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Boogiemack

(1,406 posts)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 07:22 AM Dec 2020

MICHIGAN: The state that Trump and the GOP wanted to disenfranchise...hub of vaccine delivery in US

Anyone else find this bizarre? The citizens of this state are working for us. Trump and the GOP are not. LET THAT SINK IN. AND SPREAD THE WORD.

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MICHIGAN: The state that Trump and the GOP wanted to disenfranchise...hub of vaccine delivery in US (Original Post) Boogiemack Dec 2020 OP
They still "want" gab13by13 Dec 2020 #1
I don't understand what that means. tavernier Dec 2020 #2
United Airlines begins FIRST chartered flights to move Pfizer COVID vaccine as FAA approves plan to Klaralven Dec 2020 #3
I know all of that. I had family members and friends who worked there over the years. tavernier Dec 2020 #6
They're shipping it to GR Ford Airport for distribution. There are large UPS & FedEx facilities. catbyte Dec 2020 #24
Oh, ok, thanks! tavernier Dec 2020 #29
I checked on Google after someone True Blue American Dec 2020 #4
That is because it was grown ups dealing with the vaccine . .. Iliyah Dec 2020 #5
I've been watching the packing and loading on MSNBC. Buns_of_Fire Dec 2020 #7
It is! See my post below. Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #9
I'm watching them ship it from a plant in Portage, Michigan live on MSNBC right now! Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #8
I have always thought that American Exceptionalism bottomofthehill Dec 2020 #13
There is definitely a sense of pride about this. And excitement! Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #22
I worked there 23 years when it was Upjohn hauckeye Dec 2020 #20
I remember Upjohn being a really good place to work. Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #21
I've made deliveries there... 2naSalit Dec 2020 #27
Watching too snowybirdie Dec 2020 #10
I found myself crying spontaneously. Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #12
This is going out on trucks. The first truck is pulling out now. Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #11
Memphis is FedX' hub. Klaralven Dec 2020 #14
Yup. That's what I gathered. Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #15
It's packed in trays of 195 fivd ml vials, 5 doses each. So about 5000 doses / cardboard carton? Klaralven Dec 2020 #16
Think so...sounds about right. Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #18
Am I the only one who thinks publicizing this on TV is bad idea? Sedona Dec 2020 #17
US Marshals are escorting the trucks. Silver Gaia Dec 2020 #19
Thanks for that news. That helps allay **some** fears of monkey wrenching. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2020 #25
And there's an armed one inside the cab too. 2naSalit Dec 2020 #28
So proud of Michigan right now! llmart Dec 2020 #23
Thanks! This is amazing to watch, that it is really happening! FailureToCommunicate Dec 2020 #26

gab13by13

(20,381 posts)
1. They still "want"
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 07:25 AM
Dec 2020

Grand Rapids is close to the lab where the vaccine is being produced, has a long runway, and good storage facilities.

tavernier

(12,261 posts)
2. I don't understand what that means.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 07:35 AM
Dec 2020

I was raised in Kalamazoo where Pfizer (the old Upjohn) is located. It is very large, close to the airport for distribution purposes. Grand Rapids is 50 miles away. Is their intention to ship product up there?

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
3. United Airlines begins FIRST chartered flights to move Pfizer COVID vaccine as FAA approves plan to
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 07:38 AM
Dec 2020
United Airlines begins FIRST chartered flights to move Pfizer COVID vaccine as FAA approves plan to fly it in dry ice at minus 70 degrees and US prepares for mass inoculation program

The specific chartered routes being flown were not specified by the Wall Street Journal, which reported the news, and it is not known if they were domestic US or international flights.

But it was revealed that United intends on flying cargo flights between the Belgian capital, Brussels, and Chicago's O'Hare airport to support distribution of the vaccine, according to a November 24 letter from the FAA viewed by the Journal.

Brussels and Chicago are both convenient international airports for Pfizer's plants in Kalamazoo, Michigan, and Puurs, Belgium, where the final assembly of the vaccine takes place.

Chicago is also close to Pfizer's distribution site in Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin, which is being expanded in preparation for the vaccine roll out.

The company has another distribution site in Karlsruhe, Germany.

