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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:46 PM Jan 2021

Just saying Congrats to Speaker Pelosi as this day winds down

Looking forward to seeing Speaker Pelosi sitting alongside Vice President Kamala Harris and behind President Joe Biden at the State of the Union!



Congrats to this courageous woman & her remarkable career.

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Just saying Congrats to Speaker Pelosi as this day winds down (Original Post) Budi Jan 2021 OP
I'll drink to that! cwydro Jan 2021 #1
Love love love the photo..the cartoon is good too! Thx for posting Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #3
Congratulations Nancy and thank you for all your hard work. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #4
Congratulations, Madam Speaker Leith Jan 2021 #5
One more 'good' thing we got goin' awn! Phew. "Next..." eom sprinkleeninow Jan 2021 #6
Congratulations Speaker Pelosi MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #7
Yes. I felt really good about what happened today. There was Hortensis Jan 2021 #8
Hurrah!! I quake to think where we'd be without her firm hand on the tiller these last 4 yrs. SaveOurDemocracy Jan 2021 #9
So agree with you! The Wielding Truth Jan 2021 #11
Kick lunatica Jan 2021 #10
Sad day. Long past time for our party to have new thinking leadership. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #12
I'm not sad about it. MontanaMama Jan 2021 #17
I am. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #24
Why? wnylib Jan 2021 #28
Absolutely positively a great human and public servant Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #30
But this is not the moment for change, IMO. wnylib Jan 2021 #31
But this is not the moment for change, IMO. wnylib Jan 2021 #32
Seriously? Wawannabe Jan 2021 #20
You'll get it Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #25
??? Wawannabe Jan 2021 #27
I'm not sure, but wonder how many, if any, Speakers have served four terms? George II Jan 2021 #13
O'Neill and Rayburn come to mind bottomofthehill Jan 2021 #14
I just looked it up. Yes, O'Neill holds the longest consecutive tenure, five terms... George II Jan 2021 #52
Here Here for Speaker Pelosi! bottomofthehill Jan 2021 #15
I'll second that. Now impeach the the MOFO again. Up or down vote. ffr Jan 2021 #16
Hear. Hear. Wawannabe Jan 2021 #21
Hear. Hear. Wawannabe Jan 2021 #22
Are you serious? Took her 3 years to agree before. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #26
Why? Who& what was standing in her way? Budi Jan 2021 #34
Wish it was, but not true... Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #35
There were reasons it was declined & since we have no access to what the Leaders were privy to.. Budi Jan 2021 #36
Wow that's a lot of blind faith! Have never demeaned Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #37
Before the cool kids shove them out the door, perhaps there's a lot of untold history to learn of. Budi Jan 2021 #39
???? Impeachment on only two charges 3 years into term?? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #42
Hakeem Jeffries is a Democrat. Budi Jan 2021 #40
He is ???? Wow. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #41
Here is his statement on impeachment: George II Jan 2021 #51
So you basically answered the question yourself here: George II Jan 2021 #47
Yes! Until we have leaders who stand up to wrong, because Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2021 #48
We DO have leaders who stand up to wrong, but calling for an impeachment 15 days before trump.... George II Jan 2021 #50
Thank you Mike L marieo1 Jan 2021 #18
To Nancy!!!! Wawannabe Jan 2021 #19
❤️✿❧🌿❧✿❤️ Lucinda Jan 2021 #23
Congrats to Speaker Pelosi! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2021 #29
Congratulations to Speaker Pelosi cheezmaka Jan 2021 #33
K&R! R B Garr Jan 2021 #38
K&R betsuni Jan 2021 #43
Speaker Pelosi is an amazing leader Gothmog Jan 2021 #44
Thank You, Nancy Pelosi! Cha Jan 2021 #45
K&R brer cat Jan 2021 #46
Awesome cartoon! mcar Jan 2021 #49

Response to Budi (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Yes. I felt really good about what happened today. There was
Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:55 PM
Jan 2021

virtually none of the turmoil of 2018 because our big majority then has become much tighter and not standing with Pelosi could have resulted in a Speaker McCarthy. We were united, even those whose usual schtick is refusing to be.

