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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:22 AM

Star Member KY_EnviroGuy (14,366 posts)

Politico & Mary Trump: Trump's lost before. This time's different.

Trump’s lost before. This time’s different.
Politico
By MICHAEL KRUSE
12/18/2020 07:13 PM EST

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-nightly/2020/12/18/trumps-lost-before-this-times-different-491199

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Donald Trump has never had a week like the week he just had. On the heels of the Supreme Court’s knock-back and the Electoral College’s knockout, some of his most reliable supporters — Mitch McConnell, Vladimir Putin, Newsmax — all acknowledged and affirmed the fact of the matter. Trump is a loser. This is new territory for Trump....

“He’s never been in a situation in which he has lost in a way he can’t escape from,” Mary Trump, his niece and the author of the fiercely critical and hugely bestselling book about him and their family, told me the other day.
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The only moment in his life that remotely compares to what’s happening right now is early 1990, when Trump was mired in a high-profile marital breakup and billions of dollars in debt. That spring, according to Vanity Fair, Trump ordered in burgers and fries and stayed up late in bed, staring at the ceiling. Sometimes, he paged through periodicals looking for his name.

But even when he was all but broke, he got to keep living in the penthouse of Trump Tower, the building that had made him famous. “He was always there in his castle,” Alan Marcus, Trump’s publicist later on in the ‘90s, told me. This time, he’s getting evicted.

This is the collapse of one of the world's worse psychopathic narcissists EVER, in line with those like Saddam Hussein and Napoleon.

Some fear he may be on the way to a complete mental breakdown. Fingers crossed that he won't do something even more extreme and insane before inauguration day. We just want him gone for good.

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Reply Politico & Mary Trump: Trump's lost before. This time's different. (Original post)
 KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2020 OP
LineReply Sounds like it might be a rough ride. nt.
 Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #1
LineReply A big fat K&R!
 CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2020 #2
LineReply let's be clear here
 Skittles Dec 2020 #3
LineReply Trump Doesn't really think he Won the Election
 JI7 Dec 2020 #4
LineLineReply I read that one of his biographers said his big fear is being 'seen' as a loser.....
 KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2020 #5
LineLineLineReply Mary Trump's book certainly suggests that.
 Withywindle Dec 2020 #12
LineLineNew Reply Trump has severe personality disorders. He isn't rational.
 yardwork Dec 2020 #23
LineReply The Harder they Come....
 OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2020 #6
LineLineReply This So Applies to trump.
 Cha Dec 2020 #8
LineLineReply Yep
 malaise Dec 2020 #10
LineLineLineReply After Jan 20
 JustGene Dec 2020 #15
LineReply "We just want him gone for good"
 Cha Dec 2020 #7
LineReply "Remember The Apprentice?"
 herding cats Dec 2020 #9
LineReply KY_EnviroGuy...
 Upthevibe Dec 2020 #11
LineReply Maybe he'll decide to devote himself to selfless service
 Withywindle Dec 2020 #13
LineLineNew Reply 25 years ago I purchased a Habitat for Humanity house.
 LSFL Dec 2020 #19
LineLineLineNew Reply A genuinely good man
 Withywindle Dec 2020 #21
LineReply I keep hoping Melania talks him down to Mar a Loco for Xmas
 Warpy Dec 2020 #14
LineLineNew Reply The only problem with him going to Mar-a-Lago....
 Rollo Dec 2020 #20
LineReply I suspect any mental breakdown he might claim is part of ploy meant to keep
 cstanleytech Dec 2020 #16
LineLineNew Reply That and a horrible case of bone spurs.
 KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2020 #17
LineNew Reply A chain link fence around a refrigerator carton on top of steam vent in front of #loser Tower is
 GoneOffShore Dec 2020 #18
LineLineNew Reply You Forgot To Mention...
 ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #22
LineLineLineNew Reply Ah, I figured that the steam vent and the box would be enough.
 GoneOffShore Dec 2020 #24
LineLineLineLineNew Reply It Could Be
 ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #25
LineLineLineLineLineNew Reply You're a hard man. But I like the way you think.
 GoneOffShore Dec 2020 #26

Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:32 AM

Star Member Irish_Dem (38,519 posts)

1. Sounds like it might be a rough ride. nt.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:34 AM

Star Member CaliforniaPeggy (145,787 posts)

2. A big fat K&R!

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:44 AM

Star Member Skittles (149,678 posts)

3. let's be clear here

simply losing an election does not make one a LOSER.......it is Trump's actions since the election that make him a LOSER

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:57 AM

Star Member JI7 (87,947 posts)

4. Trump Doesn't really think he Won the Election

I have seen people say that Trump thinks he actually won and that's why he acts the way he does.

No, the reason he acts the way he does is because he has always had people that saved him from getting into worse trouble. From his dad giving him money after his business failures to Putin's interference in 2016 elections.

And even while he was in office he always had someone like Barr and others that protected him .

He is angry because he thinks people should have done the same for him for the 2020 elections. Maybe he wont actually win so they have to do something to fix it for him. That's why he is angry at Georgia's Republican officials . It's not that he thinks they are lying or anything like that , he is angry they aren't fixing the election for him.

And the election loss isn't just about the election loss but about losing the protections he had as President and all the chances for his grifting.

He will also have much more attention on the things he does not compared to before he ran for President.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:27 AM

Star Member KY_EnviroGuy (14,366 posts)

5. I read that one of his biographers said his big fear is being 'seen' as a loser.....

so he does everything possible to sugar coat and deflect from a loss. In other words, narcissists of his type know they've lost but create a massive shit storm afterward, thereby building an alternate reality so that no one thinks he lost.

We all know that a well balanced human accepts losses, admits to them, learns from them and moves on. Trump never had to learn that normal process in his youth. I often wonder if he was conditioned to be this way by Fred.

Having one through life in the school of hard knocks in a country environment, it's hard to even contemplate people of this nature. I assume they are also prone to attract others of that same type.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 03:56 AM

Star Member Withywindle (9,966 posts)

12. Mary Trump's book certainly suggests that.

Her own father, Trump's older brother, sounds like originally a basically normal person born into a very abnormal family. He had his own ambitions (to be a pilot) but he just got derailed too early on and lost his dream job because of alcoholism brought on by his father's bullying.

Donald got propped up to be the golden boy because he also had his father's sociopathic tendencies and was willing to play the model son, which mostly consisted of being ruthless, arrogant, and concerned about absolutely nothing but money and appearances.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 19, 2020, 09:14 AM

Star Member yardwork (56,957 posts)

23. Trump has severe personality disorders. He isn't rational.

I'm close to some people with personality disorders. Their perception of reality is bizarre. Everything is filtered through their emotional fears.

Deep down, Trump thinks he's a loser ever day, and he can't deal with it, so he masks the fear with bluster and all the things he does. He doesn't have the emotional capacity to confront failure and loss.

He's probably alternately raging with curling up in a fetal position.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:30 AM

Star Member OAITW r.2.0 (19,174 posts)

6. The Harder they Come....

The Harder they Fall. One and all.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:44 AM

Star Member Cha (286,771 posts)

8. This So Applies to trump.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 03:14 AM

Star Member malaise (257,260 posts)

10. Yep

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 04:08 AM

JustGene (421 posts)

15. After Jan 20

This will my take:

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:43 AM

Star Member Cha (286,771 posts)

7. "We just want him gone for good"

he begged for this.. thinking it wouldn't matter bc he could Cheat himself out of getting Kicked the hell out.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:50 AM

Star Member herding cats (18,997 posts)

9. "Remember The Apprentice?"

He's cracking. He's not broken yet, but the fact his reign is up weighing on him, or so I believe. He's not Putin, he didn't get to be a dictator like he dreamed. It's all falling apart.

