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El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 08:42 PM Dec 2020

Would you be willing to get a Covid vaccine in exchange for a $1,500 stimulus check?

Millions of Americans are still hoping for a second round of stimulus checks to help them cope with the financial fallout of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Meanwhile, the U.S. government is preparing to distribute vaccinations to the American public in order to put an end to the public health crisis.

Now, one proposal aims to help both efforts by giving people $1,500 stimulus checks in exchange for getting immunized.

The idea comes from entrepreneur John Delaney, a former Democratic congressman for Maryland who also ran for president in 2020.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/03/1500-stimulus-checks-for-covid-19-shots-how-one-plan-would-work.html


Since a poll found that only 58% will want to get the vaccine this is a great idea!
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Would you be willing to get a Covid vaccine in exchange for a $1,500 stimulus check? (Original Post) El Supremo Dec 2020 OP
People Don't Give A Shit About Their Health Or The Health Of Others..... sfstaxprep Dec 2020 #1
Definitely. I'll get vaccinated regardless. LuvNewcastle Dec 2020 #2
Huh? FBaggins Dec 2020 #3
Likely Getting The $1,500 Anyway ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #19
I am willing to get it for free. LisaL Dec 2020 #4
Hells to the yeah! I'm going to anyway, pnwest Dec 2020 #5
Hell yeah. roamer65 Dec 2020 #6
Not a fan. In an ideal world, people would line up for it, regardless. tinrobot Dec 2020 #7
Yep sign me up for that money and vaccine! FloridaBlues Dec 2020 #8
I would get one no matter what. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #9
both please but the vaccine would do . I would take it next week demtenjeep Dec 2020 #10
Erm, yeah...I'll take two of each (first shot plus booster shot and thus two checks)... wcmagumba Dec 2020 #11
Yeah, I can hold out for the $.... Brainfodder Dec 2020 #12
Yes. Or for free MaryMagdaline Dec 2020 #13
I don't care what they will pay, marie999 Dec 2020 #14
It's going to take beyond next September so... that's a long time soothsayer Dec 2020 #15
I would pay that much to get a vaccine, actually. dawg day Dec 2020 #16
Honestly, I would pay to get the shots. Blue_true Dec 2020 #17
What a HORRIBLE idea. Pobeka Dec 2020 #18
Repeating Post 19 ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #20
From *my* point of view, it's a transaction. Pobeka Dec 2020 #24
That's Not How He Put It On CNN ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #39
that messaging will get lost fescuerescue Dec 2020 #30
Completely Disagree ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #40
Having been up close and personal... OneGrassRoot Dec 2020 #42
Your Experiences Notwithstanding... ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #46
Even in this small environment without outsides sources we disagree fescuerescue Dec 2020 #48
It will be at least 7 or 8 months before regular people will get the vaccine. onecaliberal Dec 2020 #21
Pfizer said they can produce 1.3 billion shots in 2021. Mosby Dec 2020 #27
I ready they've been making it the whole time it was in testing. onecaliberal Dec 2020 #29
I Read They Were Making Various Candidates ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #41
Good to know. Thanks for the info. onecaliberal Dec 2020 #49
They've been ramping up production FBaggins Dec 2020 #47
So what about all those in the country that have systems that don't allow vaccines safely? Iwasthere Dec 2020 #22
i expected them to tie the vaccine to social security checks or any other gvnt program assistance samnsara Dec 2020 #23
They shouldn't need to be bribed Progressive dog Dec 2020 #25
However, they do need to be bribed. Iggo Dec 2020 #51
Let's not bribe anyone. Progressive dog Dec 2020 #53
Let's get everyone vaccinated. Iggo Dec 2020 #55
The right way to get people vaccinated is by requiring Progressive dog Dec 2020 #56
I hope I live long enough orangecrush Dec 2020 #26
Alright. After reading all the responses. I need to amend the original question. El Supremo Dec 2020 #28
You are assuming that everyone who doesn't want the vaccine doesnt care about infecting others. Amaryllis Dec 2020 #35
If I did not believe in the vaccine, no, I wouldn't Chainfire Dec 2020 #31
Can I get more than one? Let's see, I've got two arms, two legs, Buns_of_Fire Dec 2020 #32
I'll take it for free, thankyouverymuch shanti Dec 2020 #33
If it was 70% effective, it might be a good idea. But it's 95% effective, so it is not necessary. Klaralven Dec 2020 #34
Nope. Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #36
Stick a needle in me!!!! Initech Dec 2020 #37
I'll get it once a week if they pay me $1,500 every time Polybius Dec 2020 #38
I'm right behind ya! Lets form the line, lol, I want my CHECK! Where's my CHECK? Baclava Dec 2020 #50
I'd *PAY* $1500 to get the vaccine. NurseJackie Dec 2020 #43
My mom wouldn't. joshcryer Dec 2020 #44
plus another $1,500 for wearing a mask w100jmi Dec 2020 #45
Nope. Autumn Dec 2020 #52
I'm getting the vaccine at my first opportunity. MineralMan Dec 2020 #54

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
2. Definitely. I'll get vaccinated regardless.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 08:46 PM
Dec 2020

It's a shame, but maybe it will take that to get people to get vaccinated, aka, receive the Mark of the Beast.

