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kpete

(72,024 posts)
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 10:38 AM Dec 2020

Trump just pardoned this young boy's killers.

Ali Kinani was 9 years old when he was shot in the head by Blackwater guards on September 16, 2007 in Baghdad Iraq.
DonaldTrump just pardoned his killers. I represented Ali’s and five other families in a civil lawsuit against Blackwater and Erik Prince for the killings.




Ali was sitting in the back seat of his father’s SUV with two of his cousins. Blackwater riddled the car with bullets. Ali’s father was driving. When the shooting stopped they thought they had experienced a miracle that they were safe.

One of Ali’s cousins said that Ali had been shot. His father opened the door after seeing blood on the window - and Ali’s brain fell out onto the pavement between his father’s feet.

None of the victims had weapons. They were all shot and killed or wounded in their cars.


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Trump just pardoned this young boy's killers. (Original Post) kpete Dec 2020 OP
Unsurprising Bettie Dec 2020 #1
As does his base sandensea Dec 2020 #32
tRump* is giving Xmas presents to war criminals... Raster Dec 2020 #2
and Muslim-killers. lastlib Dec 2020 #16
I believe you are probably correct. Raster Dec 2020 #17
Pardons from our "pro-life" president. area51 Dec 2020 #3
What was it George Carlin said about pro-lifers? jmowreader Dec 2020 #18
The Unbridled Cruelty Appealed to Trump TheOther95Percent Dec 2020 #4
never forget the killers names and lets drive them to the brink of madness... samnsara Dec 2020 #5
Should put the victim's faces Delarage Dec 2020 #42
Trump probably likes the fact the fact that he pardoned killers Botany Dec 2020 #6
He pardons murderers of unarmed civilians xxqqqzme Dec 2020 #12
Some friend's are hosting a brother and sister from central America who had to flee ... Botany Dec 2020 #22
no sane person could. demigoddess Dec 2020 #23
I was disgusted when I heard that news last night Docreed2003 Dec 2020 #7
:( Catherine Vincent Dec 2020 #8
What do we look like to the rest of the world? We lecture them over and over again about.... George II Dec 2020 #9
feels like I've been holding my breath... stillcool Dec 2020 #11
in drumpf's eyes......... Takket Dec 2020 #10
Too sad but don't forget to add the 330,000 Americans killed by malaise Dec 2020 #13
The Pardon Policy Needs Revised colsohlibgal Dec 2020 #14
Oh, poor dear child. Poor father and family. colorado_ufo Dec 2020 #15
I'm waiting for the Unabomber pardon. roamer65 Dec 2020 #19
I hope the boy haunts their dreams Submariner Dec 2020 #20
The Deplorable base must be so proud of their NoMoreRepugs Dec 2020 #21
This pardon was bought by Blackwater McCamy Taylor Dec 2020 #24
Jesus! Hell of a way to start my day. .... That's KPN Dec 2020 #25
I can not argue with you. He is hideous. idziak4ever1234 Dec 2020 #29
This little list of pardons is SO awful. BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #26
This post by a damn lawyer should be read kacekwl Dec 2020 #27
Until Trump, I believed in Karma idziak4ever1234 Dec 2020 #28
iraq should send a team to take the 4 back to iraq rdking647 Dec 2020 #30
Or The Hague. mwooldri Dec 2020 #35
Horrible. Absolutely horrible. I have no words anymore to the degree of depravity w him Vivienne235729 Dec 2020 #31
And 70 million Americans are ok with this? housecat Dec 2020 #33
Including the pastors in the churches they attend. RVN VET71 Dec 2020 #37
Ok, so now what? mwooldri Dec 2020 #34
No words. yardwork Dec 2020 #36
Bush/Cheney lied us into that war. These pardons are unconscionable as were.... mjvpi Dec 2020 #38
Human Scum nwliberalkiwi Dec 2020 #39
The 4 murders were part of Erik Prince's "police" iluvtennis Dec 2020 #40
This should be on billboards across the nation Blue Owl Dec 2020 #41
That is horrible I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2020 #43

sandensea

(21,677 posts)
32. As does his base
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:48 PM
Dec 2020

It gives them the baby fist-pump reaction GOPee politicians are always looking for.



