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Wed Dec 30, 2020, 05:42 PM

tRump top science adviser for Operation Warp Speed blames slow vaccine roll out on holidays and

snowstorms, among other things like, the learning curve. January will be different, he said.

Three Questions and a comment
1. Holidays and snowstorms didn't stop other countries from winning on the vaccine front, why aren't we winning?
2. If it snows in January do we lose again? Will you blame MLK Day?
3. Why not give the job of vaccine distribution to those who already know how to do it and eliminate that pesky learning curve?

Please consider resigning.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/lower-we-hoped-trump-officials-ask-patience-vaccine-n1252561

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Reply tRump top science adviser for Operation Warp Speed blames slow vaccine roll out on holidays and (Original post)
NoRoadUntravelled Dec 2020 OP
dchill Dec 2020 #1
NRaleighLiberal Dec 2020 #2
Irish_Dem Dec 2020 #3
Generic Other Dec 2020 #4
greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #5
LiberalFighter Dec 2020 #8
greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #9
gratuitous Dec 2020 #6
ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #7
greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #10
ProfessorGAC Dec 2020 #12
Dem4Life1102 Dec 2020 #11
SWBTATTReg Dec 2020 #13
KT2000 Dec 2020 #14

Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 05:51 PM

1. Moncef Slaoui is his name...

Making excuses us his game.

Underfunding and understaffing is the trademark of the Trump administration. Specifically, the removal of experts. Ask the Postal Service.

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Response to dchill (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 05:56 PM

2. he sucked as the CEO of rhe pharma I used to worked for. No surprise

he still sucks now.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 05:57 PM

3. We lost WWII because there was a Normandy Beach snow storm on D-Day.

And the landing ships and tanks were delivering Christmas presents.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 05:59 PM

4. Because we all know other countries skipped winter this year

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:01 PM

5. These actually don't strike me as bad reasons

The storm that struck the Northeast was particularly bad, and slowed down a lot of transportation. Transportation infrastructure is usually pressed during the holidays, and the increase in shipping rather than in-person shopping was probably an intensifier. And, yes, any new large scale logistical project will lag at the outset due to basic learning curve phenomena.

It's OK to be mad, I guess, but these all strike me as reasonable problems that an operations officer or supply chain manager would have to deal with, and none of it strikes me as particularly incompetent or malicious.

On Edit: I suppose if you're asking "Why are logistics more complicated in the US than in, say, Denmark?" then we're going to eventually reduce that to scale.

Disclaimer: Listen, I hate Trump as much as the next guy, blah blah blah.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:06 PM

8. Would be if the snowstorm covered every square foot of the USA and...

the starting point for distribution was snowbound. Pretty sure it was in Michigan though.

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Response to LiberalFighter (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:09 PM

9. Come on

Everyone who's ever been stranded in San Antonio because of a holiday snowstorm in Chicago knows these networks are interconnected. We don't have to invent a villain here.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:02 PM

6. Why did no one inform Dr. Slaoui?

There are holidays in December?

There is a good chance of inclement weather in winter?

People without any experience in transporting and distributing goods and services might not know what they're doing from day one?

There are costs associated with transporting and distributing goods?

You'd have to be some kind of super-powered knowing-stuff kind of person!

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:03 PM

7. Question 4

Did they not know there are holidays at the end of the year?
I honestly think the problem is start-up hiccups in a large country with areas of low population density. That toughens the distribution planning. The hiccups were inevitable, but these are bigger than they needed to be.
But, he didn't say that, did he? That would require admitting that the planning overlooked some elements.
The distribution systems will smooth out fairly quickly, but this guy is just making excuses.
This is especially true because the 2 vaccines in distribution were not, in any way, facilitated by Warp Speed.
All they had to do was set up distribution. And, they couldn't do that.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:10 PM

10. I think learning curve start-up hiccups



That's how I read it, anyway.

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Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:14 PM

12. Yes, Same Thing

I've been involved with start-ups of big capital projects.
Term of art where I was is "hiccups". Sorry, probably too specific a reference.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:10 PM

11. It's all this guy's fault

 

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 06:47 PM

13. Whose fault was it to only initially order only 3 million doses? When there are 330+ million

Americans? I would say that the moron that you follow (and you all) screwed up big time.

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Response to NoRoadUntravelled (Original post)

Wed Dec 30, 2020, 07:49 PM

14. the work of the dispencing

was the responsibility of the trump administration. Had they truly been working on that part when Warp Speed began, they would have had a system in place. They likely only considered how they could profit off of all of this. Total incompetence to the point of criminality.

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