ProfessorGAC

(65,103 posts)
19. Likely Getting The $1,500 Anyway
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 09:16 PM
Dec 2020

So, the $1,500 has strings.
It's not getting paid to get vaccinated.
It's setting a price for refusing to do so.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
5. Hells to the yeah! I'm going to anyway,
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 08:49 PM
Dec 2020

but I’m not allergic to getting stimulated as well! Mitch better have my money! 🤣

tinrobot

(10,905 posts)
7. Not a fan. In an ideal world, people would line up for it, regardless.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 08:52 PM
Dec 2020

I think tying vaccination to payment sends the wrong message. Makes the vaccine seem like a negative.

wcmagumba

(2,886 posts)
11. Erm, yeah...I'll take two of each (first shot plus booster shot and thus two checks)...
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 08:54 PM
Dec 2020

I'm poor as dirt on fixed income and could pay bills and get car repaired...

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
12. Yeah, I can hold out for the $....
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 08:59 PM
Dec 2020

I am not holding my breath on it in general though, these were rushed and not 100% effective, which means some people still gonna get fubar'd by C-19!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. Honestly, I would pay to get the shots.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 09:13 PM
Dec 2020

But if a $1500 check gets the hesitant people to take the shot, then great. We need to get the number of vaccinated people well over 58%, or the vaccine won't stop the debacle that we are in.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
18. What a HORRIBLE idea.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 09:13 PM
Dec 2020

To offer payment, implies there is a health risk to take the vaccine -- so you have to compensate for that health risk with $$. The *last* thing we need is another avenue that conspiracy theorists can go down.

Describe the vaccine, its known risks, its known benefits, and work hard to instill confidence in the general public to build trust in the vaccine.

This is going to be hard enough to administer to a few hundred million folks -- another conspiracy theory and having to track who is gaming the system trying to get multiple checks makes it even more difficult.

ProfessorGAC

(65,103 posts)
20. Repeating Post 19
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 09:19 PM
Dec 2020

This is NOT a plan to pay people for getting vaccinated.
It's setting a cost for not getting one.
Everybody gets $1,500. But if you don't get vaccinated you don't get it.
It's not an incentive to get the shot.
It's a penalty for refusing.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
24. From *my* point of view, it's a transaction.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 09:48 PM
Dec 2020

It's $$ for taking the shot. Why do we need the government to pay people? Sounds like the government is not convinced the vaccine is that safe if they have to pay you to take it, otherwise people would just flock to the vaccine centers in the first place. (I'm *not* promoting that idea, but worried it can be viewed that way).

From the article:


“We have to create, in my judgment, an incentive for people to really accelerate their thinking about taking the vaccine,” Delaney said.


That is clearly not a penalty for refusing to take it by the original sponser of the idea, it is a payment plan.

ProfessorGAC

(65,103 posts)
39. That's Not How He Put It On CNN
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 07:44 AM
Dec 2020

He was on with either Keillar or Baldwin.
He used the word "disincentivize". As in, creating a disincentive to refuse the vaccination.
So, your quote and what I heard on are both sides of the same coin, I suppose.
He used " incentive " above, & the antonym on CNN.
I think the disincentive perspective can be easily marketed.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
30. that messaging will get lost
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 10:25 PM
Dec 2020

it's pretty simple. $1500 if you get vaccinated. $0 if you don't.

I understand you want to put a nuance on it. But that nuance wont once last 5 minutes in the noise.

ProfessorGAC

(65,103 posts)
40. Completely Disagree
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 07:46 AM
Dec 2020

I think it would be very easy to market "no vaccine, no stimulus check".
There is zero nuance in that message. No shot? No cash.

OneGrassRoot

(22,920 posts)
42. Having been up close and personal...
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 08:17 AM
Dec 2020

to the anti-vaxx, the virus is a hoax, pro-Trump (tens of millions of people) crowd, they will NOT see it that way, and they're the ones who need to be convinced to take it. They will absolutely, positively, no doubt about it see it as proof of the conspiracy theory about the virus and the vaccine. I have zero doubt about this. And they'll use it to convince those near them who are ambivalent that there is something malevolent going on if they're paying you to take the vaccine. Because that's how it will be perceived and regurgitated.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
48. Even in this small environment without outsides sources we disagree
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 09:12 AM
Dec 2020

I doubt the message will get clearer in the wild.

