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Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 02:53 PM Nov 2020

I just got a phishing e-mail from "paypal"

Here it is:

Your account has been suspended (Ref - 20282152943)
Nov 25 at 10:33 AM
PrintRaw message

𝖯𝖺𝗒𝖯𝖺𝖨
To: Trailrider1951

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It looks legit, except for the sending e-mail address. Of course, I did not click on the short cut button. Instead, I opened a new tab and logged in from there. My account is just fine, thank you very much. I've already forwarded the e-mail to spoof@paypal.com.
Please be aware of this scam!

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I just got a phishing e-mail from "paypal" (Original Post) Trailrider1951 Nov 2020 OP
Thank you! NCjack Nov 2020 #1
Forward the entire email to spoof@paypal.com HAB911 Nov 2020 #2
I quit sending them on to their fraud dept. Bev54 Nov 2020 #51
Good thing you are aware. drray23 Nov 2020 #3
I get them all the time - from Paypal (so it seems), Amazon, Square, Squarespace NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #4
Almost daily here. Fritz Walter Nov 2020 #34
Thank you Mike 03 Nov 2020 #5
I got one from Comcast... albacore Nov 2020 #6
I also got one from Comcast jmowreader Nov 2020 #17
Ooops! ProfessorGAC Nov 2020 #28
I get those all the time via email. Texts are usually about SS captain queeg Nov 2020 #7
I get those from time to time. I just forward them and then delete them. Arkansas Granny Nov 2020 #8
Also from Netflix jmbar2 Nov 2020 #9
I have had those from Paypal, Netflix, and a bank I don't even use pandr32 Nov 2020 #10
I've got this as well. Along with a couple of similar ones from Amazon. Midnight Writer Nov 2020 #11
Just got one of those earlier today. Wellstone ruled Nov 2020 #13
always look for inauthentic e-mail address Stallion Nov 2020 #12
I Faux pas Nov 2020 #14
I got the same message. kskiska Nov 2020 #15
I've gotten a bunch of those. Crunchy Frog Nov 2020 #16
Yup shanti Nov 2020 #18
I got one as well...followed what you did....it just Didn't "ring true" ... ashredux Nov 2020 #19
I just got one for Netflix Drahthaardogs Nov 2020 #20
Maybe not SCantiGOP Nov 2020 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author SCantiGOP Nov 2020 #49
used to get a bunch of them but never check my pp email account in ages. nt yaesu Nov 2020 #21
I once got a phishing email from inside paypal bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #22
You know, I've had my Paypal acct for years, and had only 1 small problem. Trailrider1951 Nov 2020 #24
Thanks, obviously, you can do what you like bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #27
I get a lot of these. birdographer Nov 2020 #23
I report them all to comoany, even if I don't have their service, then flag it as a Phishing email. TheBlackAdder Nov 2020 #25
These scams are on the rise to trick people into downloading ransom ware William Seger Nov 2020 #26
Another reason to backup critical information bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #29
Note- it's a spoof that says PayPai - with a capital I James48 Nov 2020 #30
I get those, too SnowCritter Nov 2020 #31
Thanks for the warning. Joinfortmill Nov 2020 #32
I forward the entire email to spoof@paypal.com meow2u3 Nov 2020 #33
Ive been getting same leighbythesea2 Nov 2020 #35
Look out for invoices as well--going through legit paypal crimycarny Nov 2020 #36
I get a lot of them offering $50,000 for filling out a survey. keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #37
Yes Several of them yellowwoodII Nov 2020 #38
And it is the most convincing screen I've seen yet, even the address on it is almost believable ... marble falls Nov 2020 #39
Thanks for the warning! I get a lot of these. Shoonra Nov 2020 #40
Most of the time, if you move your curser over the email, the ENTIRE email is one big link... George II Nov 2020 #41
My husband Rebl2 Nov 2020 #42
I've had that email a couple of times now recently Hulk Nov 2020 #43
There is a trick that foils them every time Chainfire Nov 2020 #45
New to DU housecat Nov 2020 #46
Welcome to DU housecat Trailrider1951 Nov 2020 #53
Many thanks housecat Nov 2020 #57
Hey, housecat! Welcome to the madhouse! klook Nov 2020 #55
Thanks for the tips housecat Nov 2020 #58
Welcome to DU! DesertRat Nov 2020 #56
Happy happy joy joy housecat Nov 2020 #59
Interesting. This is why I use disposable forwardable email addresses for most online transactions. klook Nov 2020 #47
I get these criminal emails all day long. ALWAYS look to see where it's being sent from. OMGWTF Nov 2020 #48
I have gotten those from Amazon, Netflix and PayPal. IrishEyes Nov 2020 #50
My security software (Eset) alerted me a few days ago lillypaddle Nov 2020 #52
I get so many of those Dem2 Nov 2020 #54