Raster

(20,998 posts)
2. tRump* is giving Xmas presents to war criminals...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 10:40 AM
Dec 2020

...Remember Eric Prince* (brother of Betsy DeVos*, and founder of Blackwater) was the person working with Kushner* to open a "back channel" with Putin* and the Kremlin, far away from American prying eyes.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
17. I believe you are probably correct.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:01 PM
Dec 2020

tRump* doesn't like anyone that isn't the same shade of whatever that he is. tRump* is a VIRULENT RACIST and an Islamaphobe.

jmowreader

(50,566 posts)
18. What was it George Carlin said about pro-lifers?
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:04 PM
Dec 2020

Something like "pre-born, you're sacred; pre-school, you're fucked."

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
4. The Unbridled Cruelty Appealed to Trump
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:10 AM
Dec 2020

Shooting people of color on the flimsiest of pretenses. A jury voted to convict Nick Slatten, accused of the most serious of the crimes that day, THREE times. He had his day in court and has never shown any remorse for his part in the execution of innocent civilians.

samnsara

(17,650 posts)
5. never forget the killers names and lets drive them to the brink of madness...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:17 AM
Dec 2020

....send photos of this smiling child to their snail mail every damned day....

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
12. He pardons murderers of unarmed civilians
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:53 AM
Dec 2020

while stepping up executions of federal prisoners on death row.

I need a sane person to explain this to me.

Botany

(70,594 posts)
22. Some friend's are hosting a brother and sister from central America who had to flee ...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:17 PM
Dec 2020

... their hometown because their father was murdered, they got separated from their
mother at the US border, held in custody, before becoming refugees and being hosted
by my friends. They are still separated from their mother and the younger sister is very
damaged. Trump and Stephen Miller are monsters.

Docreed2003

(16,878 posts)
7. I was disgusted when I heard that news last night
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:21 AM
Dec 2020

I'm even more disgusted now. These pigs are murderers, have never once show an ounce of remorse for their actions, and have no business being pardoned.

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. What do we look like to the rest of the world? We lecture them over and over again about....
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:42 AM
Dec 2020

....their criminal and immoral governments, then we have something like this done by our "president"!

I'm truly ashamed of my country when it comes to things like this.

We should have invoked the 25th Amendment 3 years ago. I grew up in NYC with trump in the news every week or so with his irrational behavior, but it was pretty much localized to the metropolitan area, and had nothing to do with government or governing.

The morning after election day in 2016 I was despondent, thinking about what damage this man would do to the country.

Sadly, it's been ten times worse than I expected.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
11. feels like I've been holding my breath...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:50 AM
Dec 2020

for the last 4 years. Since the election is just more of the same, digging down further into the abyss. So hard to ignore the noise, and play the cards that have been dealt. The Republican party surely doesn't care what they've done, but do they even know? This holiday is going to be so hard for so many Americans. Just the stay breathing part.

Takket

(21,639 posts)
10. in drumpf's eyes.........
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:45 AM
Dec 2020

there is no such thing as murder when a white man kills a non-white. in drumpf's eyes that is just making the world a cleaner place.

racist scum sucking piece of shit..........

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
14. The Pardon Policy Needs Revised
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:57 AM
Dec 2020

Nobody foresaw a vindictive spiteful child having this tool.

What if he has someone kill a Democrat or two then pardons the killer?

We need to revisit this.

colorado_ufo

(5,738 posts)
15. Oh, poor dear child. Poor father and family.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 11:58 AM
Dec 2020

No one should have to experience this.

All those poor people. Damn "Shock and Awe." Damn war and all the hatred and greed and arrogance that cause it.

I remember when mercenary soldiers were something that this country looked upon with contempt.

I remember when good people led this country and look forward to having it again.

Submariner

(12,511 posts)
20. I hope the boy haunts their dreams
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:08 PM
Dec 2020

especially the shooter, and that he wakes up in sweaty terror often. If he has a wife and kids, they should leave him without letting him know where they are going so he never sees his kids again. F*** him/them.

