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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFrasier Balzov
(2,663 posts)He's been trying to tack irrelevant measures onto bills lately.
Polybius
(15,462 posts)I think the vote is tonight.
marybourg
(12,633 posts)sign the checks.
bdamomma
(63,913 posts)is that a one time payment???? or continuous?? it should be continuous after all the pain and death they have caused.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Use it to buy food for your family, pay the rent so you don't get evicted, pay the utilities so they don't shut off the power, and don't forget the payments on your car.
Enjoy !
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,384 posts)I've been desperately looking through Craigslist in anticipation of a run on $600 yachts.
bdamomma
(63,913 posts)isn't that like nothing??? It should be more. Sorry I believe that amount is like a slap in the face of Americans, or is it better than nothing??
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)"There ! I gave you something."
bdamomma
(63,913 posts)more like a gut punch.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)backrent and overdue bills? That is such an insult to people who have been suffering for months. God, I hate republicans with a passion!
There is always enough money for corporate and 1% tax cuts, military contractors and wars (but not vets or enlisted people) and corporate welfare, but never enough for the people who are paying most of the taxes and doing most of the actual work in this country.
I can't understand how many people are so blind to the fact of how corrupt the party is and how they have done absolutely nothing for anyone who isn't part of the establishment or isn't part of the millionaire/billionaire class in decades.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)backrent and overdue bills? That is such an insult to people who have been suffering for months. God, I hate republicans with a passion!
There is always enough money for corporate and 1% tax cuts, military contractors and wars (but not vets or enlisted people) and corporate welfare, but never enough for the people who are paying most of the taxes and doing most of the actual work in this country.
I can't understand how many people are so blind to the fact of how corrupt the party is and how they have done absolutely nothing for anyone who isn't part of the establishment or isn't part of the millionaire/billionaire class in decades.
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)These checks aren't really being issued to help out individuals that have been harmed by the pandemic.
They are being issued to help the economy as a whole.
The checks aren't being sent out to specifically help folks with rent, or bills, or whatever.
They are being sent out to folks that they hope will immediately spend them.....thus, stimulating the economy.
lame54
(35,302 posts)You no longer have an address to send it to?
Sorry
lunatica
(53,410 posts)so they can get theirs through automatic deposit.
George II
(67,782 posts)....when the scourge is out of the white house another extension will be negotiated.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)Can't ban evictions without compensating landlords.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Archae
(46,340 posts)jcgoldie
(11,635 posts)themaguffin
(3,826 posts)jcgoldie
(11,635 posts)👍
TexasBushwhacker
(20,208 posts)You also get $600 per dependent child. So a couple under the income threshold with 2 kids at home gets $2400.
George II
(67,782 posts)RainCaster
(10,904 posts)WTF? So glad Moscow Mitch is feeling a turtle shell of pity for all of us.
Akacia
(583 posts)The only reason it went through is because he is worried about holding on to power in the Senate.
Polybius
(15,462 posts)Thats about how long the last one took.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,676 posts)but then, I'm at the end of the alphabet. I've been last in line my whole life.
FSogol
(45,504 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,676 posts)Being on SS, I should have gotten direct deposit. But I was a little worried because I don't file taxes, being too low on the income scale. So I filed a 2019 tax return. Since I didn't get a refund, I didn't send IRS my bank info. I think that's why I got a paper check.
I suppose it'll get here the same way it did the first time.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Isn't your SS check direct deposited into your bank?
That's how I got my stimulus last time.
Wounded Bear
(58,676 posts)Turin_C3PO
(14,016 posts)but for some reason I got a paper check. Im not sure why it wasnt deposited in my bank account.
George II
(67,782 posts)....that your online information is still valid. We file our tax returns online and get direct deposit tax refunds.
I don't think it's connected to Social Security.
I was happy that I wasn't going to get a check with that moron's signature. But the fucker sent out letters to anyone who got direct deposit, so we still got that psychotic scrawl on a piece of paper.
Polybius
(15,462 posts)Three or so weeks after it was signed, direct deposit.
Polybius
(15,462 posts)They were faster.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)As I posted in #25 above.
myohmy2
(3,165 posts)...because we won't let him steel the election, will I still get a $600 check?