SaveOurDemocracy

(4,400 posts)
9. Hurrah!! I quake to think where we'd be without her firm hand on the tiller these last 4 yrs.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:16 AM
Jan 2021

She was definitely the woman for these times. Her courage, knowledge and experience showed the way. We still need her savvy, especially if that turtle stays majority leader. What a sweet start to this New Year if he's stripped of his power.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
30. Absolutely positively a great human and public servant
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 03:25 PM
Jan 2021

Just think it's LONG past time to put new life into our party leadership.

wnylib

(21,500 posts)
31. But this is not the moment for change, IMO.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 03:35 PM
Jan 2021

Yes, we need new, young leaders. But there is a learning curve for every new position in life. The middle of a national crisis is not the time to switch leaders from an experienced one to someone who will need time to get acclimated.

wnylib

(21,500 posts)
32. But this is not the moment for change, IMO.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 03:36 PM
Jan 2021

Yes, we need new, young leaders. But there is a learning curve for every new position in life. The middle of a national crisis is not the time to switch leaders from an experienced one to someone who will need time to get acclimated.

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. I just looked it up. Yes, O'Neill holds the longest consecutive tenure, five terms...
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 07:31 PM
Jan 2021

Henry Clay was elected Speaker to six terms, but served just about 10-1/2 years, and left the House for a term in the middle of that period.

Sam Rayburn served more than any other Speaker, divided among three periods - 1940-1947, 1949 to 1953, and 1955-1961.

So, with Pelosi now in her fourth term as Speaker it appears that she's #4 with respect to overall tenure of four terms.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
16. I'll second that. Now impeach the the MOFO again. Up or down vote.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:50 AM
Jan 2021

Play the hour long tape.

Up or down vote, please. Make it congressional record.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
34. Why? Who& what was standing in her way?
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 05:38 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe finish the story, because it wasn't for lack of trying on her part.

I applaud the great Democratic women leaders. They are the barrier breakers & they have the stories to back that up too.

Applause to all our Dem women who walked that path long before the "cool kids" arrived. 🙄

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
35. Wish it was, but not true...
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 06:21 PM
Jan 2021

March 2019

"I'm not for impeachment," Pelosi said. "This is news. I'm going to give you some news right now because I haven't said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I've been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he's just not worth it."

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
36. There were reasons it was declined & since we have no access to what the Leaders were privy to..
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 07:53 PM
Jan 2021

We know so little about what & why.
We'll never know because we can't know it all.

I'll stick with trusting Speaker Pelosi on her choice, given the security info she & Dem leaders were given.

As far as those who can't seem to bring themselves to applaud even one of the remarkable skillsets of Speaker Pellosi, her accomplishments in all her years serving the public, I have no use for the smear campaigns lodged against our Dem leaders to merely demean their characters in order to elevate their own cool kids, with zero experience to offer.

When all one has is character assassination to elevate themselves, then there's no point in hearing any more.

Yes. That m.o. has been overplayed ad~nauseum.

I'll stand with the proven leaders of the Democratic Party & those women who made it possible for the cool kids to have a seat at the table & a voice in the process.

Have these women got stories to tell of their early days, breaking thru barriers in a political heirarcy made for men!

Thank you to those remarkable Democratic women who lived thru the changes in our system.

Applause to Speaker Pelosi & those who walked that path with you.









 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
37. Wow that's a lot of blind faith! Have never demeaned
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:13 PM
Jan 2021

her character ever. Iin fact, I have never seen any Dem do that, despite loyalists repeating that inaccuracy!

Just time to step aside. She knows that and hopefully the rumors are right and she's grooming a progressive replacement and we only have to wait two years more.

Constructive criticism IS allowed here. We need a whole new canvas of leaders.

