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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:18 PM Dec 2020

Need your input: I need a computer person to upgrade my computer so I can zoom with family.

My desk top computer is in a small room with two windows which I can open, plus a small fan that I can run right from my computer desk.

Do you think it is OK to have a computer expert come in to do the job? I have disinfectant spray I can use before and after his visit, so that is no problem. I would go into a nearby room while the work is going on.

We are elderly. Can we safely do this with an outside person if we disinfect the desk top computer, mouse, keys, chair before and after h/she comes?

Edit to add: And of course, we will all wear masks!

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Need your input: I need a computer person to upgrade my computer so I can zoom with family. (Original Post) CTyankee Dec 2020 OP
Be sure the person wears a mask the entire time they are in your house. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2020 #1
As long as they wear masks continually, you disinfect afterwards (all surfaces), remain hlthe2b Dec 2020 #2
Yes, I did that with a plumber recently. I have a package of masks from my pharmacy for just CTyankee Dec 2020 #21
order your family an echo show..then get one for yourself. Its so much easier than zoom... samnsara Dec 2020 #3
Zoom is free software, so all you should need is a webcam EarlG Dec 2020 #4
OK. I will give a call to Staples to get what you are referring to. So the camera can just be CTyankee Dec 2020 #24
I just googled "usb webcam" and this came up at Staples as an example of what you could consider EarlG Dec 2020 #31
yes lapfog_1 Dec 2020 #5
You may be able to download Zoom, that 42bambi Dec 2020 #6
The OP may be running an oler version of Windows AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #8
Yes. I don't think we have Windows 10. CTyankee Dec 2020 #11
If your computer is very old, it may not take Windows 10 AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #13
I don't think you need win10 - OhZone Dec 2020 #14
Make sure both you and the visitor wear a mask at all times. AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #7
good thinking about the CC ahead of time. However, that could be problematic. I spray my CTyankee Dec 2020 #12
Buy a new computer would be my advice or a laptop...you can get great deals on Ebay. Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #9
How old is your puter? OhZone Dec 2020 #10
I don't mind going to Staples but I really don't have room for it, plus yet another thing to learn! CTyankee Dec 2020 #16
I'm 70 next month. If it were me, I wouldn't. Zoom is free and can be downloaded onto a computer KPN Dec 2020 #15
Zoon is already downloaded. I had a neighbor help me get my granddaughter's graduation CTyankee Dec 2020 #18
Cheaper / safer way-buy a tablet Boxerfan Dec 2020 #17
Yep. I'm ashamed to admit that I don't use my cell phone either and it's the one for old folks! CTyankee Dec 2020 #19
Yes to a tablet! OverBurn Dec 2020 #23
I will look at the tablet choices. Sounds like a good thing for what I need! CTyankee Dec 2020 #27
I think this is the best solution Withywindle Dec 2020 #25
Two ideas: Saran Wrap and/or an iPad Tetrachloride Dec 2020 #20
Just put Zoom on one of my phones! OhZone Dec 2020 #22
Get an air purifier with a HEPA filter to .3 microns. Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #26
I'll look into my options on the air purifier. Thanks for the setting detail. Will do. CTyankee Dec 2020 #28
I, unfortuately, have people in my home who aren't being safe - Ms. Toad Dec 2020 #32
Not good, but you have very much helped me. I didn't know where to start. Now I do! Thanks! CTyankee Dec 2020 #33
Why don't you take the computer to be upgraded and wait for it in your car malaise Dec 2020 #29
I could if I have a mobile desk top. That just might be the best idea! CTyankee Dec 2020 #30

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,783 posts)
1. Be sure the person wears a mask the entire time they are in your house.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:22 PM
Dec 2020

Open some windows, stay at least 6' away from the person when you're talking to them (and you would also be wearing a mask), and I'd even consider leaving the house altogether while they are working and talk to them on the phone if necessary. The biggest risk comes from breathing other people's air and much less from surfaces, but disinfect afterwards anyhow.

hlthe2b

(102,320 posts)
2. As long as they wear masks continually, you disinfect afterwards (all surfaces), remain
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:27 PM
Dec 2020

out of the room while they are there and increase ventilation as much as possible, your risk will be dramatically diminished. If you must remain in the house with them there, wear a mask until after he has left and you have aired out the room and disinfected.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
21. Yes, I did that with a plumber recently. I have a package of masks from my pharmacy for just
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Dec 2020

that purpose!

samnsara

(17,625 posts)
3. order your family an echo show..then get one for yourself. Its so much easier than zoom...
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:28 PM
Dec 2020

..better yet have the kids buy mom and dad one for Christmas! I like them because you can do 'drop in' calls..meaning you can call them (but they still have to answer)..but its quicker than setting up zoom time.

