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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWould you be willing to get a Covid vaccine in exchange for a $1,500 stimulus check?
Meanwhile, the U.S. government is preparing to distribute vaccinations to the American public in order to put an end to the public health crisis.
Now, one proposal aims to help both efforts by giving people $1,500 stimulus checks in exchange for getting immunized.
The idea comes from entrepreneur John Delaney, a former Democratic congressman for Maryland who also ran for president in 2020.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/03/1500-stimulus-checks-for-covid-19-shots-how-one-plan-would-work.html
Since a poll found that only 58% will want to get the vaccine this is a great idea!
sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)But MONEY?????
Fuck Yeah!!
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)It's a shame, but maybe it will take that to get people to get vaccinated, aka, receive the Mark of the Beast.
FBaggins
(26,753 posts)Id pay a reasonable amount to get the vaccine... why would someone need to pay me?
ProfessorGAC
(65,103 posts)So, the $1,500 has strings.
It's not getting paid to get vaccinated.
It's setting a price for refusing to do so.
LisaL
(44,974 posts)So sure I am willing to get it for 1,500.
pnwest
(3,266 posts)but Im not allergic to getting stimulated as well! Mitch better have my money! 🤣
roamer65
(36,745 posts)tinrobot
(10,905 posts)I think tying vaccination to payment sends the wrong message. Makes the vaccine seem like a negative.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Demsrule86
(68,617 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)if possible
wcmagumba
(2,886 posts)I'm poor as dirt on fixed income and could pay bills and get car repaired...
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)I am not holding my breath on it in general though, these were rushed and not 100% effective, which means some people still gonna get fubar'd by C-19!
MaryMagdaline
(6,855 posts)marie999
(3,334 posts)I am not getting the vaccine until I know it is safe.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)dawg day
(7,947 posts)But if they want to pay me, I'll be doubly happy.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But if a $1500 check gets the hesitant people to take the shot, then great. We need to get the number of vaccinated people well over 58%, or the vaccine won't stop the debacle that we are in.
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)To offer payment, implies there is a health risk to take the vaccine -- so you have to compensate for that health risk with $$. The *last* thing we need is another avenue that conspiracy theorists can go down.
Describe the vaccine, its known risks, its known benefits, and work hard to instill confidence in the general public to build trust in the vaccine.
This is going to be hard enough to administer to a few hundred million folks -- another conspiracy theory and having to track who is gaming the system trying to get multiple checks makes it even more difficult.
ProfessorGAC
(65,103 posts)This is NOT a plan to pay people for getting vaccinated.
It's setting a cost for not getting one.
Everybody gets $1,500. But if you don't get vaccinated you don't get it.
It's not an incentive to get the shot.
It's a penalty for refusing.
Pobeka
(4,999 posts)It's $$ for taking the shot. Why do we need the government to pay people? Sounds like the government is not convinced the vaccine is that safe if they have to pay you to take it, otherwise people would just flock to the vaccine centers in the first place. (I'm *not* promoting that idea, but worried it can be viewed that way).
From the article:
We have to create, in my judgment, an incentive for people to really accelerate their thinking about taking the vaccine, Delaney said.
That is clearly not a penalty for refusing to take it by the original sponser of the idea, it is a payment plan.
ProfessorGAC
(65,103 posts)He was on with either Keillar or Baldwin.
He used the word "disincentivize". As in, creating a disincentive to refuse the vaccination.
So, your quote and what I heard on are both sides of the same coin, I suppose.
He used " incentive " above, & the antonym on CNN.
I think the disincentive perspective can be easily marketed.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)it's pretty simple. $1500 if you get vaccinated. $0 if you don't.
I understand you want to put a nuance on it. But that nuance wont once last 5 minutes in the noise.
ProfessorGAC
(65,103 posts)I think it would be very easy to market "no vaccine, no stimulus check".
