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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNeed your input: I need a computer person to upgrade my computer so I can zoom with family.
My desk top computer is in a small room with two windows which I can open, plus a small fan that I can run right from my computer desk.
Do you think it is OK to have a computer expert come in to do the job? I have disinfectant spray I can use before and after his visit, so that is no problem. I would go into a nearby room while the work is going on.
We are elderly. Can we safely do this with an outside person if we disinfect the desk top computer, mouse, keys, chair before and after h/she comes?
Edit to add: And of course, we will all wear masks!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,783 posts)Open some windows, stay at least 6' away from the person when you're talking to them (and you would also be wearing a mask), and I'd even consider leaving the house altogether while they are working and talk to them on the phone if necessary. The biggest risk comes from breathing other people's air and much less from surfaces, but disinfect afterwards anyhow.
hlthe2b
(102,320 posts)out of the room while they are there and increase ventilation as much as possible, your risk will be dramatically diminished. If you must remain in the house with them there, wear a mask until after he has left and you have aired out the room and disinfected.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)that purpose!
samnsara
(17,625 posts)..better yet have the kids buy mom and dad one for Christmas! I like them because you can do 'drop in' calls..meaning you can call them (but they still have to answer)..but its quicker than setting up zoom time.
But....yes you can have a person safely at your house. I dont let anyone in but yesterday we had to let the satellite people in and all were masked up and wore paper booties.
EarlG
(21,958 posts)You can either download Zoom for free, or you can just use the application directly through your web browser without downloading anything.
Most webcams these days you should be able to take out of the box, plug the USB cable into your computer, and it will just work.
So you may not need an expert to do the setup, if you're concerned about having someone in the house...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)ordered/sent? That's good!
EarlG
(21,958 posts)With this type of camera, you clip it on top of your monitor, plug it into a free USB port, and the computer should detect it all by itself. It has a built in a microphone that would also be detected.
Then you could just go to the Zoom website to join a meeting that your family has set up.
That's in theory of course -- in the real world, you may run into some hiccups getting it set up. But the setup is very straightforward and if it works as intended you wouldn't need someone to come into the house to do it for you.
(Edited to add: I just saw below that you're not sure how old your operating system is. The camera I linked to will work with Windows 7 or later. If you have an earlier OS than Windows 7, I would not recommend this route -- see some other people's suggestions, like getting a tablet or Chromebook.)
put a KN95 mask and pair of nitrile gloves on your front porch, instruct them to mask / glove before entering... let them work by themselves, and leave with the mask and gloves still on.
disinfect the room with alcohol wipes.
42bambi
(1,753 posts)way you wouldn't have to have anyone come in.
I would try this first - then if not, have someone come in. Follow the instructions ... I hope this helps.
https://zoom.us
or
https://zoom.us/support/download
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)so he needs the computer upgraded to Windows 10.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)It might be cheaper to just buy a new computer than pay for Windows 10 license and the technician to come to your house.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)"
Supported operating systems
macOS X with macOS 10.9 or later
Windows 10*
Note: Devices running Windows 10 must run Windows 10 Home, Pro, or Enterprise. S Mode is not supported.
Windows 8 or 8.1
Windows 7
Ubuntu 12.04 or higher
Mint 17.1 or higher
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 or higher
Oracle Linux 6.4 or higher
CentOS 6.4 or higher
Fedora 21 or higher
OpenSUSE 13.2 or higher
ArchLinux (64-bit only)
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System requirements
An internet connection broadband wired or wireless (3G or 4G/LTE)
Speakers and a microphone built-in, USB plug-in, or wireless Bluetooth
A webcam or HD webcam - built-in, USB plug-in, or:
An HD cam or HD camcorder with a video-capture card
Note: See the list of supported devices.
Virtual camera software for use with broadcasting software like OBS or IP cameras
Note: For macOS, Zoom client 5.1.1 or higher is required.
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ALSO - works on an android devices!
Might work ON A PHONE TOO! HA!
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362023-System-Requirements-for-PC-Mac-and-Linux?mobile_site=true
AmericanCanuck
(1,102 posts)And .. stay at least 6 feet away most of the time.
Give them a credit card number ahead of time and have them email you the invoice.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)debit card all the time (I have a little bottle of Purell purse size!).
Demsrule86
(68,620 posts)An old computer can only be upgraded so much...also you need good bandwidth.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)What are the specs?
Maybe you just need to add a USB webcam? They can run pretty cheap. That might be your cheapest bet if your PC isn't ancient.
Is your housecall upgrade tech is gonna run a couple of hundred dollars, maybe you could just get a cheaper laptop with a webcam built in. Staples has sales on those every week.
Oh, I think the echo show might support zoom meetings too.
I have an echo show 8, but I haven't tried it.
Maybe I should.
I'll try and get back to ya!
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)It is looking like I will need him/her to come in two trips. One to look at my desk top computer to see if it is usable and then another to set up with the new computer.
If you do have a chance to try your system I would appreciate it. You can PM me here at DU. And THANK YOU for being so kind to offer this help!
KPN
(15,647 posts)or smartphone easily. You could probably get a pretty good chromebook laptop for under $200. Bringing someone into your house to set your existing computer up with Zoom may actually cost just as much (especially if you need to buy a minicam for your desktop). If you dont personally know the person who would be providing the service, why take the risk? You dont know anything about other houses he/she may have been in the past few days or more, or their habits regarding COVID safeguards. Id go with a cheap new computer or cellphone before Id take that risk.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)which she couldn't do. She would be perfect to help us out except for one thing: her English is quite difficult to understand. However, she and her husband are the most generous and helpful people I've ever met! They are from Saudi Arabia and they are wonderful neighbors to have.
Boxerfan
(2,533 posts)Tablets are fairly cheap and you can find a decent 10" for under $100.00 delivered by Amazon if you have that. Has a great camera probably & it has updated stuff to make new tasks easier. And pretty much made for Zoom.
I don't have a cellphone because I dislike them. But I find I need a tablet to scan QR codes & watch video's etc...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I'll look on Amazon for a tablet. Thanks!
OverBurn
(955 posts)I work on and built computers as a hobby. I recommend tablets for most everyone, unless they specifically need a PC for something. Get whatever your phone is, Apple or Android.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Withywindle
(9,988 posts)You can find tutorial videos to help you set it up. You'll save money in the long run and won't have the worry of someone else coming in your house.
Tetrachloride
(7,863 posts)1. drape a couple sheets of Saran Wrap over the keyboard , screen and any mouse of the computer.
2. an iPad might be more suitable for taking around the house.
OhZone
(3,212 posts)So - there's that!
Ms. Toad
(34,082 posts)If the purifier cycles around 4 times an hour for an apropriately sized room it removes 90+% of the airborne virus.
We have occasional need to allow someone into our home (our daughter has a homeless friend - so we use it to allow him to shower occasionally). We exhaust the bathroom air directly to the outside for the duration of the shower and until most of the fog has cleared, then we run a 200 sq.ft room purifier in the 50 sq. ft. bathroom for at least an hour.
You could do something similar in your computer room - use the windows to do the outside exhaust while the expert is there, then run the purifier for an hour or so to rmove as much of any leftover virus as you can.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,082 posts)so I had to do some research.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)malaise
(269,103 posts)Just my suggestion