Bev54

(10,052 posts)
51. I quit sending them on to their fraud dept.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:44 PM
Nov 2020

I tend to get one every other month and I have not had a paypal account since 2002. I also get one each month for Netflix, amazon and different banks. It is just a way of life these days, they all get deleted.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
3. Good thing you are aware.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:00 PM
Nov 2020

Those scammers rely on the fact than even if most people like you are not fooled, a few will. So they send millions of scam emails and scam a few hundreds.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
4. I get them all the time - from Paypal (so it seems), Amazon, Square, Squarespace
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:00 PM
Nov 2020

they all go into the spam folder.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
34. Almost daily here.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:45 PM
Nov 2020

Some are automatically routed to my Spam folder (using Bombast/Yfinity's app or web-mail site). Others make it through to the Inbox.

In addition to checking the sender's email -- usually the dead-giveaway in a phishing scheme -- I occasionally get a message that appears to be genuine, until I let my mouse hover over the "click-here" link and then carefully examine the full address shown in the little box that appears, (usually adjacent to the mouse pointer). In the vast majority of cases, the URL does not point to the institution which the sender would have me believe is legit. Hint: look at the domain name: ___.com. Clearly, this is a good approach for desktop browsers; may not be too functional on portable devices. Nine times out of ten, it gets tossed.

I've almost given up on forwarding the phishing message to the bank/app-owner/alleged-sender's "abuse" or other security mailbox.

Stay sharp everyone. Let these predators feast on the MAGAts.

And, speaking of feasting, I wish everyone here a happy Turkey Day!

albacore

(2,398 posts)
6. I got one from Comcast...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:00 PM
Nov 2020

that said they need to update my email... or some shit like that. Looked VERY official.

The sender was sonnysing007@gmail.com

If that was legit, Comcast needs to make it clearer.

ProfessorGAC

(65,021 posts)
28. Ooops!
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:26 PM
Nov 2020

Like the calls we get over an expiring extended car warranty we never had!
Yeah, that's probably not going to trip us up.

captain queeg

(10,195 posts)
7. I get those all the time via email. Texts are usually about SS
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:01 PM
Nov 2020

Or some generic I identified “account”. I guess it’s easy to send millions of those out. If you get a couple hundred bites could be profitable for the scammer.

jmbar2

(4,886 posts)
9. Also from Netflix
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:05 PM
Nov 2020

NFLX just announced a rate increase, so the spammers are capitalizing on the news to phish.

pandr32

(11,582 posts)
10. I have had those from Paypal, Netflix, and a bank I don't even use
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:10 PM
Nov 2020

...as well as others.
The tell is the address the message is sent from. The page looks official.
I have wondered how many people fall for these. I would bet there are many victims. This shit needs to be seriously cracked down on and perhaps public service announcements to warn innocent, gullible people who have learned to trust what looks real.
The dark arts for sure. I'd love to find out if this is state sponsored somewhere.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Just got one of those earlier today.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:15 PM
Nov 2020

First was a bogus call from a 801 area code and a 101 number which usually is a Caribbean Number,second was a e-mail that landed in our Spam Box.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
12. always look for inauthentic e-mail address
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:12 PM
Nov 2020

I get a bunch every day--I report them as phishing attempts but I doubt anybody really monitors reports

anybody know if reporting phishing attempts does a thing?

