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Baclava

(12,047 posts)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:34 PM Nov 2020

Biden: No Bernie or Elizabeth Warren in his cabinet because he 'needs them in the Senate'

Joe Biden said he will not tap progressives Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders for his administration, claiming he needs their presence in the U.S. Senate

'We already have significant representation among progressives in our administration,' Biden told NBC in his first interview since declaring victory

He said: 'Taking someone out of the Senate, taking someone out of the House, particularly for a person of consequence, is a really difficult decision'

'I have a very ambitious, very progressive agenda. and it's going to take really strong leaders in the House and Senate to get it done,' Biden continued in his first interview since he declared victory.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8986019/Biden-wont-Bernie-Sanders-Elizabeth-Warren-Cabinet-need-Senate.html

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well there ya go Bernie

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Biden: No Bernie or Elizabeth Warren in his cabinet because he 'needs them in the Senate' (Original Post) Baclava Nov 2020 OP
Both states have GOP Governors (needs to be changed in 2022). Dawson Leery Nov 2020 #1
Correct. MA and VT governors would appoint "moderate" Republicans klook Nov 2020 #3
Scott Says He Would Replace Sanders With Democrat-Affiliated Independent Celerity Nov 2020 #15
Why yes Lysol2020 Nov 2020 #24
That's what Rebl2 Nov 2020 #48
Sure he would. How dumb would we have to be to believe that? pnwmom Nov 2020 #52
Always worked for Charlie Brown when whistler162 Nov 2020 #54
"Good grief." NurseJackie Nov 2020 #56
What amazes me is how Scott got nearly 69% of the vote in Vermont, while Biden got 66%. patphil Nov 2020 #61
I agree with Biden's decision. Both are needed in the Senate. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #2
I agree too. We need every single person. All hands on deck. Vivienne235729 Nov 2020 #74
well, how about putting a GOP Senator into his Admin, from a blue state.... RussBLib Nov 2020 #4
I doubt he would want a communist in his Cabinet. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #8
Richard Burr is probably the most moderate on the list RussBLib Nov 2020 #14
Lets offer McConnell a cabinet position. LisaL Nov 2020 #18
bit of a long shot RussBLib Nov 2020 #19
He could be Secretary of Garbage & Sanitation if we had one. rickyhall Nov 2020 #47
He would probably want to be Secretary of China Affairs. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #65
I think some Democrats would like to offer McConnell a horizontal cabinet (that was rude, sorry!) George II Nov 2020 #50
haha - I predict that I will hear that.... RussBLib Nov 2020 #51
Susan Collins would be perfect for the Department of Concern. madinmaryland Nov 2020 #36
+1000 bluescribbler Nov 2020 #40
I would say Toomey is, and Burr may be in trouble for insider trading Celerity Nov 2020 #58
Yeah, Toomey would be good BainsBane Nov 2020 #64
Ron Johnson, the one still pushing hydroxychloroquine? Please no. brush Nov 2020 #20
Johnson would not qualify because he's TOO FUCKING STUPID! Poiuyt Nov 2020 #34
There ya go. You said it better than I did. brush Nov 2020 #72
who is a communist? Celerity Nov 2020 #59
And the potential candidates would be? LisaL Nov 2020 #13
see above n/t RussBLib Nov 2020 #16
He did. Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #37
Really? You think she is conservative? RussBLib Nov 2020 #43
My mistake. Mr.Bill Nov 2020 #55
was going to say.... RussBLib Nov 2020 #57
Never happen Rebl2 Nov 2020 #49
You know, different states have different rules for tthis type of replacement. soldierant Nov 2020 #62
No pipe dream. Jakes Progress Nov 2020 #63
Toomey has a great interest in Cancer which Biden shares...Cancer Czar? Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #70
Yes! President-elect Biden knows what he's doing Glorfindel Nov 2020 #5
That's not true. Cabinet Secretaries are very important. SharonClark Nov 2020 #44
As much as I love both, the risk-reward proposition just wasn't worth it, given that bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #6
not to mention the seniority they hold, yellowdogintexas Nov 2020 #39
Totally agree with this call- any hints AkFemDem Nov 2020 #7
Why the Wuotation marks? Dream Girl Nov 2020 #9
Wuotation marks are sexy Baclava Nov 2020 #27
Your reply is 'revealing'. 💋 sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #33
it's a cut and paste from the article Celerity Nov 2020 #68
Good. We can't risk losing any Senate seats nt awesomerwb1 Nov 2020 #10
Good Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 #11
No point shooting yourself in the foot and making it more difficult for your administration. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #12
That's just common sense. I will never get why the so-called leftists were pushing that. brush Nov 2020 #17
It is usually because those pushing it don't have an understanding. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #66
In 2015 Biden wanted Warren for his helpmate VP if he ran then, and Hortensis Nov 2020 #21
I don't consider him a go getter either. At first glance it appears he is. LiberalFighter Nov 2020 #67
Plausible denial Beringia Nov 2020 #22
And he's so right shanti Nov 2020 #23
Fully understand this. No disagreement from me. n/t CousinIT Nov 2020 #25
Biden's agenda is actually pretty DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #26
Joe is quite correct. warmfeet Nov 2020 #28
After 2022 election. James48 Nov 2020 #29
As a Sanders 2016 and then Warren 2020 primary supporter I agree with Joe berni_mccoy Nov 2020 #30
Perfect way to phrase it DFW Nov 2020 #31
AGREE! n/t orleans Nov 2020 #32
Pack/stack the Senate with Dems. sprinkleeninow Nov 2020 #35
If you care about the country treestar Nov 2020 #38
Smart. And doesn't keep them from being tapped in a future reorganization. TygrBright Nov 2020 #41
I agree with that decision 100% Hulk Nov 2020 #42
Agreed. crickets Nov 2020 #45
And I agree. The Senate is where the fight will be taking place ... marble falls Nov 2020 #46
"We already have significant representation among progressives in our administration..." NurseJackie Nov 2020 #53
I agree with him about needing them both in the senate... Basement Beat Nov 2020 #60
They both need to be in the Senate to keep it at 50, assuming GA goes blue the rest of the way. Gore1FL Nov 2020 #69
Didn't see that one coming. 🙄 nt Raine Nov 2020 #71
YEAH!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2020 #73

