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more help for small businesses.
I smell a scheme here. Mitch and the Repugs only approving $600.00 checks on purpose so that Trump can come into this at the 11th hour and be the hero and call for $2000.00 checks.
It makes it look like Trump cares.
Does anyone else think that this was planned?
Think about it. Trump could have made in known while they were negotiating this whole mess of a stimulus bill that he wanted $2000 and forced Mitch and the Repugs to make it happen.
No - they waited until this was passed so that Trump could chime in. Here I come to save the day......
What do you think is going on?
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global1
(25,242 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,700 posts)Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)Its come from the general budget. Theres a post on DU somewhere that explained that.
blm
(113,052 posts)and the Covid bill was a separate tag on.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Do this. But reporters on CNN said said the government will shut down. The GOP never wanted any bill.
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spanone
(135,830 posts)Phoenix61
(17,003 posts)things that motivate Twitler. Gaining something he wants or hurting someone. The $2,000 wont effect him so it has to be the latter, hurting someone.
spanone
(135,830 posts)pnwest
(3,266 posts)so this has to be about making Mitch look bad.
spanone
(135,830 posts)he'll teach them...
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Timewas
(2,193 posts)That they could do that would be much of a surprise, he wants to look like some sort of hero to try to save the senate maybe... also would not be surprised to see them plot this out...BUT I am just not really convinced that t-rump has the brains or temprament to pull something this complicated* off..
*complicated for him not for most others
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)and try to make Democrats look bad. It isn't very complicated. He's not clever enough.
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)from the sounds of Trump in the video posted in another thread that he doesn't want to only make Democrats look bad, but he wants to make the entire Congress look bad...everyone but him. You are right. He wants to be popular, but he'll die trying. He is such a fucking asshole.
captain queeg
(10,185 posts)There is no thought about what might be the right thing to do. Only how it will affect him and make him look. Its a pretty easy filter for everything about him. In this case I think he wants to look good for his followers, and thats about the extent of it.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Who ever knows his motives except that they are never honorable.
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underpants
(182,788 posts)Yep.nailed it.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)Trump doesn't think things out. He reacts. This is petty vindictiveness, plain and simple. I'm not sure how it would make the Dems look bad, when they had a much larger bill sitting on McConnell's desk since may. I believe they even passed one that offered the $2ooo PER MONTH. Yes, this is to get back at not only McConnell, but al of the other Republicans who are starting to peel away from him.
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)And everyone is talking about what?
Theres your motive. Secondary motive; screwing over Republicans because they failed him.
JI7
(89,248 posts)but that's not going to happen.
So just go along with it as him supporting something democrats have already been calling for .
Tink41
(537 posts)Just send the fing money, quick
sweetloukillbot
(11,009 posts)Thats cute
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)Straw Man
(6,623 posts)He didn't win. Now he's saying "Root for me to steal the election and I'll get you a big payoff."
It's a Hail Mary, and a very stupid one. The time to come across all benevolent would have been before the election. Back when he was too busy self-aggrandizing and sowing doubt.
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)That it was a possibility bc he thought he was stacking the deck. Surprise, surprise.
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sweetloukillbot
(11,009 posts)Stop peddling this isolationist bull
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)$2000 for months. I loath him but he called for it 9 months ago.
Cha
(297,188 posts)that?
I haven't seen that.
sweetloukillbot
(11,009 posts)Guess even some progressives can be bought for $1400.
Cha
(297,188 posts)would be apologizing for that heartless, conniving, Fucker.
The election might have turned out differently if the russian agent & moscow mitch had actually gotten together & passed a stimulus that really helped people and not so much the corporations and the already rich.
Even though this one does help.. like PE says.. it's a start.
But they didn't.
Cha
(297,188 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,493 posts)It is possible that people would want to jump on this higher amount and STILL think that he deserves to be removed from office.
It's possible to think that he can be right and can help us get more money to the american people about THIS ONE THING and still think he's an entirely evil asshole who doesn't deserve respect or consideration or anything else.
He will be removed from the presidency on Jan 20th. It's going to happen. If he can (by accident or on purpose) get slightly more money to people who need it on his way out because of his bluster, it's one decent thing he's done in four years. (The other decent thing he could do is take the vaccine on television and convince people that it's okay.)
