule conflict because you were planning to give a speech in Miami that day? That's not a problem. We can arrange for someone else to stand in for you or help you reschedule. Please meet the President at Andrews at 7 am Thursday. You may bring one staffer. We'll need their DOB and SSN in the next two hours to clear them for the flight. Thank you, sir!"
White House staffer: "Hello, Mr. Secretary. This is mid-level White House staffer calling. We understand you're planning to give a speech on economic inequality tomorrow. I'm sorry, but the President is speaking on another issue and that will be our message of the day, so we will have to either change your speech or cancel it."
White House staffer: "Hello, Mr. Secretary. This is mid-level White House staffer calling. We understand you're planning to roll out a new initiative next week. That sounds great. But we're going to need to review it and approve before you do that. Would you please have one of your senior people come here tomorrow to brief us on the initiative? A powerpoint would be really helpful. Thank you, sir. Have an awesome day."
As I said, Bernie would be miserable.
Gothmog
(145,154 posts)betsuni
(25,475 posts)ecstatic
(32,695 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)has been lobbying for the job really hard and has the experience.
Cha
(297,180 posts)How has he been lobbying?
TY
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Labor unions are recommending him to Biden. I have no idea if a Majority R Senate will confirm him, though.
The UAW is pushing for President-elect Joe Biden to pick U.S. Rep. Andy Levin, a Bloomfield Township Democrat, as his U.S. Labor Department secretary, officials confirmed Thursday.
"After a survey of the board, the UAW International Union sent a letter earlier today to the Biden Transition Team recommending" Levin for the position, spokesman Brian Rothenberg told The Detroit News in an email.
Other details of the letter were not immediately available Thursday night.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/11/12/uaw-pushes-andy-levin-biden-labor-post/6273679002/
The Communication Workers of America this week endorsed Levin for the powerful cabinet post, and at least one top United Autoworkers Union official is urging Levin to pursue the position.
Levin, a Bloomfield Township Democrat, this week declined to disclose any conversations he's had with the Biden transition team but said its an honor even to be mentioned as a candidate.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/11/andy-levin-likely-contender-bidens-labor-secretary/6245438002/
Cha
(297,180 posts)TY, octoberlib
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Secretary of Labor? Oh boy.
Can someone clue me in to a real job hes ever held? Seriously.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)You know in past presidential elections, there's always speculation among pundits and "insiders" as to which individuals are being considered. And when those individuals are questioned, they're always humble. They express honor at the hint of being considered for a cabinet position... but then they always defer to President-Elect who's the one that makes that decision. Sometimes the rumored candidate will come right out and say that they think it's inappropriate to even speculate.
In my many (many) years, I have NEVER heard of any person actively LOBBYING for a cabinet position... and doing it in such a PUBLIC way. In my opinion it's a bit unseemly and unfitting. It's just not very dignified.
I would imagine that such things would be done privately and in-person... face to face, or by phone. Or through trusted and direct "back-channels" that are out of the public eye. The fact that this lobbying has been so public and so aggressive suggests to me that Biden has not opened-up any communication channels with Sanders... or maybe Biden is just politely ignoring him. Who knows?
It could be any one, any number, or none of those things. Time will tell. But my best guess is that things don't look good for Sanders being chosen to be on Biden's cabinet.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)His ambition is so naked. To word it like the kids do these days, hes so thirsty.
Not an attractive trait.
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)about fictional revolutions by poor people in one of his grand lake-front mansions.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I tend to think given a cabinet position, he'd do more harm than good, regardless of his positive intentions.