Crunchy Frog

(26,582 posts)
16. I've gotten a bunch of those.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:38 PM
Nov 2020

I checked my account the first time, but would never, EVER click on anything in the email. I wonder how many people have been taken by that scam.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
18. Yup
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:00 PM
Nov 2020

I've gotten them too, along with similar from Amazon. Even got a phone call from someone trying to "deliver" a package to my "gated community" and needed the passcode to get in. Problem is, I don't live in a gated community and I didn't order anything from Amazon!

I just forward every phishing/spearphishing email to the appropriate spoof department.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
44. Maybe not
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:36 PM
Nov 2020

Netflix just announced a price increase. I got an email from them yesterday about the new price.

Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #20)

bucolic_frolic

(43,160 posts)
22. I once got a phishing email from inside paypal
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:05 PM
Nov 2020

unexplained how I got it.

just close paypal before it's too late. They can freeze your account or issue you with chargeback up to 180 days after a transaction.

don't know how there are so many people with stolen accounts, and where does the merchandise go? i doubt there's a system to find out. as long as they can get the money back from you, there's no reason to look.

just close paypal before it's too late.

Trailrider1951

(3,414 posts)
24. You know, I've had my Paypal acct for years, and had only 1 small problem.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:13 PM
Nov 2020

I use it for contributions to DU, Actblue, personal gofundme solicitations, and some online purchases. I don't keep any cash there, and I really like not having my credit card number spread around. I'm sorry your experience has been less than optimal, but I think I'm going to keep my account. YMMV.

bucolic_frolic

(43,160 posts)
27. Thanks, obviously, you can do what you like
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:24 PM
Nov 2020

I plan to close mine. I was amazed at the tales on Twitter #boycottpaypal One user claims to have been tied up on more than 80 grand since March I think it was.

I just think there must be other ways to pay ... I think Google has an app, I've heard of Venmo and several others.

The crooks have reached a level of sophistication and knowledge that they are able to game the system. It's all verbal and email.

Free merchandise on eBay ... ask for a return on low priced items ... most sellers won't absorb the return shipping, get a refund.

Some claim it's not as described. Claim they never got it. Oh it was delivered to their porch, someone stole it.

That's why with valuable merchandise, sellers require signatures. But even then there are cases of returns with damaged goods that don't match. For some reason the few I read were in UK.

i'm skeptical of managed payments, all CC transactions. That's a potential mine field.

I think there are sites that don't allow returns, and only use merchant accounts.

birdographer

(1,327 posts)
23. I get a lot of these.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:07 PM
Nov 2020

They look so real, I know that there are people out there that believe them and follow the instructions and most likely get robbed blind. I feel sorry for them.

TheBlackAdder

(28,193 posts)
25. I report them all to comoany, even if I don't have their service, then flag it as a Phishing email.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:16 PM
Nov 2020

.

I've been getting PayPal, FedEx, UPS, Amazon.

If you open up the email payload, most often they originate from AWS (Amazon Web Services).

The majority of scam sites and redirect emails are from Amazon free and $1 subscription accounts.
You report them, and a day later they are running under a different AWS account.

Get the originator IP address, from the email details, open a command prompt and enter as example: nslookup xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. This will give you the host name and most probably there will be a virtual AWS server name.

.

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
26. These scams are on the rise to trick people into downloading ransom ware
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:17 PM
Nov 2020

That's a virus that encrypts your hard drive and demands a ransom to unlock it. If you ever get one of those installed, do NOT make it worse by paying the ransom; you won't be getting your system back either way.

bucolic_frolic

(43,160 posts)
29. Another reason to backup critical information
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:29 PM
Nov 2020

either via USB, Drop Box, or another hard drive.

And have backup recover/install disks, or use Linux which is readily reinstalled. It's a hassle to set it all up again, but with backups and the original install DVD/USB, it can be completed in a matter of a few hours. One evening.

James48

(4,436 posts)
30. Note- it's a spoof that says PayPai - with a capital I
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:35 PM
Nov 2020

PayPaI, with a capital I .