These are the only two things I would say are "good" that he could possibly do. And neither of them would mean I'm apologizing for him or hoping he'll stay in office.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Bill. It will languish on his desk for ten days and then poof disappears.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)I got literally hundreds of articles about the current $2,000 debacle. He has proposed more money for some time and he has been talked out of it by Mnuchin. Of course it was a political ploy.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)moondust
(19,979 posts)May be a plot to salvage some respect for him and possibly the GOP (ahead of the Georgia runoff). Maybe he/they planned it to wait and see how bad the reaction to the $600 would be.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)he did. This wont change anyones mind
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Unemployed and those who will now lose their homes. This is not good news. I doubt we get anything.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Bitter as the product is for both sides, way too much for the mean people, not nearly enough for us, pretty obviously the leaders of both parties expected Trump to veto anything he could out of spite.
With his control of the senate in serious danger, McConnell really needed to finally allow something to pass., so he produced his half of a veto-proof majority for this. Let's hope some more Georgians are angered into hanging them all with their $600 rope.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Wont help him with the election - he lost repeatedly - or save his reputation. There will be soooo much evil crap oozing out once people feel free to talk - that he is very likely at his high point now. History will be brutal.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)He did before the election.
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)If he doesn't sign it, when this congress ends (in 10 days?) the legislation is dead, and no one gets a damn thing.
Putin's poodle strikes again.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)for 4 years and thats why he was fired
wishstar
(5,269 posts)He is causing both false hope and fearful uncertainty when he could have pushed for more stimulus many weeks or months ago instead of waiting until a final deal was done and then blow it all up right before Christmas with no guarantee now if or when people will get relief.
dansolo
(5,376 posts)People were complaining about the $600 checks, so Trump thought he could claim to be on the side of larger checks, not expecting anything to be done, so he can turn around and blame the Democrats. I guarantee you that McConnell had nothing to do with this. The GOP Senate is already on record as thinking even $600 was too much.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Fyrefox
(300 posts)An economic stimulus check is popular, but it's a flash in the pan, and that money is soon gone. The real face of Republicanism is that Trump and Mitch want to cut Medicare and Social Security, which would bring long-term financial hardship to many...
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)UI.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)dont want.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)"Democrats are ready to bring this to the floor this week by unanimous consent."
AOC said: "Glad to see the president is willing to support our legislation. We can pass $2,000 checks this week if the Senate GOP agrees to stand down."
Senate Minority leader Schumer said: "Let's not get bogged down with ideological offsets and unrelated items and just DO THIS! The American people deserve it."
Jon Ossoff said: "President Trump is as ever erratic and all over the place, but on this point, tonight, he's right: $600 is a joke. They should send $2,000 checks to the American people right now because people are hurting."
It appears that Mitch McConnell has yet to comment on Trumps' call for $2000 stimulus payment request.
Seems to me that Trump, who has a tendency to speak before he thinks, (if, indeed, he ever does think), has unintentionally given Democrats a nice holiday gift.
With Trump's surprise support for $2,000 stimulus checks, Democratic leadership and the progressive wing of the party have rallied in support of the amendment.
Many representatives, including Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have been calling for $2,000 stimulus checks since the spring, and are piling pressure on Mitch McConnell to make it happen.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called for a "unanimous consent" hearing of the new proposal.
https://www.businessinsider.com/progressives-boost-call-for-2000-checks-after-trump-signals-support-2020-12
kentuck
(111,089 posts)...and keep his war against our Constitution going on, in my opinion.
Who doesn't want more money?
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Trump IS this pretty and unhinged, He is a sadistic madman punching at everything right now.
global1
(25,242 posts)Sorry I couldn't resist. I know you meant petty.
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)brooklynite
(94,519 posts)...when Trump has exhibited no strategic thinking in his entire life.
Caliman73
(11,736 posts)Not sure why people continue to think that Trump is playing some sort of nefarious strategic game. His whole life has been about revenge, and avoiding the inevitable crash and humiliation.
Trump could have continued to be a relatively comfortable con man in New York, but he chose to step under the most powerful social microscope. We have seen how the Presidency ages people, how it tests character, intelligence, and resolve. We have seen how people go in (bright, cheerful and full of energy), and how they come out (gray and tired). Trump of course was never even up to the task. Unfit in character and intelligence. He reacts. He never plans past the day's news cycle.
I would even stipulate the there may be people around Trump who are capable of plotting. We all know McConnell is capable of nefarious planning and strategy. However, with a partner like Trump, no plan is safe from his impulsiveness. You can't really have a conspiracy WITH Trump, you would have to have it AROUND him because like his business dealings, after delicate negotiations, he would come in at the last minute and blow up the deal (as stated by Tony Schwartz).
RGTIndy
(203 posts)I don't see... any method... at all, sir.
pfitz59
(10,376 posts)Trump can just sit on the bill until the clock runs out. I think he will.