...$600?
...how about $2400?
...
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I think each child will get that amount.
But at this point I dont know if its useful to believe anything, either way.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)What greedy evil rotten f#*kers REPUKES are.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)Polybius
(15,462 posts)Later today.
mvd
(65,178 posts)I think they will probably come in January.
But I and my mom changed our bank account. I assume the IRS website will be updated to allow for the changed info? Social Security might inform them about my mom, but not me.
Jersey Devil
(9,874 posts)If it wasn't for the runoff people would get nothing. It's the only reason the Repubs will pass it in the Senate.
JI7
(89,259 posts)Bucky
(54,035 posts)Why in the hell can't they just target these things to people in need? I ended up giving almost my entire stimulus to friends in need and charities. I think I may have gotten a couple of extra sushi dinners out of it.
I expect to do the same now. We've got this looming eviction crisis in less than 2 weeks and they're handing out chump change to the middle class? This is all so fucked. Where the hell are our priorities?
mvd
(65,178 posts)There are a ton of people struggling and this is a quick way to get help out. It already is targeted to those with less than $70,000 income.
I cant work and my mom lives on Social Security. How does the money get to us? We are in need a lot.
I think the outrage here is the stupid three martini lunch tax break and the fact there needs to be MORE help for regular people.
Bucky
(54,035 posts)They should increase unemployment checks or increase food assistance. They should have done a national eviction moratorium and provide assistance to landlords who depend on the income on a needs-assessment basis.
But to just throw allow me $600 into the cloud and hope that some of it lands on someone who needs it, much like how Trump threw paper towels into a crowd of hurricane victims, is inefficient and lunkheaded.
Giving a pittance of aid to people who don't need it while ignoring the massive needs of people who are at risk of losing their homes or going hungry is just insane
mvd
(65,178 posts)The big corporations ate up much of the paycheck protection program and people who need money got crumbs. Happens way too much. The checks should be part of aid at many levels. The debt or having some people who dont need it get some isnt a big concern in a crisis IMO.
Polybius
(15,462 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,084 posts)I'd rather have seen the means testing be down to $45K a year and boost the payments to $2000. And i think the unemployment aid is the most important part of this. PUA being extended means that UE bartenders, self employed people, and a lot of restaurant workers who wouldn't qualify in their state get a minimum of $460 a week for 11 more weeks. These are the people in need the most.
So my wife and I who make a combined $130K a year are going to get $1200, it's fine, but we do not need it. Neither of us has been off work, we're doing fine, it's just a giveaway to us where as people who are behind on bills, who have not been working are getting barely enough help.
I have a lot of friends who work in service industry. They are hurting. Like everything else coming out of the Trump administration, this is poorly designed, unplanned, pitifully mismanaged, and ignorant of the real needs in the country
mvd
(65,178 posts)But maybe just start phasing it out after $50,000 or so. In this crisis, its not just the low income who could need more help. It can add to the too low amount of $300 unemployment for middle clsss people out of work.
My income has been unaffected by the pandemic. Im just going to put mine in my kids college fund.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)to donate to a local food bank. I made the donation today and on my way home drove past lovely older homes in a country club neighborhood being torn down to build massive new homes. This country is VERY out of whack. I don't know what the nuts and bolts would be but this money needs to go to those truly in need: unemployed, working poor, those facing eviction, low-income seniors, etc.
JuJuYoshida
(2,216 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)Which is odd because it kind of seems like it's not.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)and things don't seem to you as said.
That's some insight right there.
Which is not odd... or doesn't seem odd.
USALiberal
(10,877 posts)lol
George II
(67,782 posts)....and hours before the bill passed.
I heard that everyone is going to get a candy cane at the end of the week, a box of chocolates on Valentine's Day, colored eggs on Easter and a flag on Memorial Day.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....consider it a temporary fix. Many are thinking that in January the climate will be fresher for coming up with REAL long-term help.
Don't forget, republicans have been cowering in face of trump recrimination. That comes to an end in four weeks.
Also in the bill is a temporary extension of the eviction ban and an extension of unemployment compensation.