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Dem2

(8,168 posts)
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:29 PM Nov 2020

$140 for an appt, $170 for a test, 5 days and counting for results?

We have no coordinated system for dealing with this pandemic in this country. It's a colossal disaster.

We are slow at work, so my coworker is working part time. She has no health insurance. She moonlights as a bartender so she can pay the rent. As you might expect, she was exposed to a person with Covid at her bartending job. 9 days after exposure, she got a call that she was exposed to a person who tested positive (they have 4 positive tests and counting currently.) She immediately gets a doctor's appointment ($140) and they recommend a test (next day, $170). She got the lab test due to the well published lack of accuracy of the quick-test (assuming the quick test was even offered.)

Currently I am in quarantine 5 days later waiting patiently for her result. By the time the result comes in, it'll be pointless. I have had to curtail ANY interaction with people (shopping, bringing mom stuff etc) since last Tuesday. IF she tests positive, then that puts a whole new set of events into motion (all essentially too delayed to make any difference.)

Am I wrong to be livid at how utterly inept our system is 9 months into this pandemic? Why are poor people who are barely making ends meet paying for tests? Why are doctors charging $140 just to give permission to take a test? Why are results so delayed as to have essentially no usefulness? Our entire company is on hold waiting for this result. We're honestly not much better than a 3rd world country at this point, it's no wonder our response to this pandemic has been a disaster. Obviously we would be much batter off if we had an actual coordinated government response, which starts at the top. Worst president ever. Biden can't get into office fast enough.

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$140 for an appt, $170 for a test, 5 days and counting for results? (Original Post) Dem2 Nov 2020 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Nov 2020 #1
That's insane Dem2 Nov 2020 #8
Part of it is ignorance (lack of an educational campaign) Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #13
One reason. One person. GDMFSOB DJT is no leader. CurtEastPoint Nov 2020 #2
This!👆 SheltieLover Nov 2020 #3
City MD LI, NY; 45 minute wait; No charge; MD-administered nasal swab; Results in 36 hours. lapucelle Nov 2020 #4
NEW YORK Dorian Gray Nov 2020 #43
NYS data as of the latest update lapucelle Nov 2020 #45
My Pillow said just drink some Oleander, then go back to sleep. Arne Nov 2020 #5
you're not wrong to be livid. barbtries Nov 2020 #6
So far, none of us who works with her has symptoms Dem2 Nov 2020 #10
such a drag. barbtries Nov 2020 #15
That sucks BainsBane Nov 2020 #7
There are many free places to test. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #9
Thanks, I'm sure this will help somebody here Dem2 Nov 2020 #11
Except in areas where they are completely overwhelmed, everyone qualifies now. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #14
Maybe it's harder in some states. Got a free test in May on a Sunday, results next morning. Alex4Martinez Nov 2020 #12
Mine was free spinbaby Nov 2020 #16
Please, NotAPuppet Nov 2020 #17
At least that part is done online Dem2 Nov 2020 #18
Sounds like a rip-off job to me. BannonsLiver Nov 2020 #19
Welcome to "healthcare-for-profit" Dem2 Nov 2020 #20
Lookit who's running the show sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #28
It's going to be an uphill climb Dem2 Nov 2020 #31
Truth, integrity and goodness is known to overtake lies, destruction and depravity. 💙 sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #38
When a friend was exposed a couple of months ago, she and her husband got in the car, went through niyad Nov 2020 #21
We Have Heard Hundreds Of Times That The Tests Are Free DallasNE Nov 2020 #22
Just four words: Medicare for All Americans. nt PatrickforO Nov 2020 #23
I was tested for free in NYC. I got the results by email three days later. IrishEyes Nov 2020 #24
One of my jobs is at skilled nursing and phys rehab. Because the infection rate is above 10% here, Volaris Nov 2020 #25
Yeah, it does suck Dem2 Nov 2020 #26
At least as far as enacting the policies that would address your concerns, Volaris Nov 2020 #27
She's apolitical, just poor and less educated Dem2 Nov 2020 #29
Then she would fall into the 'not actively working against us' category, AFAIC, Volaris Nov 2020 #30
I know of almost no unmarried women of any social status who we can't get on our side Dem2 Nov 2020 #33
I agree with this statement:) Volaris Nov 2020 #36
One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme. Ron Green Nov 2020 #32
+1000 paleotn Nov 2020 #35
Amen! Dem2 Nov 2020 #37
Worse than a 3rd World Country rickyhall Nov 2020 #34
We know how to do this. paleotn Nov 2020 #39
Are you in Oregon, because there have been for profit testing sites pop up here. MerryBlooms Nov 2020 #40
"Live free or die" Dem2 Nov 2020 #41
If it was a workplace exposure, why wouldn't worker's comp pay for the testing? Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #42
Well, since someone kicked this - she tested negative! Dem2 Nov 2020 #44

Response to Dem2 (Original post)

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
8. That's insane
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:43 PM
Nov 2020

I don't get it - why aren't we opening new labs and hiring more lab workers? Shouldn't our government be prioritizing this? The obvious problem being, we have NO government. Ugh.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
13. Part of it is ignorance (lack of an educational campaign)
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:57 PM
Nov 2020

this is the coordinated response.

