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Could Trump lose *everything*? (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Jan 2021 OP
Hard to say- I would think that most of his assets are essme Jan 2021 #1
Yup! Trump warns Raffensperger that "it's going to be very costly" Botany Jan 2021 #2
Deutsche Bank has signalled it won't be rolling the loans over (I think). . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #6
It all runs together doesn't it? Botany Jan 2021 #13
tRump's two handler's at DB announced then they would retire effective Jan 1, 2021 Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #15
You neglect something, no_hypocrisy jmowreader Jan 2021 #3
He just raised edhopper Jan 2021 #18
+1. dalton99a Jan 2021 #20
The banks and others suing him will be racing to get his properties, ad assets to cover their loses, duforsure Jan 2021 #4
It's naming rights arlyellowdog Jan 2021 #5
Guess it depends on how much his secrets are worth to Vlad. Vinca Jan 2021 #7
You are correct, it safeinOhio Jan 2021 #9
The old blues line comes to mind... "You can't lose Harker Jan 2021 #8
No Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #10
Trump is very leveraged Gothmog Jan 2021 #11
I wanna see tRump's life become a living hell Blue Owl Jan 2021 #12
Trump has lived on debt and bankruptcy his entire adult life. MineralMan Jan 2021 #14
He'll be reduced to grifting money off of his most ardent followers with click bait FSogol Jan 2021 #16
That appeal would run out pretty darned quickly, I think. MineralMan Jan 2021 #17
IDK, on the other site I frequent, he's pimping space bucks now... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #19
74 million voted for him. If half of them give him $10 a year, that's a lot of money dalton99a Jan 2021 #21

essme

(1,207 posts)
1. Hard to say- I would think that most of his assets are
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 07:20 AM
Jan 2021

"owned" by shell companies that his kids run/ own. More than likely a few are in Melania's and Ivana's names also.

Trump isn't completely stupid- he knows how to hide money, and use offshore accounts. He's a scam artist, pure and simple.

Botany

(71,811 posts)
2. Yup! Trump warns Raffensperger that "it's going to be very costly"
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 07:20 AM
Jan 2021

Trump warns Raffensperger that "it's going to be very costly" if he doesn't change the election results.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1345844414250442753.html

And don't forget that Deutsche Bank (Putin) is going to be calling in his loans too.

Botany

(71,811 posts)
13. It all runs together doesn't it?
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:23 AM
Jan 2021

I heard something about the Deutsche's loans to Trump and or the people who oversaw them
around the election and then about a month later but I can't process it all.

Bernardo de La Paz

(50,296 posts)
15. tRump's two handler's at DB announced then they would retire effective Jan 1, 2021
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:29 AM
Jan 2021

They were after Justice Kennedy's son who oversaw tRump's accounts at DB for a while.

jmowreader

(51,149 posts)
3. You neglect something, no_hypocrisy
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 07:21 AM
Jan 2021

Trump had to sign personal guarantees for roughly a half-billion in loans that he can't pay back under any circumstance. There is about to be a huge legal fight: does the plaintiff in a lawsuit Trump lost, an American bank, a German bank or a Russian bank who all have laid claim to Trump Tower get it?

edhopper

(34,427 posts)
18. He just raised
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:40 AM
Jan 2021

$300 million for his election fraud fund. He will use that to pay his debts.

And yes, he can do that.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
4. The banks and others suing him will be racing to get his properties, ad assets to cover their loses,
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 07:36 AM
Jan 2021

He'll be neck deep in fighting them for years. Then there's lawyer fee's for civil and criminal cases that he'll try to stiff them, while hiding money offshore and overseas. Putin is the one, if he cheated him, will have to worry about.

arlyellowdog

(1,165 posts)
5. It's naming rights
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 07:40 AM
Jan 2021

Trump doesn’t really own these properties. The Trump organization sells naming rights. I would think the Trump name is a negative now. Certainly, they are unloading the Trump Hotel in DC. Maybe it’s about the actual owners getting out of the licensing contracts. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/trump-worldwide-licensing/

Harker

(14,608 posts)
8. The old blues line comes to mind... "You can't lose
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 08:24 AM
Jan 2021

what you never had."

In his case, that includes a soul.

Johnny2X2X

(21,086 posts)
10. No
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 09:14 AM
Jan 2021

Trump made $Billions off his presidency, the IRS is never going to figure out the ways he monetized the Presidency.

From flat out selling state secrets to foreign countries, to no bid contracts handed out with kickbacks to his shell companies, to encouraging everyone to spend money at his businesses, the Presidency was a windfall for him.

We know he made money beause he said he was losing money over and over.

Blue Owl

(53,791 posts)
12. I wanna see tRump's life become a living hell
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 09:58 AM
Jan 2021

Full of daily humiliation and public exposure of the fraud he is and always has been

MineralMan

(147,030 posts)
14. Trump has lived on debt and bankruptcy his entire adult life.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jan 2021

He just borrows more money, using properties as collateral. He actually owns nothing. He's about to discover that loans can be called in and nobody is going to loan any more money to him, now that he won't be President.

He's about to go completely bankrupt, and he knows it.

FSogol

(46,056 posts)
16. He'll be reduced to grifting money off of his most ardent followers with click bait
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:35 AM
Jan 2021

type scams about the WH in exile and saving the children.

At least it will be less money pouring into legitimate RW candidates and PACs.

Wounded Bear

(60,060 posts)
19. IDK, on the other site I frequent, he's pimping space bucks now...
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jan 2021

Selling $2 bill replicas advertising the US Space Force or something.

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