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BigBearJohn

(11,410 posts)
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:37 PM Jan 2021

Impeach the president again. Removal from office wouldn't be the goal this time. ----

If ever a presidential act qualified for impeachment, it would be openly trying to reverse an election outcome. While it sounds almost bizarre to make such a suggestion when the president’s term is over in two months, the move would have a useful byproduct: The Senate could prevent Trump from running again in 2024.

The impeachment clause of the Constitution allows the Senate to impose two possible punishments: “removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.” While two-thirds of the Senate is required for removal from office in an impeachment trial, precedents involving the impeachment of judges indicate that only a majority vote would be required to make the penalty a disqualification from future office.

SOURCE: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/11/21/opinion/impeach-president-again/

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Impeach the president again. Removal from office wouldn't be the goal this time. ---- (Original Post) BigBearJohn Jan 2021 OP
Better to wait til he is out of office and charge/convict him with a felony... cbdo2007 Jan 2021 #1
You can run an election campaign from prison... N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2021 #6
I'm not worried about him running a campaign.... cbdo2007 Jan 2021 #18
You would think Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #2
They've turned themselves into the Party of Ahab and Ahab scares them. JHB Jan 2021 #4
Unless a second vote by the Senate barring him from holding office again, dware Jan 2021 #15
Ok, makes sense. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #16
The way it works really sucks, dware Jan 2021 #17
Pretty much, same answer. There's nothing T---- can do they won't support. ffr Jan 2021 #3
He will be out of office in 16 days...impeachment would be a gift to him. Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #5
How so? n/t EndlessWire Jan 2021 #9
I like that idea.......impeached twice, AND lost popular vote twice..... a kennedy Jan 2021 #7
They can impeach him after Jan 20 too soothsayer Jan 2021 #8
McConnell wouldn't allow the vote. Personally, we need to see Trump jailed. Firestorm49 Jan 2021 #10
I agree 1000000% BigBearJohn Jan 2021 #13
They no longer have Perdue's vote. So that's one. lostnfound Jan 2021 #14
Precisely malaise Jan 2021 #11
Exactly servermsh Jan 2021 #12

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
1. Better to wait til he is out of office and charge/convict him with a felony...
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jan 2021

and put him in jail then he wont' be able to run again anyways.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,747 posts)
6. You can run an election campaign from prison...
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jan 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche_U.S._presidential_campaigns


1992[edit]
In 1992, LaRouche became the second person in U.S. history (after Eugene Debs) to run for president from a prison cell. Classical violinist Norbert Brainin performed a benefit concert on his behalf in Washington, D.C.; the Washington Post reviewer praised his musicianship while condemning his political message. LaRouche's running mate, who did the active campaigning, was the American Civil Rights Movement leader, Reverend James Bevel.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
18. I'm not worried about him running a campaign....
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 01:30 PM
Jan 2021

all but his craziest crazies will vote for him in prison lol.

Turin_C3PO

(14,009 posts)
2. You would think
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:39 PM
Jan 2021

that some of the more ambitious Rethug senators would support conviction because it would remove Trump as 2024 competition.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
4. They've turned themselves into the Party of Ahab and Ahab scares them.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jan 2021

No, Ahab isn't Trump.

Ahab is the base.

dware

(12,416 posts)
15. Unless a second vote by the Senate barring him from holding office again,
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 01:12 PM
Jan 2021

he most certainly can run again in 2024, even if he's convicted and removed.

dware

(12,416 posts)
17. The way it works really sucks,
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 01:22 PM
Jan 2021

just conviction and removal should be enough to prevent holding office ever again, there shouldn't have to be a second vote.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
3. Pretty much, same answer. There's nothing T---- can do they won't support.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jan 2021

So impeach him again, make it congressional record and put each of the GOP/Cult45 seditionists on record.

Biden will be #46.

SHAME on them!

a kennedy

(29,678 posts)
7. I like that idea.......impeached twice, AND lost popular vote twice.....
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jan 2021

ya know like a twofer loser. Did I spell twofer right?? And I did correct tofer.

Firestorm49

(4,035 posts)
10. McConnell wouldn't allow the vote. Personally, we need to see Trump jailed.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:47 PM
Jan 2021

Screw the “we need to move on” mindset. Trump has ushered in perilous times for us and IMHO, the country deserves a strong response just to illustrate that there is no place for a dictatorship in America.

lostnfound

(16,185 posts)
14. They no longer have Perdue's vote. So that's one.
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 01:08 PM
Jan 2021

There may be a couple Republican senators that don’t want trump running in 2024.

servermsh

(913 posts)
12. Exactly
Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:49 PM
Jan 2021

And everyone calling for no impeachment is once again setting the precedent that this behavior is not impeachable.

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