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The New York Times, 12-13-2020
" Trump Has Never Believed in Democracy "
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" He keeps lying to his supporters, telling them partly out of pride, partly out of a craven quest for power that he was cheated and that he actually won the election. Many of them believe him. Right-wing media have aided him in his deception, as have Republican officials, either through their public pronouncements or through their silence. "
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" That a majority of all Republicans in the House of Representatives expressed support for the frivolous Texas lawsuit signals to me that the difference between liberals and conservatives is no longer about values; it is now about a fundamental belief in democracy. Republicans appear to be saying that not all votes matter or should be counted. This is voter suppression on the grandest of scales, because it is an attempt at voter erasure, at eliminating votes that have already been cast and counted. "
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/opinion/donald-trump-election.html
...I think they have and I'm not sure we'll ever be able to fix it...
...sad...
OAITW r.2.0
(24,467 posts)The rest of my life will be dedicated to destroying the Anti-Democratic Party that Moscow Mitch seem willing to kill.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)myohmy2
(3,162 posts)...what can I say...
pat_k
(9,313 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:57 PM - Edit history (4)
The nation witnessed, and allowed the five black-robed traitors on the court to steal the election in plain sight.
And if their perfidious disregard for the will of the voters in Florida wasn't enough, every election, they employ whatever tactics they can get away with to deny as many Americans (cities, black, young, generally democratic) as possible their right to easily cast their ballot and have confidence their votes will be accurately counted.
Citizen's United was another democracy wrecking milestone.
Trump's propaganda and stochastic terrorism is just the latest nail in the coffin.
DSandra
(999 posts)I still remember all the signs of creeping fascism in 2000, many of the parts of fascism were put in place during the Bush Administration and Obama didnt or couldnt take them out for the most part. I knew it was only a matter of time that someone would claim the dictator throne that was seemingly being readied especially by Republicans, and then here comes Trump... and here we are...
StevieM
(10,500 posts)When David Sentelle replaced the Whitewater independent counsel with Ken Starr we were placed on a very dangerous path.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)That was the moment, in my mind, when the GOP decided that they were pretty much done with democracy. And it happened all the way back in 1994.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...in the first place by Chief Justice Rehnquist.
IIRC, the law enabling the Independent Counsel indicated that senior judges at the end of their careers should be named to the oversight panels. The belief was that this would less susceptible to political influences and ambitions (such as a convenient SC nomination).
The other two judges on the panel followed that (Joseph T. Sneed, age 74, and John D. Butzner Jr., age 77), but Rehnquist simply ignored that provision when he named 51-year-old and very politically active Sentelle, a Jesse Helms protege.
Cha
(297,196 posts)to believe those Fascist Greedy Shit Heads Have NOT.
Things Change.. Keep Fighting.. We WON. As much as trump Cheated Before the Election.. they expected to win.. But The People said NO.. You're Fired Fascist MF.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Thekaspervote
(32,762 posts)NO.. they do not have all the power and control!
Cha
(297,196 posts)for sure 2/3rds & Hopefully The Senate, too if we Win in Georgia!
It's important to Accentuate the Positive.. like in the song..
E-lim-inate the negative,
An' latch on
To the affirmative
Don't mess with mister in-between!
https://www.metrolyrics.com/accentuate-the-positive-lyrics-perry-como.html
Demovictory9
(32,454 posts)👍👍👍
Cha
(297,196 posts)Silver Gaia
(4,544 posts)I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired (with a nod to Fannie Lou Hamer). NO MORE! We are going to build back better, stronger, smarter, with generosity and compassion. But for them? The fascist traitors? No mercy.
Cha
(297,196 posts)After 4 years of Fascist Sociopathic rule by that homicidal maniac in the WH.. that's quite Enough.
It's time for the Story to Change..
Mahalo~
Silver Gaia
(4,544 posts)JI7
(89,248 posts)continued to improve things and have had set backs.
Remember that many groups could not vote throughout much of this our history. People have had to fight for it. And voter suppression in minority communities has always gone on. It gets more attention at times but it's something that has always happened.
...I had your optimism...
...so many Americans willing to look the other way, chuck law and order and our Constitution for political advantage, follow blindly an obvious demagogue is depressing...
...and as others have pointed out, this has been going on for a long time...
...not sure how this is going to end...
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)The only thing that "wrecks" democracy is complacency. I hope the Democratic base has learned their lesson, and will continue to get off their asses and vote in EVERY election, not just the ones where electing the president is involved.