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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:21 PM Nov 2020

I heard on one of the CNN or MSNBC, the Michigan GOP is asking for a 13 day delay to recount Wayne.

the RNC head Ronna McDaniel and the head of the Michigan Republican party are asking in writing for a 13 day delay while Wayne County is recounted. They are asking the two GOP canvassers not to vote for certification...This would likely mean the vote would not be certified by 12/13;I have no idea if this can work or not...thoughts?

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I heard on one of the CNN or MSNBC, the Michigan GOP is asking for a 13 day delay to recount Wayne. (Original Post) Demsrule86 Nov 2020 OP
The defeated GOP Senate candidate asked for a recount & delay. I haven't heard what you report. hlthe2b Nov 2020 #1
I heard it on one of the morning shows. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #6
James lost by 97,000 votes. He's down 1.7 pts. A recount is ridiculous and will not be granted Roland99 Nov 2020 #41
Won't matter if remaining states are certified. Sneederbunk Nov 2020 #2
Certification is under attack in all remaining states. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #3
And being defeated in all remaining states. dware Nov 2020 #10
Monday is certification day for PA and MI. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #19
Yes they are, and so is AZ, dware Nov 2020 #20
That would make me so happy to see his attempted theft of democracy stopped cold before Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #35
Thank whatever entity is out there that the good people of America dware Nov 2020 #36
You have a great day too...stay safe. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #38
The court will order them to certify before the deadline. EOM marylandblue Nov 2020 #4
Good to know... Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #34
I really doubt it. Happy Hoosier Nov 2020 #5
Thank you. I wasn't sure what would happen. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #22
I suppose they can ask for whatever they want Rice4VP Nov 2020 #7
And if they do a statewide recount, they should have to pay for it. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #8
Yup Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #11
It is about delaying certifcation. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #33
Yeah...I wonder if the GOP Party person Michigan can face charges. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #23
As is typical of Repugs, they want to make up the rules as they go Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #9
It's already been dealt with, dware Nov 2020 #12
I know on paper this is how it should play out. And I have full confidence that Big Gret won't blink Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #16
I cannot, nor do I want to, dware Nov 2020 #17
Yeah...the media was frothing at the mouth about Hillary's 'delay' in conceding. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #31
I agree...I think w should start referring to them as the dictator party...they want to do away with Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #42
I read the canvasser cannot "uncertified" what she already certified. Yours is not the first post LizBeth Nov 2020 #13
No this has to do with the state certification which will happen on Monday. These numbers will Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #24
Thanks. Since this post I came across a number of others, lol including sec of state video that LizBeth Nov 2020 #37
I will have to watch that. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #43
Ya. Yours was first cup, hers was third cup of coffee. ;) LizBeth Nov 2020 #47
They'll just keep it up, keep it up, bug. bug, buggin.... occupant Nov 2020 #14
If all goes well, PA and MI will be certified on Monday. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #25
Biden's margin of victory in Wayne Co. is similar to Hillary's in 2016. subterranean Nov 2020 #15
It is all about the delay and stopping the electoral college. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #27
So Windy City Charlie Nov 2020 #18
Which, like everything else Pissolini touches, dware Nov 2020 #21
Yup, scumbags and thank God incompetent scumbags. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #30
That is it exactly...don't think it can succeed but it worries me. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #28
Yes Windy City Charlie Nov 2020 #40
And we need to certify those votes ASAP... Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #44
They can ask for anything they want StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #26
I hope the two GOP on the state canvassing board just certify and obey the law. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #29
The main point of these seemingly idiotic moves appears to be to support Pissolini's bogus claims Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #32
trump has not stopped his efforts to steal Michigan's electoral votes Gothmog Nov 2020 #39
That is how I feel...this is so ridiculous. I can't believe a president could attempt a coup with Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #45
They have already had 18 days since election. kentuck Nov 2020 #46
This is all about delaying certificatation to put it in the house and steal the election. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #48

dware

(12,369 posts)
10. And being defeated in all remaining states.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:56 PM
Nov 2020

Not to fear, the certification of the remaining states will go forward as required by the laws of those states and PE Joe Biden will be awarded 306 electoral votes, which, along with the popular vote, is a landslide.

dware

(12,369 posts)
20. Yes they are, and so is AZ,
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:58 PM
Nov 2020

and NV is this Tues. I believe.

Stick a fork in Pissolini, he's done.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
35. That would make me so happy to see his attempted theft of democracy stopped cold before
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:17 PM
Nov 2020

Thanksgiving.

dware

(12,369 posts)
36. Thank whatever entity is out there that the good people of America
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:21 PM
Nov 2020

aren't letting him get away with this naked attempt at stealing the election.

Gotta go, the open road, plus WalMart, are calling for their delivery.

Have a great Saturday and keep your spirits up, this national and international disgrace of a man is almost over.

Happy Hoosier

(7,296 posts)
5. I really doubt it.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:44 PM
Nov 2020

I have been keeping up with the legal arguments and simply put, the State Canvassing Board has no authority to do anything like this. Neither does the legislature. I guarantee that if the board deadlocks, the SOS will fill an emergency request to the courts to issue a Writ of Mandamus instructing the board to certify the results as required by law.

