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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 01:53 PM Jan 2021

Questions for your Trumper friends who insist yesterday was brought to us by Antifa

1. Were those Antifa members masquerading as Trump supporters at the rally where Trump spoke?

2. If they were Antifa, how did they fool Trump into thinking they were his supporters. Is he that naive and stupid? Are his event planners that incompetent?

3. Were there any Trump supporters there or were they all Antifa? How do you tell them apart?

4. If they weren't Antifa members, when did Antifa show up? Were they the ones who marched from the rally to Capitol? If so, how come the Trump people didn't notice them when they showed up and started marching?

5. If it wasn't Antifa who marched to the Capitol, at what point did the Trump supporters disperse and Antifa members took their place? During the march? When they arrived at the Capitol?

6. Where did all the Trump supporters go after Antifa replaced them in the crowds?

And if they're still sticking to their story ...

7. If it was Antifa and not Trump supporters who did this, how is it that a confirmed Trump supporter get shot by Capitol Police while climbing through broken glass trying to get into the Speaker's Lobby? What was she doing there, how did she get into the Capitol and why was she in a mob of Antifa members? And how did Capitol Police know to shoot her and not Antifa members who were pretending to be Trump supporters? How much does it suck for you that of all of those thousands of Antifa members at the Capitol, the only person who got shot was a Trump supporter.

8. And, finally, several people claiming to be Trump supporters posed for selfies and other photos in various offices, Statuary Hall, and on the House and Senate floor and posted the online. If they weren't really Trump supporters but were Antifa members pretending to be Trumpers, has anyone been able to identify them? Have the real Trump supporters they are impersonating come forward to proclaim they were not anywhere near the scene?

Hopefully, by the time you get through these questions, they will either have given up or their heads will have exploded because the logic can't survive the empty vacuums of their brains.

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Questions for your Trumper friends who insist yesterday was brought to us by Antifa (Original Post) StarfishSaver Jan 2021 OP
This is cilla4progress Jan 2021 #1
they lie d_r Jan 2021 #2
Or you could just tell them to pound sand superpatriotman Jan 2021 #3
All good questions! moose65 Jan 2021 #4
+1 pandr32 Jan 2021 #6
Just ask them this... dv421 Jan 2021 #5
LOL StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #9
All the people identified-named in the break & enter invasion are tRumpissers. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #7
Yeah, but that's because the Deep State targeted them while ignoring the Antifa people StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #10
Ball is in their court. Let them identify antifa invading the Capitol. They can't. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #13
They don't need to. It's on us to prove they were Trump supporters StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #14
Nah. You can shut up many trumpanzees in this way by pushing back. Ball truly is in their court Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #15
Wasn't it Mark Twain that said something to the effect.. IowaGuy Jan 2021 #24
I'm sure that's pretty close. Also an English dude: Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #26
+1 dalton99a Jan 2021 #11
Adam Christian Johnson, 36, of Parrish looting Speaker's lectern. tRumpanzee, not antifa Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #8
Clearly photoshopped or an Antifa person impersonating an innocent Trumper StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #12
Wrong......that's Via Getty! 🤣 Nevilledog Jan 2021 #21
I see what you did there StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #23
A reporter yesterday made a salient point. nolabear Jan 2021 #16
Good point StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #17
Poster on our local paper's FB page mcar Jan 2021 #18
Perfect plan- these antifasists are crafty sanatanadharma Jan 2021 #19
Or better yet StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #20
And, you had Baked Alaska, Nick Fuentes, Horn Guy, and lots of other known fascists obamanut2012 Jan 2021 #22
One additional question gratuitous Jan 2021 #25
... StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #27
look, I've watched enough MARVEL and the Flash to more than understand my share of time phenomenons Vivienne235729 Jan 2021 #28
These people don't know much about anti-fascists. David__77 Jan 2021 #29
If they were Antifa why did Trump resist calling the National Guard? nt chowder66 Jan 2021 #30
You win the thread. Sogo Jan 2021 #31

moose65

(3,174 posts)
4. All good questions!
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jan 2021

Also, why would Antifa want to disrupt the counting of the Electoral Votes? Why would they want to try to stop Biden from becoming President?

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,149 posts)
7. All the people identified-named in the break & enter invasion are tRumpissers.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:03 PM
Jan 2021

Ashli Babbitt - shot in act of break & enter at corridor portal

Richard "Big O" Barnett - sat in Speaker's offices, stole correspondence

Jake Angeli - Horned Q nut from Arizona

Adam Christian Johnson - looted Speaker's lectern and picture.