He has his grift with his PAC, but that does nothing to prevent state level cases, or the other damage brought down on his name. Which was all he had to make money from. Now he's reduced to his gullible supporters he's fleecing, and the Republicans foolish enough to get in line for his PAC monies. Fools he openly disdains and low hanging fruit of the GOP. Oh, I forgot he has the My Pillow guy. Only the best for Donnie.

Perhaps, just perhaps, he'll experience equal suffering, anxiety and destruction as he's bestowed on our nation.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 03:26 AM

Star Member Upthevibe (6,894 posts)

11. KY_EnviroGuy...

Thank you for the post. I understand that people just want him gone for good. I do too. Having said that, I want him to be investigated and, if tried and found guilty, imprisoned. I feel the same about his enablers if they committed crimes. We can let this one go. We can NEVER let a "Trump" happen again. It'll be the end of our Democracy if we get an intelligent sociopath who doesn't say the quiet part out loud....

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 03:58 AM

Star Member Withywindle (9,966 posts)

13. Maybe he'll decide to devote himself to selfless service

and build houses for the homeless like Jimmy Carter.


hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 05:52 AM

LSFL (1,109 posts)

19. 25 years ago I purchased a Habitat for Humanity house.

Jimmy Carter is my hero.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 06:33 AM

Star Member Withywindle (9,966 posts)

21. A genuinely good man

Sometimes I think being truly good is more difficult than being "great."

If you're obsessed with being "great" like Trump is, it's all about the ego. Being sincerely good is about helping others.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 04:02 AM

Star Member Warpy (107,474 posts)

14. I keep hoping Melania talks him down to Mar a Loco for Xmas

because once he's down there, he's unlikely to go back to DC. He'll convince himself we don't deserve his greatness. Then he'll start plotting revenge against everybody who's wounded him while paying lawyers to delay things to keep him out of prison.

I don't think he's on the way to a breakdown. I think he's going to live for revenge. It's what malignant narcissists do.

Of course, his fall was made even more epic because it was accomplished by a bunch of absolute nobodies who went to the polls in sufficient numbers that all their cheating was overcome. There is no way he can exact revenge against that.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 06:05 AM

Rollo (2,559 posts)

20. The only problem with him going to Mar-a-Lago....

.... is that the local government there has a binding agreement that NOBODY can live at the place for more than seven days at a time, and no more than a few weeks a year. On top of that, the biggest and best dwelling there is off limits for any human habitation. Period. The locals do not like Mr. Trump and would like to see him move somewhere else.

There's always Moscow.

Or Scotland, if he hasn't burned all his bridges there, too.


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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 04:10 AM

Star Member cstanleytech (25,007 posts)

16. I suspect any mental breakdown he might claim is part of ploy meant to keep

him from going to prison.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 04:25 AM

Star Member KY_EnviroGuy (14,366 posts)

17. That and a horrible case of bone spurs.

.........

I still have serious doubts this teflon jerk will ever serve a day in jail. I do feel prosecutors will eventually bankrupt him. It won't be long until the cult of deplorables move on and quit sending him their money, especially after they figure out he screwed them with his 2016 tax bill.

But if he does surprisingly go to jail, there will be one hell of a party on DU.........

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 05:07 AM

Star Member GoneOffShore (16,944 posts)

18. A chain link fence around a refrigerator carton on top of steam vent in front of #loser Tower is

my Xmas wish for him and his clan.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 09:06 AM

Star Member ProfessorGAC (59,267 posts)

22. You Forgot To Mention...

...the bad cold snap that lasts a month or 2!

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:21 AM

Star Member GoneOffShore (16,944 posts)

24. Ah, I figured that the steam vent and the box would be enough.

That and having to look at his edifice daily and know that someone else was using his golden crapper.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 01:53 PM

Star Member ProfessorGAC (59,267 posts)

25. It Could Be

If it was 30°. That's why I'd like it 10 below.

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Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:05 PM

Star Member GoneOffShore (16,944 posts)

26. You're a hard man. But I like the way you think.

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