Q: Are there paper ballots in Georgia?

[lindysalsagal]

[we can do it]

1. What else would you mail in?

[Demsrule86]

2. Yes...

[tinrobot]

3. Yes, thanks to COVID they're doing more absentee/mail-in.

[dawg]

4. The voting machines generate paper receipts.

You look over the paper receipt, and then turn it in to be scanned.

[lindysalsagal]

6. THANKYOU!!!

Whew! That means the gop can't just rig it outright. This WILL be recounted, I'm sure.

[diva77]

10. Correction: the machines generate what is considered the ballot of record - not receipts

Here is a letter from the OSET Institute, which represents 60 cyber security experts, from Feb 2019 explaining that the BMDs (the voting machines used by GA at voting centers) print a barcode which cannot be verified by the voter, therefore there is no way to determine whether your vote gets counted as cast:

https://coaltionforgoodgovernance.sharefile.com/share/view/s50df87116694495b

[dawg]

11. Yes, but in a hand recount situation the voters' choices can be compared to the machine count ...

which is exactly what has happend now, about eleventy-billion times. The process seems to have worked smoothly and there is no indication that any votes were switched.

[diva77]

12. please have a look at this post - important info to understand what these machines can do

https://democraticunderground.com/100214652246

[dawg]

13. I have first hand experience with these machines.

They are auditable.

My choices were clearly indicated on the ballot that printed out. If the barcode manged to flip my vote, that would have been detectable by the hand-counted audit that took place immediately after the election.

We have had to struggle now - twice - to have sufficient Democratic observers for these recounts. It has been a difficulty. But the process appears to have worked properly.

[diva77]

14. The machines only have to print enough incorrect ballots to swing an election -- and since 93% of

people don't check the printout, a simple calculation can determine how many ballots to print incorrectly. People are blaming down ticket losses on "defund the police" while completely ignoring, for example, the ability of these machines to manipulate election results.

This is why it is CRITICAL for every GA voter to check the printout before submitting their vote. If the printout is incorrect, they should ask to recast their vote.

[NewJeffCT]

5. I believe there are paper ballots that are fed into the voting machines

because I think I recall the Georga SoS talking about matching them to the vote count for each machine in each precinct

[lindysalsagal]

7. Every damn state should have countable paper results. Period.

[diva77]

8. They have vote by mail (hand marked paper ballots) & "vote" by machine at voting centers this time

If you vote on a machine at a voting center, please have a look at this post from yesterday - EXTREMELY important:

https://democraticunderground.com/100214652246