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
1. Both states have GOP Governors (needs to be changed in 2022).
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:36 PM
Nov 2020

In the end, no Republican can be trusted.

klook

(12,161 posts)
3. Correct. MA and VT governors would appoint "moderate" Republicans
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:42 PM
Nov 2020

giving Moscow Mitch a safe majority for at least the first two years of the Biden-Harris administration.

Lysol2020

(18 posts)
24. Why yes
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:13 PM
Nov 2020

he would says he. I'm certain he'd never succumb to the pressure of the Republican Party. None of them would ever do something they said they wouldn't. I agree with you, we need to use common sense here and not take that bait.

Rebl2

(13,536 posts)
48. That's what
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:42 PM
Nov 2020

my feeling is and would not trust a republican governor (VT) to replace him with a Democrat affiliated independent. I don’t trust any republican politicians.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
54. Always worked for Charlie Brown when
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:51 PM
Nov 2020

Lucy Van Pelt promised not to take the football away so why shouldn't it work for Democrats when a Republican makes a promise!

patphil

(6,194 posts)
61. What amazes me is how Scott got nearly 69% of the vote in Vermont, while Biden got 66%.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:25 PM
Nov 2020

As Vizzini once said, "Inconceivable!"

Caliman73

(11,742 posts)
2. I agree with Biden's decision. Both are needed in the Senate.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:40 PM
Nov 2020

As another poster said, both are in states with a currently Republican Governor so that would likely mean to Republican Senators selected and we cannot afford that.

RussBLib

(9,028 posts)
4. well, how about putting a GOP Senator into his Admin, from a blue state....
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:42 PM
Nov 2020

...with a blue Governor, who could replace the GOP Senator with a Democratic one?

Yeah, yeah, it's a pipe dream.

LiberalFighter

(51,013 posts)
8. I doubt he would want a communist in his Cabinet.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:47 PM
Nov 2020

If Ron Johnson was a moderate then it would be worth considering.

RussBLib

(9,028 posts)
14. Richard Burr is probably the most moderate on the list
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:51 PM
Nov 2020

I count 9 GOP Senators in blue-Governor states.

Burr - NC
Cassidy - LA
Collins - ME
Johnson - WI
Kennedy - LA
McConnell - KY
Paul - KY
Tillis - NC
Toomey - PA (Toomey has already announced he won't run in 2022)

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. I think some Democrats would like to offer McConnell a horizontal cabinet (that was rude, sorry!)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:44 PM
Nov 2020

BainsBane

(53,040 posts)
64. Yeah, Toomey would be good
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:41 PM
Nov 2020

only because he'll be replaced with a Dem Senator. Plus he's got nothing to lose since he's not running for re-election.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
13. And the potential candidates would be?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:50 PM
Nov 2020

A republican senator from a blue state with a democratic governor?

soldierant

(6,903 posts)
62. You know, different states have different rules for tthis type of replacement.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:31 PM
Nov 2020

In some states the governor chooses, but in some states it's the party of the departing Senator. I don't know which is which, but I'd bet good money that Joe and his team do know, in exquisite detail. Including whether or not there must also be a special election, and if so, when.

I'm a big fan of leaving Senators in the Senate - especially in a Senate as close as this one.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
63. No pipe dream.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:39 PM
Nov 2020

There are a lot of pointless appointees. We don't need a moderate. Get one of the bigger assholes out of the Senate. How about collins for ambassador to wherever? Get one into a job where they can't do anything without approval. Appoint two.