I've had two tests using it - both free, both prompt (results within5 business days from when I requested the test).

We're so used to going to our doctors - and the free direct alternative hasn't been publicized either by the government or by our doctors and insurance plans.

https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/community-based-testing-sites/index.html#:~:text=COVID-19%20tests%20are,available%20in%20your%20area.

lapucelle

(18,252 posts)
4. City MD LI, NY; 45 minute wait; No charge; MD-administered nasal swab; Results in 36 hours.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:38 PM
Nov 2020

They did ask for an insurance or Medicaid/Medicare card.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
43. NEW YORK
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:36 AM
Nov 2020

has had a lot of urgent care places and pop up testing sites covered by insurance. And there are a lot of non-insurance people who will come to you for a price.... and the test itself is covered by your insurance.

But this past week, all the City MDs and NYC Health and Hospital sites and the Care Cube site have all had 2, 3., 4 hour waits. And the 25 hour turnover time has increased to 2-3 days. Which shows they weren't prepared for the uptick in the system.

Was hoping that the increased testing would mean percentages were lower, but that's not the case, either.

(This is Brooklyn, specifically.... but I think it's true city wide.)

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
6. you're not wrong to be livid.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:41 PM
Nov 2020

it is absurd.
any symptoms for either of you? hopefully you've escaped it.
it's so wrong that she had to pay even a penny for starters, and then for the results to be delayed, fuck that. honestly, i'm livid too. if it doesn't show all the time it's only because being livid for years at a time is exhausting.

this pandemic + trump = perfect storm

tragic, and largely unnecessary. i hope to see him brought up before an international tribune for crimes against humanity and depraved indifference, both for the stolen babies in cages and for his pandemic response.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
10. So far, none of us who works with her has symptoms
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:48 PM
Nov 2020

I was concerned since I noticed she had bad congestion/runny nose this past week at work.

I always wear a mask, but neither she nor my other coworkers do, and they smoke and hack all the time, so I'm right to be concerned and definitely can't visit my 86 year old mother until I find out (we both wear our masks 100% when I visit.)

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
15. such a drag.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:12 PM
Nov 2020

especially for you and your mother. it's gobsmacking to note how selfish and history-deprived people are. i hope you have a video chat option in the meantime, or at least can talk on the phone.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
9. There are many free places to test.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:44 PM
Nov 2020

My daughter was exposed a week ago yesterday. She got test results Wednesday, from a Monday test. I got results Saturday from a Wednesday test. Both were free.

Try here: https://www.projectbaseline.com/study/covid-19/ (they didn't even ask about insurance.)

My daughter's was free, through a mail-in site, associated with her insurance.

I'll be getting a second test through work on wednesday.

Here's another source for free tests: https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/community-based-testing-sites/index.html#:~:text=COVID-19%20tests%20are,available%20in%20your%20area.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
11. Thanks, I'm sure this will help somebody here
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:52 PM
Nov 2020

My coworker doesn't drive and lives in a rural area, her options are few.

I have good insurance and I paid $90 for a consult early on (March) and was told I didn't qualify for a test.

As I said, there's NO coordination and too much depends on one's social/economic status and sophistication. It shouldn't be this way!

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
14. Except in areas where they are completely overwhelmed, everyone qualifies now.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:07 PM
Nov 2020

Free testing is available 30 miles away from the rural town I grew up in (just as an example) - it's the town most people drive to for any significant shopping.

There are also mail-order tests. My daughter ordered hers on Saturday, it came on Monday, she had results by Wednesday.

Your right - there should be better general education about the availability of free testing.

No one should be left scrambing on their own - or paying a second time for tests that our tax dollars have already paid for.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
12. Maybe it's harder in some states. Got a free test in May on a Sunday, results next morning.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:55 PM
Nov 2020

Friends got free tests at a CVS but had to wait ten days.

I recommend calling around, looking for a clinic or even urgent care facility, but I also know that some directions have been issued that you should get your family practice physician to refer you.

Good luck!

spinbaby

(15,089 posts)
16. Mine was free
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:19 PM
Nov 2020

But took too long. I called my doctor on a Friday and the next available opening was Tuesday. It took two days to get results. By the time I got results, I was feeling better, but still quarantined.