Pfizer also plans dozens of cargo flights and hundreds of truck trips each day once approval is given by authorities.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8995425/United-Airlines-flies-batches-Pfizer-COVID-vaccine-refrigerated-cases.html

tavernier

(12,261 posts)
6. I know all of that. I had family members and friends who worked there over the years.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 07:53 AM
Dec 2020

I just didn’t understand the Grand Rapids reference or what it has to do with the republicans disenfranchising Michigan.

catbyte

(33,984 posts)
24. They're shipping it to GR Ford Airport for distribution. There are large UPS & FedEx facilities.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 09:08 AM
Dec 2020
https://www.woodtv.com/health/coronavirus/pfizer-vaccine-expected-to-be-shipped-out-of-portage-this-morning/

First Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine shipment en route to Ford Airport

by: WOODTV.com staff

Posted: Dec 13, 2020 / 04:30 AM EST / Updated: Dec 13, 2020 / 09:01 AM EST

PORTAGE, Mich. (WOOD/AP) — All eyes are on West Michigan Sunday as the first shipment of Pfizer and BioNTech’s COVID-19 vaccine starts shipping out nationwide.

FedEx flights carrying the vaccine will start leaving Gerald R. Ford International Airport later Sunday morning. WOOD TV8 will livestream the historic takeoff on www.woodtv.com

Workers at Pfizer’s Portage facility began packing doses of the coronavirus vaccine into dry ice containers around 6:45 a.m. Sunday. The first trucks carrying the vaccine rolled off the lot at 8:30 a.m.



snip

The rollout will ensure there is enough vaccine to give people the two doses needed for full protection against COVID-19. That means the government is holding back 3 million doses to give those vaccinated in the first round a second shot a few weeks later.



tavernier

(12,261 posts)
29. Oh, ok, thanks!
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 03:06 PM
Dec 2020

I was just confused as to why they would have to transport shipments 50 miles up the road when the kazoo airport is practically next door to them, but I guess the fed ex delivery planes are located in GR.
Well I’m sure they know much better what they are doing than I do, LOL!

True Blue American

(17,927 posts)
4. I checked on Google after someone
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 07:43 AM
Dec 2020

Insisted Pfizer was a Foreign Company.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pfizer-Inc

We owe the vaccine to those hated Pharmaceutical Companies. Moderna is American, too.

Silver Gaia

(4,474 posts)
8. I'm watching them ship it from a plant in Portage, Michigan live on MSNBC right now!
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 07:58 AM
Dec 2020

Portage is just south of Kalamazoo. I went to high school there. It's where I grew up. I had no idea it would be the center of this! I probably went to school with some of the parents of the workers I'm seeing on my screen. It's exciting to see history being made!

bottomofthehill

(8,213 posts)
13. I have always thought that American Exceptionalism
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:06 AM
Dec 2020

Would help lead us out of this. I did think we would find better treatments before we would have a vaccine, but the path out is the path out! I am glad we are sharing the list product and knowledge with the world. Is is what leaders do. There is a reason that people are not lining up for the Russian or Chinese vaccine, out testing and validation process should assure people that they will be safe and protected when taking the vaccine.

hauckeye

(616 posts)
20. I worked there 23 years when it was Upjohn
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:40 AM
Dec 2020

I worked in the downtown location though. When Pfizer bought the company in 2003 I lost my job in R&D

Silver Gaia

(4,474 posts)
21. I remember Upjohn being a really good place to work.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:43 AM
Dec 2020

My best friend's mom worked there many, many years.

Silver Gaia

(4,474 posts)
12. I found myself crying spontaneously.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:06 AM
Dec 2020

In part, because I'm watching my home town doing this.

But it's more than that. It's hope at long last. It's tangible hope. There it is. We can see it.

Silver Gaia

(4,474 posts)
11. This is going out on trucks. The first truck is pulling out now.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:03 AM
Dec 2020

It's going to Memphis and onto planes there, according to MSNBC.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
14. Memphis is FedX' hub.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:07 AM
Dec 2020

It will go to the airport, then to Memphis, and there it is put on planes to a variety of destination cities that FedX serves.

If shipped via UPS, the same applies, but the hub is Louisville.

Silver Gaia

(4,474 posts)
15. Yup. That's what I gathered.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:12 AM
Dec 2020

Thanks for adding that.

They just said the trucks will be accompanied by US Marshals.

And now they just said they may be going to Lansing and flying to Memphis.

There is a UPS truck there, too.

Sedona

(3,766 posts)
17. Am I the only one who thinks publicizing this on TV is bad idea?
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:34 AM
Dec 2020

What's to stop some wing nut from going after these trucks?

llmart

(15,360 posts)
23. So proud of Michigan right now!
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 08:52 AM
Dec 2020

Trump can stick it up his fat, orange lardass as far as I'm concerned. Our female leaders of this state are doing us proud and we voted him out in massive numbers. His petty vindictiveness runs right off their backs while they work to fight this virus.

Also, two more points. As someone said previously, we do like to criticize "big pharma" and yes, there is plenty to criticize them for but they are saving lives. They employee many people here in Michigan. It is an American company BUT many researchers at our state universities are here on visas doing the important work of discovering how to fight this virus.

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