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Powerless to change result, Pence braces for Trump's fury
By Kevin Liptak and Kaitlan Collins, CNN
Updated 10:49 AM ET, Wed January 6, 2021
(CNN)Vice President Mike Pence enters the US Capitol on Wednesday for a date with history.
He has told President Donald Trump, the boss he's served obsequiously for four years, that he cannot submit to demands he overthrow the results of the election.
Trump, consumed with conspiracies and unsound legal advice, hasn't listened. He now appears ready to unleash his rage on a man who has thus far successfully avoided that fate.
It's an excruciating position for Trump's loyal lieutenant, who has his own political ambitions that, for now, appear to run opposite to his constitutional responsibilities. Even advisers closely aligned with Trump describe the coming assault against Pence as despicable.
Pence is due to arrive on Capitol Hill at 1 p.m. ET to preside over the joint session of Congress that will formalize President-elect Joe Biden's victory over Trump. As president of the Senate, his role is purely ceremonial: he will open envelopes, present them to "tellers" and announce the winner at the end.
It's a duty he's tried, unsuccessfully, to explain to Trump over several meetings stretching hours, beginning in the middle of last month. During a final huddle in the Oval Office on Tuesday, Pence again made clear that his powers do not allow him to block certification of Biden's win.
But Trump either heard something different or decided to ignore what Pence said. He released a statement late in the evening saying he and his vice president were in "total agreement" that he has the power to decertify votes.
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Powerless to change result, Pence braces for Trump's fury (Original Post)
babylonsister
Jan 2021
OP
If he had any balls he would do the count and resign, leaving Trump twisting in the wind.
Thomas Hurt
Jan 2021
#2
What are these "balls" allegedly belonging to Pence, of which you speak?
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2021
#13
Whatever. Pence is literally the ONLY person in DC he can't afford to fire. It's hilarious, actually
jpljr77
Jan 2021
#6
He couldn't fire Pence if he wanted to. Pence was elected, not appointed.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2021
#9
you're right. I knew that too. That was definitely a DUH moment on my part. LOL
Vivienne235729
Jan 2021
#11
it's all just hot air. he tried to fire amy comey barrett not long ago. all it was, was just him
Vivienne235729
Jan 2021
#14
Trump has no powers. It's just a lot of hot, angry air. I'd just ignore him. The worst that can
Vivienne235729
Jan 2021
#7
Thekaspervote
(32,817 posts)1. Leave town buddy..or better yet just resign ..NOW!
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)2. If he had any balls he would do the count and resign, leaving Trump twisting in the wind.
Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)4. Then who would pardon lil Donnie?
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)5. exactly
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,943 posts)13. What are these "balls" allegedly belonging to Pence, of which you speak?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,943 posts)3. Too bad, Mike. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
Or, in your case, flies.
jpljr77
(1,004 posts)6. Whatever. Pence is literally the ONLY person in DC he can't afford to fire. It's hilarious, actually
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,943 posts)9. He couldn't fire Pence if he wanted to. Pence was elected, not appointed.
Vivienne235729
(3,391 posts)11. you're right. I knew that too. That was definitely a DUH moment on my part. LOL
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,943 posts)12. That's not to say Trump won't try.
Vivienne235729
(3,391 posts)14. it's all just hot air. he tried to fire amy comey barrett not long ago. all it was, was just him
getting the satisfaction of saying it to her. not actually doing anything bc it is absurd.
Vivienne235729
(3,391 posts)7. Trump has no powers. It's just a lot of hot, angry air. I'd just ignore him. The worst that can
happen is trump fires him and sends his base frothing at the mouth. but they have the attention span of a gnat so I would take it with a grain of salt.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,943 posts)10. Trump can't fire Pence. He was elected.
central scrutinizer
(11,666 posts)8. That useless, self righteous prick
Deserves whatever he gets from whatever quarter. Fuck him.
mercuryblues
(14,552 posts)15. Does trump have the power to cancel
his AF2 flight to Europe?