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Acosta: "The WH made 18 attempts to call GA sec of state" (Original Post) Leghorn21 Jan 2021 OP
I expect that they knew what was incoming BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #1
And a tape machine ready to go to before taking the call too. Botany Jan 2021 #10
Probably not using "tape" anymore BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #11
I still use the word "footage." Harker Jan 2021 #15
Oh I still use "tape" BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #17
And I thought I'd always be Harker Jan 2021 #35
That one bugs me too. It's a curse. CaptainTruth Jan 2021 #39
Just like that R governor who had "Hail to the Chief" as his ringtone Ilsa Jan 2021 #2
I think it was Ducey of Arizona. catbyte Jan 2021 #32
After a investigation takes place, duforsure Jan 2021 #3
Yes but, this can't be swept under the rug. gab13by13 Jan 2021 #5
I'm sure he also called putin for advice. And ukraine, just because. unblock Jan 2021 #6
A friend who is a retired state department employee luvtheGWN Jan 2021 #21
Yes, I'm sure he did. He invited the MI folks to the WH solely to avoid the trap he walked into now. machoneman Jan 2021 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author machoneman Jan 2021 #27
Desperate Donny's a seditious stalker Blue Owl Jan 2021 #4
Entirely off topic but when I see your little avatar Bettie Jan 2021 #7
SAME HERE! bluestarone Jan 2021 #18
Wisconsin for me Bettie Jan 2021 #37
Right on! Blue Owl Jan 2021 #41
Yup, stalker is the word that comes to mind bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #13
I would have liked a bug when George talked with Jeb exboyfil Jan 2021 #8
Clearly entrapment by Raffensperger. yellowcanine Jan 2021 #9
Lol your reply title got me to click on it berni_mccoy Jan 2021 #14
Trump assumed all repubs would go along. JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #12
They know what gang he runs with and wnylib Jan 2021 #38
Confirms conspiracy and premeditation. berni_mccoy Jan 2021 #16
This!👆 SheltieLover Jan 2021 #19
★★★★ JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #40
Paul only committed betrayal THREE times. Tommymac Jan 2021 #20
FIY Nonhlanhla Jan 2021 #43
They really wanted ask him to do a little favour & tell him he got a fine little state dere Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #22
Just STOP for a second..... Chipper Chat Jan 2021 #23
The question is -- why wait till now? ananda Jan 2021 #24
Maybe the "Contribute to legal defense grift slowing down? 🤢🤮 OhNo-Really Jan 2021 #31
My theory ScratchCat Jan 2021 #34
I thought the White House Switchboard was able to track down anyone... brooklynite Jan 2021 #25
Hats off to Raffensperger for doing his sworn duty. BarbD Jan 2021 #28
constant cravings? yuiyoshida Jan 2021 #29
Mens Rea -Love When Trump says "I don't want to know names" OhNo-Really Jan 2021 #30
Have we heard anything about the GA AG considering charges? Danascot Jan 2021 #33
KICK orangecrush Jan 2021 #36
Just A Dumb Spoiled Sociopath colsohlibgal Jan 2021 #42

BumRushDaShow

(129,142 posts)
1. I expect that they knew what was incoming
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 09:57 AM
Jan 2021

and got all their legal ducks in a row (including rehearsing the responses) before finally accepting that last call.

BumRushDaShow

(129,142 posts)
17. Oh I still use "tape"
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:08 AM
Jan 2021

"dial", "drop a dime", "double-nickel bridge" (for a local bridge here that no longer has a 10 cent toll but a $4 toll now)...

Long time habits are hard to break.

ETA - I still tease my niece about the time when she was little and my mother had asked her to hand her a "tablet" and my niece handed her my old ipad, and my mom had to show her what a paper "tablet" looked like.

CaptainTruth

(6,594 posts)
39. That one bugs me too. It's a curse.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

Blame it on years in the audio biz, being an engineer, & being a musician & studio owner, it bugs me when folks call a "recording" a "tape."

I have plenty of legacy studio tapes, reel-to-reel analog multitrack, ADAT 8 track digital, DAT stereo digital, heck even some old 4 track analog cassettes of things I recorded with friends in high school. Those are all tapes. Things I record in the studio on hard disk or on location using a portable solid state recorder or even the things I record on my cell phone are not tapes, there's no tape involved in the process, they're recordings.

To me it's like saying "I'm riding my bicycle to the store" when you're actually driving your car to the store. Both are vehicles, but a bicycle is not a car.

Thank you for attending my TED talk.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
2. Just like that R governor who had "Hail to the Chief" as his ringtone
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 09:59 AM
Jan 2021

for when killa con would call. He got a call in the middle of signing election certification (?) and put his phone on mute.

No one wants to talk to you, Donald!

