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bluestarone

(19,919 posts)
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:48 PM Dec 2020

Pardons are gonna be real hard on us (28 fucking days)

Again our hands are tied, with NO RECOURSE. PROOF tho that he is a FUCKING LOSER! Come on Jan 20th!!!!

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Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
1. Just remember,
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:49 PM
Dec 2020

everyone who gets pardoned is a potential witness who can't use the 5th amendment.

exboyfil

(18,243 posts)
7. That is for a judge to decide
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 09:10 PM
Dec 2020

If a potential state charge looms, then the 5th can still be exercised.

mitch96

(15,318 posts)
2. He's gonna pardon criminals just to piss people off... or make money on the deal.....fucker...nt
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:50 PM
Dec 2020

bluestarone

(19,919 posts)
4. We know he's in it for the money. MONEY is everything to him and family!!
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:53 PM
Dec 2020

Wonder if the smart ones here could answer this question? IF it's proven that he sold the pardons, CAN ANYTHING be done about it?

Andy823

(11,554 posts)
6. Yep
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:54 PM
Dec 2020

some of them will be those who could flip on him, but a lot of them will be, as you said, to piss people off, but more important will be the money deals he makes. There should be investigations into all of this pardons once we get a new AG.

Kablooie

(18,930 posts)
3. I'll bet the MBS pardon is being negotiated for a bucket load of cash right now.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:52 PM
Dec 2020

MBS could pay Trump a hell of a lot if Trump convinces him it's worthwhile.

TheBlackAdder

(29,575 posts)
5. Pelosi should mention that everyone pardoned will be subpoenaed to testify in February or March.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 08:54 PM
Dec 2020

.

Catch them in lies and get them for perjury.

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exboyfil

(18,243 posts)
10. Under advice of counsel, I wish to exercise my 5th Amendment
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 09:15 PM
Dec 2020

right to avoid self-incrimination.

Especially for a preemptive pardon that is so general in nature like Flynn's, you might have a difficult time getting a judge to go along with compelling testimony because state jeopardy might still exist.

CanonRay

(15,419 posts)
8. Why doesn't he just issue a blanket pardon
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 09:11 PM
Dec 2020

to all Republicans in Congress. Shit, throw in state legislators too.

bluestarone

(19,919 posts)
9. Scary part is
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 09:15 PM
Dec 2020

HE COULD! Along with every person in ALL prisons for a federal offense. rump putin saudi brainstorming? Someone gotta end this nightmare!!

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
11. Someone has to be helping and enabling him with this.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 09:20 PM
Dec 2020

He doesn't have the legal knowledge to do the paperwork. Barr did it for Bush when he pardoned the Reagan gangsters.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
12. Another thing to consider is
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 09:22 PM
Dec 2020

these people are criminals. It's in their DNA. They have not committed their last crimes. Many of them will wind up in prison one way or another.

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