This doctor discovered the perfect way to deal with anti-vaxxer parents

[LiberalArkie]

For most of us, the idea of a Covid-19 vaccine feels like a light at the end of the tunnel.


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The writer explains they recounted this to the attending physician, who listened patiently while the woman listed “about 15 reasons why vaccines are more dangerous than the disease they protect against, in addition to the various evils of the pharmaceutical industry”.

When she was finished, the doctor apparently replied:

“Have you considered the possibility that anti-vaccine propaganda could be an attempt by the Russians or the Chinese to weaken the health of the United States population?”

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https://www.indy100.com/news/anti-vaxxer-doctor-conspiracy-theories-b1763295



Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/madlads/comments/k1hsul/i_was_not_expecting_this_to_happen/

[riversedge]

1. OMG--that is hilarious!! And who knows????

[niyad]

2. It is certainly a thought that has crossed my mind.

[Rebl2]

17. Same here

[Squinch]

3. Excellent idea. But I'm going to be controversial here and state that I have no intention of

being one of the first to receive whatever vaccine is rolled out.

I don't really trust the processes that went into these trials. All kinds of testing rules were relaxed to get these vaccines moving, and that could hide a multitude of sins.

And the recent news out of Astra Zeneca didn't do much to allay my fears.

If Biden's administration reviews and re-examines the safety of the vaccines and clears them for takeoff, I will feel differently. But as it stands now, I'll let all you guys get ahead of me in the line and reconsider 6 months or a year down the line.

[malaise]

5. Oh they'll find nice deceptive ways to test the Covid 19 vaccines on minorities

at home and abroad

[Squinch]

6. I totally agree.

[LiberalArkie]

8. Which fits perfectly with another conspiracy theory which goes like this:

The virus was created to kill off the non-white population.

But many of the researchers are racist so they test it on the non-whites and wait to see if it is ok.

Yes it works perfectly so they then give it to the few remaining white minority remaining.

[malaise]

9. I don't believe in Conspiracy Theories but I do know

that lots of experimental drugs have been used on my people. Much of this has been documented.

[LiberalArkie]

10. Yes, I know.. That is why I brought it up.

[womanofthehills]

21. I was following some Indian docs on Twitter - talking about how vaccines are often tested

in poor small towns of India.

[malaise]

23. It's always the poor

in most countries. Humans are evil.

[drmeow]

24. I'm at a university hospital

which is one of the locations where individuals are being enrolled in clinical trials for the vaccine. We were selected because our hospital has a relatively diverse clientele and the majority of the participants who had already enrolled in the trial when we joined were Caucasian.

Because of the horrific and disgusting historical use of minorities and other less powerful/non-white groups for medical research, it is actually very difficult to get people who are not white to enroll in clinical trials. Both historically and now, the vast majority of clinical research which is expected to have a potential benefit for the participants has been conducted primarily on white males - in the past by design and now due to the not unreasonable unwillingness of minorities to be participants.

However, unlike the past, there are now significant legal and cultural changes (especially since the 70's) which prevent the special inclusion or exclusion of any group unless scientifically justified (for example, Riley-Day syndrome affects almost exclusively Ashkenazi Jews so a clinical trial of a treatment for that syndrome would be allowed by a human subjects review board to restrict their enrollment to Ashkenazi Jews).

In terms of vaccines and treatments (things which are expected to benefit the people who receive them), one of the biggest problems in medicine is that they have only been tested on white males but get prescribed and used on the whole population.

Of all the clinical trials to take part in, anything having to do with COVID is less likely to be conducted in an unethical manner. First, there are plenty of willing participants out there - enrolling participants who do not meet the eligibility criteria is one of the biggest ethical problems in clinical research. Second, the whole world is watching - it is much easier to engage in unethical research practices when the research is not being watched by the entire world. The world isn't paying attention to the heart disease treatment study going on right now at my hospital because it doesn't literally affect everyone in the whole world. Third, COVID related clinical research is probably the only research in 50 years where cutting corners or faking anything has the potential to actually hurt the people who would be cutting the corners or faking anything.

Based on historical data, the reality is that since they are already at the safety and efficacy stage, any COVID vaccine is actually more likely to NOT be tested on minorities at all than to ONLY be tested on minorities.

[malaise]

25. Great post - should be an OP

[Ferrets are Cool]

4. Someone who knows how to do these things should start a

twitter or social media campaign stating this as a fact.

"Anti-vaccine propaganda IS an attempt by the Chinese to weaken the health of American population."

[no_hypocrisy]

7. Reverse psychology works on a lot of people.

It's subtle and sounds credible.

[BobTheSubgenius]

20. It is at least as credible as the wider anti-vax campaign.

This vaccine comes with more uncertainty than we are used to. "We" being normal adults that believe in medical science.

[Blues Heron]

11. also tell them the best way to defeat DeepStateSurveillance cameras

is by wearing a mask... heh

[pandr32]

15. LOL!

Good one!

[llashram]

12. for these type

low information, fox news only, people, hopefully, this type retort help them pull their heads out their asses.

[BannonsLiver]

13. Will be interesting to see what kind of anti vaxx tone this thread takes.

The one last week was rather, shall we say, illuminating.

[pandr32]

14. Ooh...I like it!

Hit them right in the middle of their cognitive dissonance.

[Initech]

16. My brother has called Child Protective Services on anti-vaxxer idiots.

That's one way to bring them back to reality!

[NewJeffCT]

18. I think the anti-vax message has been amplified

by Russia & Russian agents on social media.

[keithbvadu2]

19. As further 'proof', the Russians and Chinese are developing vaccines for their own countries.

As further 'proof', the Russians and Chinese are developing vaccines for their own countries.

[Digger]

22. Yes! And how about

Russia, China, Hillary and Obama to add even more punch?