This is what I was talking about yesterday (and getting tut-tutted about it). The GOP will try this, but the law is NOT on their side.

Rice4VP

(1,235 posts)
7. I suppose they can ask for whatever they want
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:51 PM
Nov 2020

They should be called out for singling out that county. Recount the whole state or nothing

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
8. And if they do a statewide recount, they should have to pay for it.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:54 PM
Nov 2020

They should have to pay for an expedited recount, multiple shifts working around the clock.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
11. Yup
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:59 PM
Nov 2020

"We are happy to do a recount for you!" Put your money on the table, cash only, no personal or GOP party checks.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
9. As is typical of Repugs, they want to make up the rules as they go
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:55 PM
Nov 2020

This needs to be dealt with swiftly and severely. We should show zero tolerance for this type of obstruction.

I think the mid-term elections should be about Republicans hating our democratic process. The hate that the will of the voters has to be honored.

Each time they refer to the Democratic party as socialist we should immediately counter with the fact that they are fascist authoritarianists.

dware

(12,369 posts)
12. It's already been dealt with,
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:01 PM
Nov 2020

there won't be any delay.
They can ask for whatever the fuck they want, the DEM SoS will deep six their requests and on Mon., the vote will be certified by the state canvassing board, and if that doesn't happen, two things will happen, either the court will require them to certify, or the court will do it, or, Gov. Whitmer can remove those that refuse to do their mandatory duty and appoint those that will.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
16. I know on paper this is how it should play out. And I have full confidence that Big Gret won't blink
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:30 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:37 PM - Edit history (1)

But I want this crammed down their throats. I remember how quickly Republicans wanted to shut down any talks of recounts or irregularities in 2016.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
42. I agree...I think w should start referring to them as the dictator party...they want to do away with
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:42 PM
Nov 2020

the Republic.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
13. I read the canvasser cannot "uncertified" what she already certified. Yours is not the first post
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:01 PM
Nov 2020

on this but right after it happened sec of state said person signed it it was done and had been certified.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
24. No this has to do with the state certification which will happen on Monday. These numbers will
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:10 PM
Nov 2020

be sent to Congress, I think on December 13th...and there is a state canvassing board with that will certify the state...there two Democrats and two Republicans on this board. That is who this letter targets.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
37. Thanks. Since this post I came across a number of others, lol including sec of state video that
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:41 PM
Nov 2020

was excellent.

 

occupant

(166 posts)
14. They'll just keep it up, keep it up, bug. bug, buggin....
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:02 PM
Nov 2020

Thanx Happy Hoosier for the info that, it let me exhale. This has been such a harrowing experience! Demsrule86, this is very interesting info after reading about the "wine and dine" bash after the meeting. I wonder if he even met them? Maybe just sent a sucking lackey to suss the Michigan Militia out...

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
15. Biden's margin of victory in Wayne Co. is similar to Hillary's in 2016.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:05 PM
Nov 2020

Biden won Wayne County by 68.3%-30.3%.

In 2016, Hillary Clinton won 66.4%-29.3% (Gary Johnson took 2.4%).

Also, Biden's 68.3% share of the vote this year is considerably lower than Obama's 73.1% in 2012.

There's nothing to see here.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
18. So
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:43 PM
Nov 2020

So the strategy they seem to be going with now is run out the clock on certifications so that the electors don't have to abide.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
40. Yes
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:01 PM
Nov 2020

It's no different with these "investigations of fraud" they want to conduct before the votes can be certified. No actual investigation would take place....it's just a matter of keeping the votes from being certified, knowing the Electoral College won't wait.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
26. They can ask for anything they want
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:11 PM
Nov 2020

It has about as much legal weight as me asking Santa Claus for two new front teeth.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
32. The main point of these seemingly idiotic moves appears to be to support Pissolini's bogus claims
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:15 PM
Nov 2020

that he was victorious, but got cheated by the demonic Dems. This keeps his cult happy and dying (in some cases literally) to give him more money through various channels--purchasing his not-made-in-America "America First" crap merchandise, buying tickets to his future ego rallies, and direct donations.

Not saying I'm 100% confident his Trump-U-quality lawyers won't manage to pull some sort of rabid rabbit out of a moldy hat, but people who know more than I do seem to think it's highly unlikely.

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
39. trump has not stopped his efforts to steal Michigan's electoral votes
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:55 PM
Nov 2020

I strongly believe that trump will not succeed but I will feel a great better when the Michigan certification is final . trump is doing his best to either get the GOP state legislature to put their own delegation of electors or to delay the selection of electors. We need to be viligent




Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
45. That is how I feel...this is so ridiculous. I can't believe a president could attempt a coup with
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:45 PM
Nov 2020

the support of his worthless GOP Party.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
48. This is all about delaying certificatation to put it in the house and steal the election.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 05:04 PM
Nov 2020

I don't think it will work...but am concerned.

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