Trump using the military to stay in power?

[Cyrano]

Ten former Secretary's of State have warned Trump about using the military. And in a brief report on TV on Saturday, it was reported that an unnamed military official told Trump, "You can't do that sir." DO WHAT???

What has Trump already tried to do with the military, and still planning to do with the military that we don't know about? Evidently, the 10 ex Secretary's of State know something we don't know, but they're not saying anything about it publicly.

Here's a link to the WaPo where they issue a warning to Trump about use of the military, but aside from that, nothing specific is mentioned.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/10-former-defense-secretaries-military-peaceful-transfer-of-power/2021/01/03/2a23d52e-4c4d-11eb-a9f4-0e668b9772ba_story.html

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

1. I kinda viewed it as a...

side eye statement to the military. Remember your oath.

[SallyHemmings]

3. I agree with you

No one can get through to Trump.

[Voltaire2]

2. The fact that 10 former SoS felt the need to issue this statement is fucking alarming as hell.

[treestar]

4. More proof he does not really understand the US constitution

He thinks it is like those countries where the military can back a coup.

The military already told him no.

[Johnny2X2X]

16. A coup means the Constitution doesn't matter

Every country has laws that get ignored when there is a military coup. The US Constitution is not what will stop a coup, just the leaders of the military not going along is what prevents it.

I don't think we're in that territory, but Dick Cheney and 10 former military leaders thought it necessary to write an op-ed in the Post this weekend reminding our current military leaders of their oaths against this type of behavior, that alone is chilling.

[treestar]

18. True. Dotard does not have the relationship

with the military that he would need. Whoa, even Darth Cheney is against it!

[Iliyah]

5. Well sane Americans knew this was an option for shithole . .

shithole even got republican politicians backing him to name a few Nunez and Jordan from the House side. Ron Johnson, Cruz and more on the Senate side.

The military heads have been aware of this "coup" for awhile.

Good to know majority of the military ain't gonna let this happen, and I'm pretty sure the military knows the reason for the murderer's pardons.

[empedocles]

6. There was Andrew 'old Hickory' Jackson

then theere is, Donald 'shithole' Trump

[C_U_L8R]

7. He just wants to take a few nukes back to Merde Largo.

As keepsakes.

[woodsprite]

9. He'll have the nuclear football AND Air Force 1 (or Angel 1) on inauguration day.

Is there a way that the military can disable the football or change the codes if he absconds with the controls?

[sarisataka]

10. Do you really think

He can personally fire missiles from the "football"?

[woodsprite]

12. No, but I'm not naive enough to think that rogue troops embedded in many

places possibly with appropriate security clearances don't exist. I personally have 3 nephews in the military (Coast Guard, Army Rangers, and Army vehicle maintenance), am related (extended family) to 2 Reserve officers and a retired Army Captain who are all tRumpers and believe all the crap he and Qanon spew.

[NYC Liberal]

15. All the codes change the second the clock strikes noon on 1/20

and he has no more control. There is a second football that will be with Biden that will have the new active codes.

[JHB]

8. See a thread from yesterday:

It's scuttlebutt from a DUer's family member of the "as much as I can say, which isn't much" variety, but it fits in with what the former Secretaries are saying.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100214800086

[brooklynite]

11. If Trump had tried something, you'd have heard about it.

Every other stunt he's tried has leaked out.

[Corgigal]

13. It's Trump's Hail Mary pass.

I can’t imagine how he won’t attempt it. I don’t know what scares me more, his attempt with our military, or when his broken brain figures out that nothing will work.

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. It was 10 Sec of Defense, not state. Nt

[franzwohlgemuth]

17. Well

The Posse Comitatus Act 18 U.S.C. § 1385 (The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes which limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.) Explicitly stops him there.

Insurrection act (The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the President of the United States to deploy U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection, and rebellion. With the act explicitly stating the state that any troops are deployed in has to ask for the assistance.) Stops him there.

Any person in the military that actually cares about honor would recognize that any order from Trump to deploy within the USA is an illegal order, and they have every legal right to refuse to carry out said orders.