Heck, look at how "defund the police" went over.

onecaliberal

(32,876 posts)
21. It will be at least 7 or 8 months before regular people will get the vaccine.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 09:38 PM
Dec 2020

In 6 months they’re only been able to produce 30 million doses.

onecaliberal

(32,876 posts)
29. I ready they've been making it the whole time it was in testing.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 10:20 PM
Dec 2020

Why is there only 3 million doses?

ProfessorGAC

(65,103 posts)
41. I Read They Were Making Various Candidates
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 07:50 AM
Dec 2020

There's 3 million doses of the best result version. But, they weren't making just that variant over these months.
Given my background working with big manufacturing, I also believe their production forecast is based on capacity right now. I have little doubt they continue to negotiate for contract manufacturers to expand their capacity, but until a contract is signed, they don't include that in their forecast.

FBaggins

(26,753 posts)
47. They've been ramping up production
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 08:29 AM
Dec 2020

The process takes a bit of time and it's actually unusual to begin months before the vaccine is through stage 3 testing.

Iggo

(47,561 posts)
51. However, they do need to be bribed.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:10 PM
Dec 2020

If we need to bribe them, then let’s bribe them.

We’re well past the “shouldn’t oughta hafta do that” stage. It’s time to get over the need to ask “are people that stupid?” They are.

Progressive dog

(6,906 posts)
53. Let's not bribe anyone.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:29 PM
Dec 2020

People who accept bribes are dishonest and won't keep up their end of the bargain.

Progressive dog

(6,906 posts)
56. The right way to get people vaccinated is by requiring
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 05:05 PM
Dec 2020

them to. There is absolutely no reason to spend $475 billion dollars to get people to protect themselves and others. (assuming we give away $1500 per person). If we pay anyone, we'll have to pay everyone.

El Supremo

(20,365 posts)
28. Alright. After reading all the responses. I need to amend the original question.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 10:16 PM
Dec 2020

And replace "you" with "others". Most of us don't want a bribe. But this idea was for the antivaxers who don't care about infecting other people. Would this be enough of a bribe for them to get the vaccine?

Amaryllis

(9,525 posts)
35. You are assuming that everyone who doesn't want the vaccine doesnt care about infecting others.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 11:15 PM
Dec 2020

Simple not true. There are many reasons why someone may not want one.

Chainfire

(17,572 posts)
31. If I did not believe in the vaccine, no, I wouldn't
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 10:39 PM
Dec 2020

take it for fifteen hundred dollars. That said, I will make myself available on the first day I am eligible to receive the shot.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,185 posts)
32. Can I get more than one? Let's see, I've got two arms, two legs,
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 10:55 PM
Dec 2020

two hiney cheeks, and I'm sure I can find four more places to stick a needle. I'll take ten, please. Just make the check payable to cash.

Nah, just kidding. I'd take it tomorrow, for free. But if they want to give me $1500 too, I won't turn it down.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
33. I'll take it for free, thankyouverymuch
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 11:14 PM
Dec 2020

but I can see some people taking the money. They're probably the same people who NEED to be vaccinated but will only do it for the money. But only after the second shot.

Ms. Toad

(34,080 posts)
36. Nope.
Thu Dec 3, 2020, 11:17 PM
Dec 2020

If I determine it is appropriate, I'll get one without regard to whehter it is tied to a stimulus check.

So far it is looking good for meeting my criteria: >50% effective, and peer reviewed studies determine it is safe. It seems that at least 2 vaccines meet the first criteria. When it gets closer to decision time, I'll see what's out there in terms of peer reviewed studies. I'm not seeing any barriers on that front - but more information will be available before I have to make my decision.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
43. I'd *PAY* $1500 to get the vaccine.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 08:20 AM
Dec 2020

I don't know but I'm sure I could sell something to come up with the money.

w100jmi

(97 posts)
45. plus another $1,500 for wearing a mask
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 08:27 AM
Dec 2020

Free masks are given with the shot and a signature affidavit you agree to wear the mask to receive the stimulus. If caught without it, major fines.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
54. I'm getting the vaccine at my first opportunity.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:38 PM
Dec 2020

I don't need a bribe to do that. I will take the stimulus, though, without any complaints. But my vaccination doesn't depend on that in any way. I want to survive this pandemic, so I can see what Biden can accomplish.

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