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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy did Barr sour on Trump?
Did he find out something that disgusted even him?
--Selling pardons? (Barr could have listened to the wiretapped conversations DoJ made between Trump and others.)
--Collusion with Russia? (Durham could have told him of his findings.)
Whatever it was, it was enough of a shock to Barr that even he balked at blindly supporting Trump by saying the DoJ has no indication of wide-spread voter fraud.
Maybe it was more personal. Did Trump push him too far or disparage him in front of DoJ employees? Did Trump say Catholicism was for suckers and losers?
It must have been something monumental to turn this toady into half-man.
What do you think?
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Merlot
(9,696 posts)My guess is he didn't want to be implicated in something really dirty.
Thekaspervote
(32,787 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,685 posts)Trump will never really return loyalty. He only expects and receives it.
Now Barr is out there flapping in the breeze staring down accountability for the biggest cover up in US History for what he did to the Mueller report.
LeftInTX
(25,490 posts)Barr hasn't left yet
He can still do plenty of damage
TheRealNorth
(9,497 posts)Trump wanted Barr to go farther then he was willing to go. Likely Barr knew whatever Trumo had planned wouldn't work and he (Barr) would go be at risk of getting criminally charged once Biden takes office.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)visited him at night to talk about the chains he forged?
That actually would be a fun skit.
KPN
(15,647 posts)colluding with a foreign government to sway (steal) a Presidential election, thats another thing.
Blue Owl
(50,482 posts)tinrobot
(10,913 posts)Barr is smart enough to see the writing on the wall. No need to commit more felonies.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,786 posts)That is Trump's M.O.
I still despise Barr. He faces investigations himself for running Doh unethically. I doubt Trump will be pardoning him for going against him.
gab13by13
(21,379 posts)a bridge that was even too far to cross for him. I then imagine that trump called Barr every name in the book and went nutzo on him.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)Then as the election happened it became clear, he lost. It might have been at that point that Barr refused to do things that were illegal or borderline. The example of saying the DOJ saw no widespread fraud happened after it was clear Biden won.
The motivation could be self preservation or that supporting Trump in just ignoring a legitimate election was a step too far as it clearly is a traitorous action.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)For his "legacy" and all.
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)when he is tried for his many crimes committed as AG.
He knows it is coming!
PCIntern
(25,572 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)he is being thrown under the bus
C_U_L8R
(45,014 posts)It's clear Trump is done. Barr can extract no more profit.
AnnaLee
(1,041 posts)Trump is no long a pawn in Barr's agenda if Trump no longer has power to use as a backdrop for advancing Barr's worldview.
If you think Trump needed and used Barr, I think you have it backward.
Hotler
(11,440 posts)Andy823
(11,495 posts)he could be cutting a deal to make sure he doesn't go to jail! He knows trump only cares about himself, and will throw him under the bus in a heart beat.
nuxvomica
(12,437 posts)I think Barr was tasked with infiltrating the administration by a Russian oligarch client to stabilize the situation. Remember how, out of the blue, Barr wrote a 40-page love letter to reel Trump in? With the election over and Trump out of power, I think Barr's been told to let it all slide.
ScratchCat
(2,002 posts)I'm not going to 100% agree that it was a Russian oligarch, but "whoever" was behind Barr writing the op-ed and decided that Barr had to act as cover for Trump, decided they were done with Trump. Its likely because he lost and "they" told Barr to hold that interview and say there was no fraud because the country would be over if they seriously tried to overturn the results.
nuxvomica
(12,437 posts)Written on June 8, 2018 and it was supporting Trump against Mueller's claim of obstruction. But it was an odd thing to do and appeared to be an attempt to ingratiate himself with Trump. Barr had financial and client connections with a variety of Russian interests that raised concerns he should recuse himself from any oversight in the Mueller investigation so I'm figuring someone an arms-length from Putin may have been his client.
We worried that the AG was acting as Trump's personal lawyer and I think he wasn't, but he certainly wasn't acting as the country's. I think we can agree on that.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,426 posts)My thought is that he just couldn't come up with anything that he was willing to bring up in front of the Court without possibly facing legal sanctions. He already got pretty burned by the attempts to drop the criminal case against Flynn (before the pardon)
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)I think Barr despises Trump and everything he stands for. Yes, Barr is a Republican and doesnt hide it. Yes, Barr has pissed off scores of staff attorneys and Democrats. But, after you push past the obvious Trump ass kissing Barr does, the DOJ is still holding as an institution not destroyed by Trump.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Barr did everything he could to enable Trumpasss law breaking, but it still wasnt enough as far as the orange turd was concerned
peggysue2
(10,836 posts)I'd bet self-preservation was at the top of the list. Barr was the one to quote 'history is written by the victors,' a quip often attributed to Churchill, Goring and a host of others throughout history.
But he was pretty smug and confident when he said it. Now? Not so much.
Maybe stealing a presidential election was one step too far, even for a toady like Barr. Or maybe he discovered something that could snare his own future in a net of criminality.
I certainly won't be sad to see him waddle out the door.
dlk
(11,574 posts)He sees the writing on the wall.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)There's no morals involved here. It's all power and prestige.
If Barr thought Trump was gonna win, he'd still be up his ass.