Derrick Evans - newly elected R West Virginia Delegate selfied storming Capitol

- a Pennsylvania Senator (prob only protest not invasion)

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
10. Yeah, but that's because the Deep State targeted them while ignoring the Antifa people
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:19 PM
Jan 2021

Never mind what they were doing there in the middle of an Antifa riot ...

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. They don't need to. It's on us to prove they were Trump supporters
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jan 2021

And if we can identify any of them as Trump supporters, it's up to us to prove they aren't Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters.

And even if we have conclusive proof that they are actually Trump supporters, it doesn't matter because that proof was planted by Antifa.

Because Trump. USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,149 posts)
15. Nah. You can shut up many trumpanzees in this way by pushing back. Ball truly is in their court
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:26 PM
Jan 2021

Mind, though, there are many trumpanzees who act like pigeons on a chessboard instead of engaging in true discussion.


IowaGuy

(779 posts)
24. Wasn't it Mark Twain that said something to the effect..
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:12 PM
Jan 2021

That it's easy to fool somebody, it's near impossible to convince them they've been fooled.
I probably mangled that quote somewhat, but that is the general idea of it.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,149 posts)
26. I'm sure that's pretty close. Also an English dude:
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jan 2021

"You can't reason somebody out of something they were never reasoned into."

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,149 posts)
8. Adam Christian Johnson, 36, of Parrish looting Speaker's lectern. tRumpanzee, not antifa
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:11 PM
Jan 2021
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142661429

Johnson lives in Parrish with his wife and their five children. His wife is a doctor.

Screenshots posted by social media users and taken from what appear to be Johnson’s Facebook feed show him documenting his trip to Washington D.C. to participate in protests surrounding the certification of the presidential election.

...

In one of the photos circulated online, the man can be seen posed alongside of a sign in the Capitol Building that reads: “Closed to all tours.”

The photo is simply captioned, “No.”


 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
12. Clearly photoshopped or an Antifa person impersonating an innocent Trumper
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jan 2021

We'll just wait for the REAL Christian Johnson to come forward and debunk this ...

nolabear

(42,023 posts)
16. A reporter yesterday made a salient point.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jan 2021

She was on the ground in the middle of it. Asked what surprised her she said it was the ages of the rioters. Many were in their 40s, 50s and even older. This ain’t Antifa, kids. This is right wing crackers who think a Confederate flag is a good thing.

mcar

(42,536 posts)
18. Poster on our local paper's FB page
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:31 PM
Jan 2021

said they couldn't be Trump supporters bc they were wearing black. Seriously.

sanatanadharma

(3,770 posts)
19. Perfect plan- these antifasists are crafty
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jan 2021

Allow the maga-seditionists to organize the gathering in DC and the assault upon the Capitol, then simply follow along behind the maga-seditionists who stormed the thin blue line, battered the doors, broke the windows and spread-out through the building.

Brilliant!
:snark:

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
20. Or better yet
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jan 2021

Assign each Antifa person their own MAGA and when that MAGA leaves peacefully before any violence starts, step into their place and pretend to be them and then proceed to attack and pillage. Everyone will think it's the MAGA doing it when it's really ANTIFA! Heh Heh Heh!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. One additional question
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jan 2021

Since you're saying that it was Antifa and not your ideological compatriots who stormed the Capitol Building, armed and smashing and looting, you're admitting that those actions were bad and unjustified under any circumstances?

Vivienne235729

(3,391 posts)
28. look, I've watched enough MARVEL and the Flash to more than understand my share of time phenomenons
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:36 PM
Jan 2021

This couldn't have been antifa bc certified (and I do mean that in mulitple ways) trumpers were talking about doing this VERY thing prior to the events that unfolded yesterday. So trumpers want the world to think that they talked, almost bragged about it, but then in the end it was antifa (and just the white males of antifa) that did it to make them look bad? yeaaa, no cigar. not even for creative effort.

David__77

(23,739 posts)
29. These people don't know much about anti-fascists.
Thu Jan 7, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jan 2021

The do know about disinformation. Each person claimed to be "antifa" was not. A couple were nazis who were pictured on an anti-fascist website providing information about different fascists. The idea that an "antifa" website would provide images of anti-fascists is stupid.

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