Never believe PayPal emails that you didn’t request.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
33. I forward the entire email to spoof@paypal.com
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:38 PM
Nov 2020

Then I send it to my spam box and delete it permanently.

I got one of those spoof emails in my inbox this morning. Just check the sender's email and/or the full header on your email. It's not from paypal unless both apply: the sender's email is paypal.com AND you're addressed by name.

crimycarny

(1,351 posts)
36. Look out for invoices as well--going through legit paypal
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:51 PM
Nov 2020

Apparently anyone with a PayPal account can send you an invoice. I got an email from legit PayPal that said “The Department of Motor Vehicles sent you an invoice for $16.00. Click here to pay”.

At first I thought it might be legit, but logged into my PayPal account to get more info. There was an invoice for $16 sitting there waiting for me to pay. But digging into the senders PayPal I noticed it belonged to “Nicole Bailey”. I looked at my email again and saw a graphic included in the alleged invoice that was “DMV*USA”. I reported it to PayPal and they shut down the PayPal account. I posted a warning on FB and a friend posted she got the same PayPal email, also allegedly from “The Department of Motor Vehicles”, but in her case the “owner” was a different name (Sandy something). Which tells me someone created a lot of fake PayPal accounts and sent out a ton of these invoices.

It was a good heads up that ANYONE can send you an invoice. So watch out for that as well.

keithbvadu2

(36,796 posts)
37. I get a lot of them offering $50,000 for filling out a survey.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:55 PM
Nov 2020

I get a lot of them offering $50,000 for filling out a survey.

Lucky me!

Home Depot, banks, Fed Ex, post office, many others.

All bs.

As if the post office has money to spend like that on surveys.

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
38. Yes Several of them
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:01 PM
Nov 2020

I've forwarded all of them to the company and they have responded.

I'd like to know why this illegal activity isn't prosecuted.

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
39. And it is the most convincing screen I've seen yet, even the address on it is almost believable ...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:05 PM
Nov 2020

When I get any of these (and the PayPal one has tried me three or four times) I go to PayPal through my account to check and change my password.

I had an Amazon phisher about three months ago that had an almost believable address, too.

Then there were several attempts to blackmail me for Bitcoin by several who claimed they had taken control of my camera and contact list and were going to send videos of me "reacting" to porn sites to everyone I e-mail.

Neat trick: I don't use porn sites, I do not keep a contact list and the tape over my camera is never removed.

The porn thing started after I clicked what was supposed to be a site (listed on Pinterest) on a natural wines, and I was fooled enough to list my e-mail. When I tried to explore the site, none of the options in the header worked and I got out fast. I disconnected from Pinterest. There were a lot of links there that wouldn't work or didn't work right.

The net is one place where vigilance is required.

Shoonra

(521 posts)
40. Thanks for the warning! I get a lot of these.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
Nov 2020

I get a lot of these scam messages, not just from Paypal (I do not have an account) but pretending to be from a variety of big companies that lots of people would do business with; for example, Chase Bank, Bank of America, American Express, Amazon, etc.

The scammers are playing the odds that some recipients will be clients of the pretended source and fall for the "your account is frozen" message. The artwork is impressive and authentic looking, but sometimes the proofreading of the message is defective.


The offered link back to the company is also fake and sends you to the scammer's phishing questionnaire where they will want your name, account number, possibly your SSN, and maybe instruct you to send money (online or maybe by snailmail) someplace (not to the pretended company's real office address).

Usually these scam emails do not address you by your real name nor even by your email handle. Ignore these messages, do not even click the link. If you had a real problem with the real company, the real company would address you by your proper name and possibly include your snailmail address or some other authentic personal info to show they really have you as a customer.

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. Most of the time, if you move your curser over the email, the ENTIRE email is one big link...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:24 PM
Nov 2020

I keep getting emails saying my "account" is suspended, except that it's for a bank or organization with which I do NOT have an account!

