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Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:09 AM Nov 2020

GA elections official on CNN: "We keep on going through these machinations and showing..."



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Kyle Griffin
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Georgia elections official Gabriel Sterling on CNN: "We keep on going through these machinations and showing that there's nothing here."

He confirms that the recount Trump just requested will be done at taxpayer expense.
8:00 AM · Nov 23, 2020



This is the same official that is under police protection after receiving threats.
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beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. seems like Georgia needs to add cost for doing a recount to the the who is asking the recount to be
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:11 AM
Nov 2020

done, paid in full before starting

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
5. Yeah every state should.
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:14 AM
Nov 2020

If the state wants to do a full or random sampling as part of its internal audit (the so called "hand recount" in GA) that is fine. That is part of the state double checking everything before certifying. However recounts almost never change the results (>97% of all recounts leave original victor on top) and they are expensive and time consuming and the staff has just gone through an expensive time consuming canvas and audit.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
6. It is certified. In many states recounts if requested happen AFTER certification.
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:16 AM
Nov 2020

There is good reason for that because once a result is certified it is binding barring a future reversal. The federal Dec 8th safe harbour deadline means that any legal action or recounts will stop then (Bush v Gore) so if future actions can't be completed in time you still have the certified result to fall back on (in this case Biden winning GA).

Not every state does this but many including GA do as a safety measure to avoid a situation where Dec 8th comes and you have no certified winner

In GA (and many other states) the timeline is
Canvas (validate & tabulate) -> Final Unofficial Count -> Audit -> Certification -> Recount (if conditions allow and is requested)

radius777

(3,635 posts)
8. Good explanation, likely also why Michigan's
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:25 AM
Nov 2020

SoS (the brilliant Jocelyn Benson) is not putting up with the GOP's stalling tactics based upon conspiracy theories, and is pushing through with the certification (and I believe will goto court to force it should the GOP stooges cause a 2-2 deadlock) while promising to conduct a 'risk limiting audit' of Wayne and other counties after the certification.

dware

(12,369 posts)
7. It is certified, Gov. Kemp already signed off on the certification,
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:17 AM
Nov 2020

Pissolini had to wait for the formal certification to ask for a recount, which will change nothing except to cost the state even more money.

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