But....yes you can have a person safely at your house. I dont let anyone in but yesterday we had to let the satellite people in and all were masked up and wore paper booties.

EarlG

(21,958 posts)
4. Zoom is free software, so all you should need is a webcam
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:28 PM
Dec 2020

You can either download Zoom for free, or you can just use the application directly through your web browser without downloading anything.

Most webcams these days you should be able to take out of the box, plug the USB cable into your computer, and it will just work.

So you may not need an expert to do the setup, if you're concerned about having someone in the house...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. OK. I will give a call to Staples to get what you are referring to. So the camera can just be
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:00 PM
Dec 2020

ordered/sent? That's good!

EarlG

(21,958 posts)
31. I just googled "usb webcam" and this came up at Staples as an example of what you could consider
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:19 PM
Dec 2020
https://tinyurl.com/y64wsk3r

With this type of camera, you clip it on top of your monitor, plug it into a free USB port, and the computer should detect it all by itself. It has a built in a microphone that would also be detected.

Then you could just go to the Zoom website to join a meeting that your family has set up.

That's in theory of course -- in the real world, you may run into some hiccups getting it set up. But the setup is very straightforward and if it works as intended you wouldn't need someone to come into the house to do it for you.

(Edited to add: I just saw below that you're not sure how old your operating system is. The camera I linked to will work with Windows 7 or later. If you have an earlier OS than Windows 7, I would not recommend this route -- see some other people's suggestions, like getting a tablet or Chromebook.)

lapfog_1

(29,215 posts)
5. yes
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:28 PM
Dec 2020

put a KN95 mask and pair of nitrile gloves on your front porch, instruct them to mask / glove before entering... let them work by themselves, and leave with the mask and gloves still on.

disinfect the room with alcohol wipes.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
6. You may be able to download Zoom, that
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:29 PM
Dec 2020

way you wouldn't have to have anyone come in.
I would try this first - then if not, have someone come in. Follow the instructions ... I hope this helps.

https://zoom.us

or

https://zoom.us/support/download

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
13. If your computer is very old, it may not take Windows 10
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:41 PM
Dec 2020

It might be cheaper to just buy a new computer than pay for Windows 10 license and the technician to come to your house.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
14. I don't think you need win10 -
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:42 PM
Dec 2020

"
Supported operating systems

macOS X with macOS 10.9 or later
Windows 10*
Note: Devices running Windows 10 must run Windows 10 Home, Pro, or Enterprise. S Mode is not supported.
Windows 8 or 8.1
Windows 7
Ubuntu 12.04 or higher
Mint 17.1 or higher
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6.4 or higher
Oracle Linux 6.4 or higher
CentOS 6.4 or higher
Fedora 21 or higher
OpenSUSE 13.2 or higher
ArchLinux (64-bit only)
"

"
System requirements

An internet connection – broadband wired or wireless (3G or 4G/LTE)
Speakers and a microphone – built-in, USB plug-in, or wireless Bluetooth
A webcam or HD webcam - built-in, USB plug-in, or:
An HD cam or HD camcorder with a video-capture card
Note: See the list of supported devices.
Virtual camera software for use with broadcasting software like OBS or IP cameras
Note: For macOS, Zoom client 5.1.1 or higher is required.

"

ALSO - works on an android devices!

Might work ON A PHONE TOO! HA!



https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362023-System-Requirements-for-PC-Mac-and-Linux?mobile_site=true
 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
7. Make sure both you and the visitor wear a mask at all times.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:30 PM
Dec 2020

And .. stay at least 6 feet away most of the time.