Rebl2

(13,501 posts)
42. My husband
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:27 PM
Nov 2020

and I get these often. I get them from PayPal and Amazon. My husband gets them from Amazon and Wells Fargo bank-we don’t have an account at Wells Fargo.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
43. I've had that email a couple of times now recently
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:30 PM
Nov 2020

I did the same thing.... didn't bother to click on their tab rather went straight to my Paypal account.

I'm getting the same notices for Amazon.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
46. New to DU
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

Well I didn't expect my first reply at DU would be this, but then who expected the last four years? i got one from Amazon -- well not exactly FROM Amazon. I called customer service and got a scammer who told me my account had been compromised. You can fill in the rest. Miraculously I didn't send any money, which I was almost stupid enough to do. And I did contact FTC for what it's worth.
So have a safe and happy Thanksgiving y'all. I've been wanting to join some of the discussions, so may my second attempt at least have some humor, and keep my occasional bouts of stupidity to myself.
Peace

klook

(12,154 posts)
55. Hey, housecat! Welcome to the madhouse!
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:51 PM
Nov 2020

If you've been lurking for a bit, you have an idea of what this board is like. It's a great place to interact with (mostly) like-minded people, and there are many forums and groups that you might want to explore. It can be addictive and sometimes maddening, like any discussion board, but on the whole my experiences here have been very positive.

Pro Tip: I often start with "Latest Threads" to see what's percolating and current, but I also like to go to the Home page to get an overview -- and to see EarlG's excellent "Pic of the Moment" posts. You may find a different entry point that works better for you.

Enjoy, and I look forward to your future posts.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
58. Thanks for the tips
Sat Nov 28, 2020, 04:56 PM
Nov 2020

Ok this is my second response to a response, and I'm feeling accomplished. Thanks for the tips!

klook

(12,154 posts)
47. Interesting. This is why I use disposable forwardable email addresses for most online transactions.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:43 PM
Nov 2020

If I receive spam or phishing attempts to an address, I can tell exactly where the perps got it from, and I can delete or change that address and alert the vendor that apparently got hacked. I do have a PayPal account, and it's linked to a disposable email address that I don't use anywhere else, and that forwards to a real one that I don't publish.

I also make payments with a credit card via PayPal, not bank account funds transfer. That way if I need to cancel a fraudulent credit card transaction, I can easily contact the card provider. I've only had to do that a couple of times in my life, but it's nice to know I can if need be.

Smart of you to recognize this and handle it the way you did. I worry that as I get older my defenses will weaken, and that's one of the reasons I've put barriers around my real email addresses and real financial account information.

OMGWTF

(3,955 posts)
48. I get these criminal emails all day long. ALWAYS look to see where it's being sent from.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:43 PM
Nov 2020

Here is a list of the eight most-frequently spoofed company emails that I get, along with the email address to forward it to the company's IT fraud dept. so they can shut down these rat bastards. If I'm in a pissy mood, I'll wait a day until after the real company gets the fake email to start an investigation and then send the criminal an email telling them that they will die in prison.

PayPal - spoof@paypal.com.

Apple - report phishing@apple.com

Amazon - stop-spoofing@amazon.com

Netflix - phishing @netflix.com

Ebay - spoof@ebay

American Express - spoof@americanexpress.com

Chase Bank - abuse@chase.com

USPS - spam@usps.gov

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
50. I have gotten those from Amazon, Netflix and PayPal.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:44 PM
Nov 2020

I never use PayPal or order from Amazon. I don't order online very often. I also have never had a Netflix account.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
52. My security software (Eset) alerted me a few days ago
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:45 PM
Nov 2020

that I had logged into a fake website, and while the threat was blocked and removed, 6 of my accounts' passwords were compromised. Paypal was one of them. I changed my passwords on the said accounts, except for Paypal, which I really don't use. I cancelled the account there.

So, I don't know, maybe it's a coincidence, but be sure it really was a fake email. YMMV.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
54. I get so many of those
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:48 PM
Nov 2020

Usually on an account that isn't affiliated with the account that's targeted. Or with a bank that I have no account.

And yes, the Paypal ones that give one a temporary BP spike.

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