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. After a investigation takes place,
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:01 AM
Jan 2021

I believe we'll learn he's called many others trying to shake them down to help him, including politicians, judges, Supreme Court Justices, people in the DOJ, and many others. I would be shocked if trump doesn't have others compromised forcing them for help, including Cruz.

gab13by13

(21,362 posts)
5. Yes but, this can't be swept under the rug.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:05 AM
Jan 2021

A comprehensive investigation needs to be had. What Trump is doing is called a coup and we need to hold him and his enablers accountable or this will happen again.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
21. A friend who is a retired state department employee
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:28 AM
Jan 2021

told me she is quite sure similar calls were made to the other states tRump lost. And in fact Michigan reps even made a special trip to the White House for a shakedown.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
26. Yes, I'm sure he did. He invited the MI folks to the WH solely to avoid the trap he walked into now.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:51 AM
Jan 2021

Also, only he could record his conversation while in the WH as all visitors are scanned and searched before seeing his Eminence. They could not record but he did for sure.

Response to luvtheGWN (Reply #21)

Bettie

(16,111 posts)
7. Entirely off topic but when I see your little avatar
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:07 AM
Jan 2021

it reminds me of grocery shopping as a child with both of my grandmothers at Red Owl grocery store.

Makes me smile every time.

Oh, and Donny is a giant walking dumpster fire.

Bettie

(16,111 posts)
37. Wisconsin for me
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jan 2021

but, I loved going to the store with both of my grandmas.

And that little owl always makes me smile.

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
8. I would have liked a bug when George talked with Jeb
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:08 AM
Jan 2021

about Florida. The Bush's have much smarter people around them so it would never get out, but I bet it would curl the hair.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
14. Lol your reply title got me to click on it
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:51 AM
Jan 2021

And as I was doing it I was thinking this better be sarcasm!

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
12. Trump assumed all repubs would go along.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jan 2021

Turns out they don't want to be in on the cover up.
How do those bus tires feel, Donald?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
16. Confirms conspiracy and premeditation.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 10:53 AM
Jan 2021

Everyone on Trump’s side of the call committed a crime as a conspiracy.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
19. This!👆
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:20 AM
Jan 2021

They are desperate to avoid prosecution.

They would not want to give up the gravy train anyway, but the prospect of facing the music for treason & grifting is likely not pleasant.

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
40. ★★★★
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 02:59 PM
Jan 2021

There has to be some example as a detriment to future administrations that think anything the boss wants is OK.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
43. FIY
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 02:05 AM
Jan 2021

Not that it’s relevant to the thread, but Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus once. It was the Apostle Peter who denied him 3 times.

Sorry, nerd here! 😊

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,013 posts)
22. They really wanted ask him to do a little favour & tell him he got a fine little state dere
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:35 AM
Jan 2021

Dom tRump wuz just tryin' tuh protect Brad from "big risks" of bad legal & political stuff that might, you know, happen.

Chipper Chat

(9,682 posts)
23. Just STOP for a second.....
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jan 2021

What if Gore had called the SOS of Tennessee in December of 2000 and asked the same thing.
The Republicans would have gone ballistic. And also most American democrats.

ScratchCat

(1,990 posts)
34. My theory
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:19 PM
Jan 2021

The timing of this call and the 12 Republican Senators "announcement" is no coincidence. Trump probably told them he had several states ready to announce they were going to "audit" or "review" the results and those idiots believed him, thinking they had "cover" for the stupid "10 day emergency audit" where they could then argue that the certification had to be stopped on 01/06 because States were going to change their results. So he then starts calling Georgia, Michigan, Arizona and Pennsylvania SOS's.

brooklynite

(94,608 posts)
25. I thought the White House Switchboard was able to track down anyone...
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:49 AM
Jan 2021

I wonder if this was Trump placing his own calls on his cell phone.

BarbD

(1,193 posts)
28. Hats off to Raffensperger for doing his sworn duty.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jan 2021

A clear contrast to the treason of the republicans who are defying their sworn oath to uphold the Constitution.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
30. Mens Rea -Love When Trump says "I don't want to know names"
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jan 2021

Seeking “plausible denial ability”

Intent noted!

Imo making the call with intent to discredit certification IS the crime

The call dialogue satisfy Mens Rea

“the act is not culpable unless the mind is guilty".

Trump’s #decision to speak directly to the #Georgia SoS etc, & to dominate even allude to charging GA SOS criminally in the 1 hr call IS the #crime.

Trump can also sue his lawyers for incompetence, true?



Danascot

(4,690 posts)
33. Have we heard anything about the GA AG considering charges?
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:17 PM
Jan 2021

DiaperDon committed a serious and obvious violation of GA election law. We should be putting pressure on Chris Carr GA AG to pursue charges.


colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
42. Just A Dumb Spoiled Sociopath
Tue Jan 5, 2021, 01:14 AM
Jan 2021

I hope he rots in jail. I hope he gets charged the minute Joe takes over....just over two weeks to go now.

I wouldn’t be shocked if his trophy wife dumps him by February.

Only Hitler and a handful of other despots challenge his level of Sociopathy but he is by a wide margin the dumbest.

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