Demsrule86

(68,632 posts)
70. Toomey has a great interest in Cancer which Biden shares...Cancer Czar?
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:08 PM
Nov 2020

He does not plan to run again. Don't like him much but he was one of the first GOP's to say Biden won. And PA has a Democratic governor.

Glorfindel

(9,732 posts)
5. Yes! President-elect Biden knows what he's doing
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:44 PM
Nov 2020

Legislators can be much, much more effective than cabinet secretaries, who are mostly there for ceremonial purposes (the Secretary of State and Attorney General excepted).

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
6. As much as I love both, the risk-reward proposition just wasn't worth it, given that
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:47 PM
Nov 2020

both states are run by Repuke governors.

brush

(53,810 posts)
17. That's just common sense. I will never get why the so-called leftists were pushing that.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 03:52 PM
Nov 2020

We can't afford to give away Senate seats, as repug governors sure won't appoint Democrats to replace them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. In 2015 Biden wanted Warren for his helpmate VP if he ran then, and
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:09 PM
Nov 2020

they met to discuss it while he considered. So whatever reasons go into this decision, they in no way reflect badly on her. I'm wondering if he might eventually have a special assignment for her.

One look at the kind of extremely qualified, extremely experienced, and very highly respected people Biden is appointing makes it clear there would not be a cabinet position for Sanders. Though he's no leader at all in the senate, self-sidelined for 30 years, that is the best place for him to serve.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
28. Joe is quite correct.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:46 PM
Nov 2020

We need every Democrat we can get, or keep, in the senate. Not much will happen without the senate. Best not to shoot ourselves in the foot.

James48

(4,437 posts)
29. After 2022 election.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:47 PM
Nov 2020

I’d love to see four or five seats flip to blue in 2022, and then Bernie can serve as Labor Secretary.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
30. As a Sanders 2016 and then Warren 2020 primary supporter I agree with Joe
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:49 PM
Nov 2020

They need to remain in the Senate a d do what they’ve been doing.

DFW

(54,425 posts)
31. Perfect way to phrase it
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 04:54 PM
Nov 2020

Stroke their egos, and effectively say "no way" without having to say it with negative overtones.

Joe gets it right--again.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
38. If you care about the country
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:03 PM
Nov 2020

you don't demand this. It's like they care more about Bernie and Elizabeth's ascent. Even Bernie and Elizabeth don't make these demands.

TygrBright

(20,763 posts)
41. Smart. And doesn't keep them from being tapped in a future reorganization.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:27 PM
Nov 2020

I suspect he won't want to do a lot of reorganizing as providing a stable, secure, reliable cabinet is important to start with, but after the midterms some reorganization is normal.

thoughtfully,
Bright

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
42. I agree with that decision 100%
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:27 PM
Nov 2020

Why take a risk at pulling their voices out of the Senate when we are so close to the Tipping Point.

Warren is a pillar of information. She is not going to be silent nor is Bernie. I trust that President Biden will select competent people to fill his administration.

crickets

(25,981 posts)
45. Agreed.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:36 PM
Nov 2020

We need every single Dem seat we have to stay filled as they are, with hope for more at the midterms.

marble falls

(57,144 posts)
46. And I agree. The Senate is where the fight will be taking place ...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:37 PM
Nov 2020

Losing Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth from the Senate was one of my biggest worries during Primaries. I was equally worried about losing Cory Booker as well.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
53. "We already have significant representation among progressives in our administration..."
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 05:51 PM
Nov 2020
'We already have significant representation among progressives in our administration,'
And so let's have an end to all the speculation and whining. Biden knows what he's doing. He knows what he wants. He won't be bullied or intimidated and he won't give in to arm-twisting or threats.

This will not be a "Bernie-light" or a "Warren-light" administration. It's the Biden administration. Joe's in charge. Joe makes the decisions. The voters chose Joe over all others during the primary for a reason. Sadly, I see the people are still grieving and still denying reality but they'll just have to do their very best to let it go and trust in Joe. We've had our primaries, our convention, the general election... and that's plenty of time to realize and understand and accept what the people want. Folks need to stop trying to undermine and kneecap Joe Biden (even before he's taken the oath of office).


Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
They're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & let's take back America!!



Basement Beat

(659 posts)
60. I agree with him about needing them both in the senate...
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 06:16 PM
Nov 2020

But I sure as hell haven't seen any "significant representation" yet. Which means it's not gonna get much progressive at all if that's the view.

Welp, not the most encouraging news but certainly light years beyond what we've seen in comparison to the unsightly growth currently in the white house.

Gore1FL

(21,146 posts)
69. They both need to be in the Senate to keep it at 50, assuming GA goes blue the rest of the way.
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:05 PM
Nov 2020

There are plenty of qualified liberals to choose from, however, and he needs to include several.

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