If our party couldn't beat a lying, impeached, woman abusing traitor who committed negligent homicide by 70%-30% something is ineffective! It is ALWAYS the prudent thing to look at your organization and assess assess and reassess!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
39. Before the cool kids shove them out the door, perhaps there's a lot of untold history to learn of.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:55 PM
Jan 2021

OUR PARTY DID IMPEACH TRUMP.
Thanks to Speaker Pelosi's House of Reps.

(Unlike Sarandon & Nina claim, ..no the 2 Parties are NOT the same.)( Oh ya, & Biden is not "a bowl of shit" ) nina turner quote 2020 Primary


Your statement from above:
"If our party couldn't beat a lying, impeached, woman abusing traitor who committed negligent homicide by 70%-30% something is ineffective! It is ALWAYS the prudent thing to look at your organization and assess assess and reassess!"

Our Democratic Party lead by Speaker Pelosi DID Indeed Impeach Trump. Talk to the Republican lead Senate for why they failed. That's not Pelosi's house. She & our Democratic House succeeded in their effort.


Facts matter, btw

Off to my ignore list with ya

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
42. ???? Impeachment on only two charges 3 years into term??
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:05 AM
Jan 2021

That is laughable, sorry.

Brilliant, all encompassing articles introduced in the House on Nov 15, 2017! By Steve Cohen D-TN and other prescient reps.

Few had the insight that he and others did back then. That trump had to be stopped or things would get progressively worse. And his approvals were the lowest ever under 40. They never got that low again until maybe now.

Something I will always remember...an interview of a republican after we expressed no outrage nor did not act after Mueller report. They said, " No I didn't read report, I figure if anything bad, the Dems would have done something".

Never forget that.

The actual action when wrong is committed is sadly gone. Jeez he committed a blatant crime days ago and Jefferies this morning simply days " we are looking forward not backward"

George II

(67,782 posts)
47. So you basically answered the question yourself here:
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 10:42 AM
Jan 2021
"....unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he's just not worth it."



1. It wouldn't be bipartisan
2. He definitely is not worth it - he'll be out of office in two weeks from tomorrow.

And I'll add:

3. Impeachment requires hearings - one can't just introduce a one-hour tape on the floor of the House and then directly proceed to a vote for impeachment.

Here statement was in 2019, with a virtually unlimited amount of time. She/they/we now have a mere two weeks and I doubt the Senate would take it up before trump leaves office.

The audio of that call was just released on January 3, Biden will replace him on January 20. Do you really think something as involved as impeachment, which has occurred only THREE times in our ~240 year history, can be put together and proceed in a mere two weeks?

What's the point?
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
48. Yes! Until we have leaders who stand up to wrong, because
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jan 2021

they feel it in their souls, so strongly that they stand up, unequivocally, without looking at the consequences we will never grow in strength.

You can not teach it, you have to feel it. If a person can't see how trump unchecked went from a petty thief to a monster, there is nothing you can do.

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. We DO have leaders who stand up to wrong, but calling for an impeachment 15 days before trump....
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 05:11 PM
Jan 2021

....is out of office is asking the impossible. Even if the House could muster up a vote in the next week or so, do you really think that the Senate would hold the trial before trump is out of office.

How can you imply that Nancy Pelosi doesn't "feel it", she's probably the most politically savvy member of either house of either party.

She knows what she's doing, and in her six years so far as Speaker she hasn't pushed a single vote that she didn't know would work out for the Democrats.

Do you remember how long the process was last December through early February? It is physically impossible for the proceeding to take place in about two weeks. There have to be hearings, evidence presented, debate, a vote to advance to the floor of the House, then more debate, then a floor vote. THEN it goes to the Senate. By that time, even if it started this afternoon the vote to impeach wouldn't occur until after January 20.

You can't impeach someone who isn't in office.

I suspect you just have an issue with Nancy Pelosi and our Democratic leadership.

By the way, just this morning James Clyburn also came out with a statement saying that an impeachment would just be a waste of time.

cheezmaka

(737 posts)
33. Congratulations to Speaker Pelosi
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 05:28 PM
Jan 2021

She's "tough as nails" and is what's needed to deal with the ReTHUGlicans while Biden helps put this Nation back on track...

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