There is zero nuance in that message. No shot? No cash.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)to the anti-vaxx, the virus is a hoax, pro-Trump (tens of millions of people) crowd, they will NOT see it that way, and they're the ones who need to be convinced to take it. They will absolutely, positively, no doubt about it see it as proof of the conspiracy theory about the virus and the vaccine. I have zero doubt about this. And they'll use it to convince those near them who are ambivalent that there is something malevolent going on if they're paying you to take the vaccine. Because that's how it will be perceived and regurgitated.
ProfessorGAC
(65,103 posts)...I think you underestimate the motivation that is money.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)I doubt the message will get clearer in the wild.
Heck, look at how "defund the police" went over.
onecaliberal
(32,876 posts)In 6 months theyre only been able to produce 30 million doses.
Mosby
(16,324 posts)And thats just them.
onecaliberal
(32,876 posts)Why is there only 3 million doses?
ProfessorGAC
(65,103 posts)There's 3 million doses of the best result version. But, they weren't making just that variant over these months.
Given my background working with big manufacturing, I also believe their production forecast is based on capacity right now. I have little doubt they continue to negotiate for contract manufacturers to expand their capacity, but until a contract is signed, they don't include that in their forecast.
onecaliberal
(32,876 posts)FBaggins
(26,753 posts)The process takes a bit of time and it's actually unusual to begin months before the vaccine is through stage 3 testing.
Iwasthere
(3,168 posts)samnsara
(17,625 posts)Progressive dog
(6,906 posts)to act as if they were decent human beings.
Iggo
(47,561 posts)If we need to bribe them, then lets bribe them.
Were well past the shouldnt oughta hafta do that stage. Its time to get over the need to ask are people that stupid? They are.
Progressive dog
(6,906 posts)People who accept bribes are dishonest and won't keep up their end of the bargain.
Iggo
(47,561 posts)Progressive dog
(6,906 posts)them to. There is absolutely no reason to spend $475 billion dollars to get people to protect themselves and others. (assuming we give away $1500 per person). If we pay anyone, we'll have to pay everyone.
orangecrush
(19,585 posts)Without contracting Covid to get one.
Not a question of money.
El Supremo
(20,365 posts)And replace "you" with "others". Most of us don't want a bribe. But this idea was for the antivaxers who don't care about infecting other people. Would this be enough of a bribe for them to get the vaccine?
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)Simple not true. There are many reasons why someone may not want one.
Chainfire
(17,572 posts)take it for fifteen hundred dollars. That said, I will make myself available on the first day I am eligible to receive the shot.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,185 posts)two hiney cheeks, and I'm sure I can find four more places to stick a needle. I'll take ten, please. Just make the check payable to cash.
Nah, just kidding. I'd take it tomorrow, for free. But if they want to give me $1500 too, I won't turn it down.
shanti
(21,675 posts)but I can see some people taking the money. They're probably the same people who NEED to be vaccinated but will only do it for the money. But only after the second shot.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,080 posts)If I determine it is appropriate, I'll get one without regard to whehter it is tied to a stimulus check.
So far it is looking good for meeting my criteria: >50% effective, and peer reviewed studies determine it is safe. It seems that at least 2 vaccines meet the first criteria. When it gets closer to decision time, I'll see what's out there in terms of peer reviewed studies. I'm not seeing any barriers on that front - but more information will be available before I have to make my decision.
Initech
(100,088 posts)Though I'm getting it regardless of what the conspiracy theorists say!
Polybius
(15,461 posts)Baclava
(12,047 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I don't know but I'm sure I could sell something to come up with the money.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)I would pay for it though, so it goes without saying.
w100jmi
(97 posts)Free masks are given with the shot and a signature affidavit you agree to wear the mask to receive the stimulus. If caught without it, major fines.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)MineralMan
(146,320 posts)I don't need a bribe to do that. I will take the stimulus, though, without any complaints. But my vaccination doesn't depend on that in any way. I want to survive this pandemic, so I can see what Biden can accomplish.