NotAPuppet

(326 posts)
17. Please,
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:22 PM
Nov 2020

please don't call your doctor's office and shout at the staff. They can't expedite the results and they have to work with what is available right now in terms of testing. The wait can be very frustrating for patients, but it is equally frustrating for the medical staff. Just a little reminder to be kind to our healthcare workers. Which I am sure most of you are.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
18. At least that part is done online
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:30 PM
Nov 2020

She has sent us photos of the screen showing "no results". lol.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
20. Welcome to "healthcare-for-profit"
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 03:34 PM
Nov 2020

You'd think 9 months into a pandemic, there'd be a simple, single point of contact to get tested.

sprinkleeninow

(20,245 posts)
28. Lookit who's running the show
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:20 PM
Nov 2020

into the ground.

The workers of iniquity.

I keep reminding myself of President-Elect Biden and Vice President-Elect Harris. What if we had gotten the unthinkable reverse...

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
31. It's going to be an uphill climb
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:24 PM
Nov 2020

If there's any regular Joe who I think can get it done, however, it's Joe Biden.

Even if he can't get the Senate to do anything, he can sign executive orders and actually show a little empathy for most of us who simply want to believe our country cares about our wellbeing.

niyad

(113,279 posts)
21. When a friend was exposed a couple of months ago, she and her husband got in the car, went through
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:27 PM
Nov 2020

the drive-thru test site, were back in an hour. Results via email in four days.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
22. We Have Heard Hundreds Of Times That The Tests Are Free
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:37 PM
Nov 2020

Back in May my daughter caught the stomach flu, which has overlapping symptoms. She got tested and after 4 1/2 days we found out she was negative. The lab was in network but insurance didn't cover any of the costs, which were $240.

Is there any wonder that we have the worst record in the industrialized world with such a slipshod system in place? It just begs to end up in failure.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
24. I was tested for free in NYC. I got the results by email three days later.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 04:52 PM
Nov 2020

I was in and out of the testing site in 15 minutes.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
25. One of my jobs is at skilled nursing and phys rehab. Because the infection rate is above 10% here,
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:08 PM
Nov 2020

They test us twice a week on instants screens; results in 15 min and they're paying for it. Not sure the accuracy of the test overall, but grateful to show up on my day off and have it done.

Sorry for your friend, sorry for the delay. Yeah, it's stupid it's not this easy for everyone:/

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
26. Yeah, it does suck
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:12 PM
Nov 2020

I get the feeling that in this "I, me, me mine" country, there isn't a lot of sympathy for poor rural people, or people of lesser means and or intelligence. It's too bad and perhaps something we should think about as Democrats?

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
27. At least as far as enacting the policies that would address your concerns,
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:17 PM
Nov 2020

Its easier if those people are willing to help us do that. I'll even take 'Not actively working against us', in order to get even part of that done.

Seems so far, they're not all that willing.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
29. She's apolitical, just poor and less educated
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:21 PM
Nov 2020

I don't know why we paint with such a wide brush?

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
30. Then she would fall into the 'not actively working against us' category, AFAIC,
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:24 PM
Nov 2020

And truly my heart goes out to her. And yes, those are a lot of the people we need to be writing good policy FOR.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
33. I know of almost no unmarried women of any social status who we can't get on our side
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:26 PM
Nov 2020

I have a feeling Biden will do something about this - he's smart and compassionate.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
32. One risk pool is a health care system. Multiple risk pools is an investment scheme.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:24 PM
Nov 2020

We have enough investment schemes in this country; we need a health care system.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
39. We know how to do this.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 05:34 PM
Nov 2020

We have plans upon plans on how to do this. There's simply no will in this administration and a quarter million people are dead because of that fact.

MerryBlooms

(11,769 posts)
40. Are you in Oregon, because there have been for profit testing sites pop up here.
Sun Nov 22, 2020, 06:02 PM
Nov 2020

They're legit, but expensive. However, they aren't required to report their results and aren't figured into our total Covid numbers.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
42. If it was a workplace exposure, why wouldn't worker's comp pay for the testing?
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 06:48 AM
Nov 2020

Totally fucked. Sorry.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
44. Well, since someone kicked this - she tested negative!
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:36 AM
Nov 2020

Update this morning is that she's negative.

Coworkers thought there was little chance she could be positive, even though 4 people tested positive at the tested person's other workplace.

They seemed shocked that I wouldn't visit my 86 year old mother before knowing if she was negative!

When I noted that she suddenly had bad congestion the week after exposure (they can't even acknowledge that people spread it without symptoms), I started overhearing talk of "allergies" - something she's never had or talked about, never mind that it's mid-November. THIS is why it's spreading wildly - people are in denial.

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