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(980 posts)
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:02 AM Jan 2021

Don't be so complacent folks. Even if Dems have House/Senate/Presidency

Even when the Dems have that slim majority in the Senate, there are still Dems who often vote with the Cons, so there is still work to do. People like Joe Manchin more often than not, vote with RepubliCONs. We should not sit on our butts. We must remain active. If we are not active, and participate in our democracy, there are very well funded powers who will take it from us. This has been tried many times, and often we have escaped by the skin of our teeth. We must remain vigilant, or our democracy crumbles to nothingness.

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Don't be so complacent folks. Even if Dems have House/Senate/Presidency (Original Post) RocRizzo55 Jan 2021 OP
Agree judesedit Jan 2021 #1
I would think the last 4 years taught people not to be complacent but... In It to Win It Jan 2021 #2
It's been what - 10 hours? Now we're too complacent? Blues Heron Jan 2021 #3
You don't get it. RocRizzo55 Jan 2021 #16
Thank God you are here to educate us StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #43
No one is being complacent. Thanks for your concern. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #4
My sentiment! nt jrthin Jan 2021 #10
My sentiment also. You nailed it. c-rational Jan 2021 #11
So true! Nt USALiberal Jan 2021 #22
this llashram Jan 2021 #5
That was a Racial thing Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #9
yep llashram Jan 2021 #12
My Congressman in Utah at the time Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #13
had to do a quickquick study llashram Jan 2021 #19
That was Joe and Hyram Smith Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #26
aaahhhh, yeah okay llashram Jan 2021 #33
Learned decades ago, Wellstone ruled Jan 2021 #34
no problem llashram Jan 2021 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #6
They have primaried Manchin in the past RocRizzo55 Jan 2021 #17
Any other Dem edhopper Jan 2021 #31
Can we have a brief moment of satisfied anticipation before we carry on? bluedigger Jan 2021 #7
Apparently, not StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #44
I'm not worried. ananda Jan 2021 #8
Geez, let us celebrate. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #14
+100,000 mtnsnake Jan 2021 #15
Don't just enjoy now RocRizzo55 Jan 2021 #18
Let's savor and bask in the wins for a couple days. THEN we can get back to being wary of onetexan Jan 2021 #20
Manchin voted for ACA... brooklynite Jan 2021 #21
Exactly. Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #24
We need all the help we can get empedocles Jan 2021 #25
FFS - we are enjoying ourselves and celebrating today malaise Jan 2021 #23
Agree! Silver Gaia Jan 2021 #28
Well said malaise Jan 2021 #29
Until last night, we had to put up with handwringing, naysaying and "We're DOOMED!" StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #45
You nailed it malaise Jan 2021 #46
I'm sorry you are so concerned this morning obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #27
give it a fucking minute, would you? bigtree Jan 2021 #30
Amen to that. nt mtnsnake Jan 2021 #36
If Joe Manchin wasn't a Dem, we wouldn't have majority Justice Jan 2021 #32
it may be a reality bigtree Jan 2021 #42
DINOs like Manchin will need constant reminders that we are watching - and we are active. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #35
Who is being complacent? Happy Hoosier Jan 2021 #37
Really, 141 posts? We don't need a scolding from you today. maxsolomon Jan 2021 #39
I am less complacent than you. LexVegas Jan 2021 #40
Who's being complacent? StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #41


(6,265 posts)
12. yep
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:14 AM
Jan 2021

still...my distrust of them abounds no matter the racial implications...that's just me. "once burned, twice shy"


Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. My Congressman in Utah at the time
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jan 2021

refused to attend Obama's Inaugural and the next day did a telephone town hall. Most of the folks on the town hall that night burned his sorry ass. But,when your a appointee of Temple Square,I guess you get what you see.


(6,265 posts)
19. had to do a quickquick study
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

got the history, learned something new. Yet knew about Brigham Young and his discoveries...


Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
26. That was Joe and Hyram Smith
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:42 AM
Jan 2021

Young was known for his Massacre of the Flancher Wagon Train at Mountain Meadows as well as bounties on Natives.


(6,265 posts)
33. aaahhhh, yeah okay
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jan 2021

vague memories of reading about when I was studying religions deemed cults by some Protestant mainstream religious organizations. Blood, bounties and religion. So intertwined. Current VP being one
of this religion always made me very wary. Hopefully gone soon and soon forgotten. Onward always having one eye over the shoulder...can't trust those rightwingers...


(6,265 posts)
38. no problem
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:05 PM
Jan 2021

I have deep reservations of that faction of Christianity myself. Having been one, at a period of time in this life, I commiserate. They are the original run rough hod over everyone with my faith or not, "the end is nigh". Maybe so, maybe no. There is NO EXCUSE in letting whole groups wither while claiming some sort of racial superiority in understanding the concept of god. Racism, sexism, lack of general compassion, it's in God's hands now they would say to me. I always said, yeah mine too. Gave the Creator its due but never forgetting I have responsibilities to others also. Don't hurt them, they have rights, also under any God definition and don't deserve pain and misery by humans in a god's name...like say Spanish Inquisition misery that burned alive over 20,000 alleged witches during its religious terror reign...terror manmade, I could never believe god-ordained no matter what was/is written in any Holy Book.

Sorry, no good remembrances there. I digressed.

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(980 posts)
17. They have primaried Manchin in the past
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:25 AM
Jan 2021

and lost. What makes you think that things have changed so much?



(980 posts)
18. Don't just enjoy now
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:26 AM
Jan 2021

But plan how to keep what you have, and work for what we have already lost.
Don't enjoy. Plan for the future!


(95,557 posts)
21. Manchin voted for ACA...
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:27 AM
Jan 2021

Manchin voted to Convict Trump after he was Impeached...

Manchin voted against Trump's tax cuts...

Definitely worth keeping a suspicious eye one him.


(14,289 posts)
24. Exactly.
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:29 AM
Jan 2021

I’m not exactly up on his voting record but I’d bet he votes with us more often than not.


(270,639 posts)
23. FFS - we are enjoying ourselves and celebrating today
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:29 AM
Jan 2021

Spare me! We all know the road ahead is difficult.

Silver Gaia

(4,564 posts)
28. Agree!
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jan 2021

Maybe some mistake relief for complacency. The relief is profound, but it is NOT complacency.

What follows the relief is joy! Today we feast and make merry! We dance!



(18,486 posts)
45. Until last night, we had to put up with handwringing, naysaying and "We're DOOMED!"
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jan 2021

predictions from "concerned" Democrats. And now they've pivoted to "OK, so we didn't lose, but DON'T GET COMPLACENT!!!" from the same crowd.


(86,286 posts)
30. give it a fucking minute, would you?
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:49 AM
Jan 2021

...we've never seen a Congress like this, we've never seen a political age like this.

Cynicism isn't going to be the order of the day.


(7,188 posts)
32. If Joe Manchin wasn't a Dem, we wouldn't have majority
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 11:56 AM
Jan 2021

Just have to accept that you have wide views within the Dem party - and you are going to have to work with that.

Would much rather have Joe Manchin than a WV Republican Senator.


(86,286 posts)
42. it may be a reality
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 01:12 PM
Jan 2021

...but it would be a damn shame if someone leaning toward republicans when bills need advancing gets more deference than stalwart progressives who never betray the interests of the vast majority of our Democratic voters around the country..

Happy Hoosier

(7,610 posts)
37. Who is being complacent?
Wed Jan 6, 2021, 12:29 PM
Jan 2021

We have THIN majorities in the House, and presumably the Senate. We can't really accomplish what we want. But we can prevent a complete obstruction by McTurtle.

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