Give them a credit card number ahead of time and have them email you the invoice.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
12. good thinking about the CC ahead of time. However, that could be problematic. I spray my
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:41 PM
Dec 2020

debit card all the time (I have a little bottle of Purell purse size!).

Demsrule86

(68,620 posts)
9. Buy a new computer would be my advice or a laptop...you can get great deals on Ebay.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:32 PM
Dec 2020

An old computer can only be upgraded so much...also you need good bandwidth.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
10. How old is your puter?
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:34 PM
Dec 2020

What are the specs?

Maybe you just need to add a USB webcam? They can run pretty cheap. That might be your cheapest bet if your PC isn't ancient.

Is your housecall upgrade tech is gonna run a couple of hundred dollars, maybe you could just get a cheaper laptop with a webcam built in. Staples has sales on those every week.

Oh, I think the echo show might support zoom meetings too.

I have an echo show 8, but I haven't tried it.

Maybe I should.

I'll try and get back to ya!

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
16. I don't mind going to Staples but I really don't have room for it, plus yet another thing to learn!
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:45 PM
Dec 2020

It is looking like I will need him/her to come in two trips. One to look at my desk top computer to see if it is usable and then another to set up with the new computer.

If you do have a chance to try your system I would appreciate it. You can PM me here at DU. And THANK YOU for being so kind to offer this help!

KPN

(15,647 posts)
15. I'm 70 next month. If it were me, I wouldn't. Zoom is free and can be downloaded onto a computer
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:43 PM
Dec 2020

or smartphone easily. You could probably get a pretty good chromebook laptop for under $200. Bringing someone into your house to set your existing computer up with Zoom may actually cost just as much (especially if you need to buy a minicam for your desktop). If you don’t personally know the person who would be providing the service, why take the risk? You don’t know anything about other houses he/she may have been in the past few days or more, or their habits regarding COVID safeguards. I’d go with a cheap new computer or cellphone before I’d take that risk.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
18. Zoon is already downloaded. I had a neighbor help me get my granddaughter's graduation
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:51 PM
Dec 2020

which she couldn't do. She would be perfect to help us out except for one thing: her English is quite difficult to understand. However, she and her husband are the most generous and helpful people I've ever met! They are from Saudi Arabia and they are wonderful neighbors to have.

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
17. Cheaper / safer way-buy a tablet
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:49 PM
Dec 2020

Tablets are fairly cheap and you can find a decent 10" for under $100.00 delivered by Amazon if you have that. Has a great camera probably & it has updated stuff to make new tasks easier. And pretty much made for Zoom.

I don't have a cellphone because I dislike them. But I find I need a tablet to scan QR codes & watch video's etc...

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
19. Yep. I'm ashamed to admit that I don't use my cell phone either and it's the one for old folks!
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:53 PM
Dec 2020

I'll look on Amazon for a tablet. Thanks!

OverBurn

(955 posts)
23. Yes to a tablet!
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:00 PM
Dec 2020

I work on and built computers as a hobby. I recommend tablets for most everyone, unless they specifically need a PC for something. Get whatever your phone is, Apple or Android.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
25. I think this is the best solution
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:00 PM
Dec 2020

You can find tutorial videos to help you set it up. You'll save money in the long run and won't have the worry of someone else coming in your house.

Tetrachloride

(7,863 posts)
20. Two ideas: Saran Wrap and/or an iPad
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 02:56 PM
Dec 2020

1. drape a couple sheets of Saran Wrap over the keyboard , screen and any mouse of the computer.

2. an iPad might be more suitable for taking around the house.

Ms. Toad

(34,082 posts)
26. Get an air purifier with a HEPA filter to .3 microns.
Fri Dec 4, 2020, 03:03 PM
Dec 2020

If the purifier cycles around 4 times an hour for an apropriately sized room it removes 90+% of the airborne virus.

We have occasional need to allow someone into our home (our daughter has a homeless friend - so we use it to allow him to shower occasionally). We exhaust the bathroom air directly to the outside for the duration of the shower and until most of the fog has cleared, then we run a 200 sq.ft room purifier in the 50 sq. ft. bathroom for at least an hour.

You could do something similar in your computer room - use the windows to do the outside exhaust while the expert is there, then run the purifier for an hour or so to rmove as much of any leftover virus as you can.

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