KPN

(15,662 posts)
25. Jesus! Hell of a way to start my day. .... That's
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:35 PM
Dec 2020

it. We absolutely have to get that fucking fat-assed, clown-haired, little prick. I won’t feel satisfied till justice is done and he’s either locked up and the key thrown away, swinging from a noose, watching the bloody stub of his own neck while his head bounces away from a guillotine, or he is riddled by bullets before one of his own authorized firing squads with his eyes taped open! I hate that mother fucker.

Seriously. Woe is us if we don’t hold this evil bastard, his goons and his chief enablers accountable.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,572 posts)
26. This little list of pardons is SO awful.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:36 PM
Dec 2020

It makes it hard to imagine what he's holding back. Wouldn't a logical assumption be that he is saving the most egregious for a day much closer to his ouster?

kacekwl

(7,022 posts)
27. This post by a damn lawyer should be read
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:37 PM
Dec 2020

as BREAKING NEWS by every newscast today and every day trump is still alive. Repukes should also explain their position on this.

idziak4ever1234

(1,257 posts)
28. Until Trump, I believed in Karma
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:38 PM
Dec 2020

simply losing an election doesn't even come close to evening up the score.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
30. iraq should send a team to take the 4 back to iraq
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:44 PM
Dec 2020

rendition them like the cia used to do with isis suspects.

have them face a court in iraq.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
35. Or The Hague.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:58 PM
Dec 2020

Though I suspect these murderers would prefer the Hague and the International Criminal Court versus Iraqi justice. Death penalty is an option in Iraq. Yes I know the US doesn't recognize the ICC but I'm sure a blind eye could be turned while these fuckers are extradited.

RVN VET71

(2,698 posts)
37. Including the pastors in the churches they attend.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 01:11 PM
Dec 2020

Don't forget that. By supporting this enabler and fan of mass murderers, those preacher-men are guilty enablers themselves. If there were a hell, there'd be a special place, I think, set aside for cold-blooded men of the cloth who preach every Sunday that Jesus loves Trump, the "chosen one" of God, and all the things he does.

It would be nice to have these satanic snake-oil christians provide us with there take on Trump's pardon. Seriously. Where's that tight-pantsed bitch who serves as his "spiritual advisor"? Hey, bitch, here's a youngster of 9 years old whose brains were spilled out of his skull onto his father's lap after these 4 heroes murdered him. Cool, huh? They were found guilty of murder. They should be rendered to The Hague to stand trial again, despite Trump's pardon, and sentenced to serve time away from their families, from their "loved" (is that even a word for these scum-sucking child killers?)ones, and allowed to exercise, to be fed and kept alive until they die of old, old age. And Trump -- and the bitch -- should be incarcerated next to them. (But now I'm slipping into pure vengeful fantasy.)

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
34. Ok, so now what?
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:56 PM
Dec 2020

I propose that Iraq or the International Criminal Court call for the extradition of these murderers and they can stand trial in Baghdad or Den Haag. And the new leaders of the justice department find a way to make it happen.

mjvpi

(1,389 posts)
38. Bush/Cheney lied us into that war. These pardons are unconscionable as were....
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 01:25 PM
Dec 2020

......the acts that precipitated them. Reputable sources put civilian deaths as high as one million. The lowest I’ve read is 150,000. Almost 5,000 US and allied troops dead. High 50,000 wounded. I’ve never read an estimate of Iraqi wounded. The suicide rate amongst our vets climbs daily.

Let’s never forget what truly evil leadership looks like, even if a decision was made not to hold them accountable. Trump is a corrupt, narcissistic, incompetent phat phuck.

nwliberalkiwi

(367 posts)
39. Human Scum
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 01:28 PM
Dec 2020


What about the monsters that raised these human scum. I hope there is a Hell for all of them and their families.













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iluvtennis

(19,880 posts)
40. The 4 murders were part of Erik Prince's "police"
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 01:30 PM
Dec 2020

for e. trump will be getting a payoff from Prince and DeVos.

What a DISGUSTING bastard trump is. It’s all a out money, not justice.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
43. That is horrible
Thu Dec 24, 2020, 02:30 AM
Dec 2020

That poor kid and his father is traumatized .

I hate Eric prince he's a rabid fundie asshole and he can't die quick enough,fuck trump,blackwater and eric prince to death fuck them!

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