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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsQuestions for your Trumper friends who insist yesterday was brought to us by Antifa
1. Were those Antifa members masquerading as Trump supporters at the rally where Trump spoke?
2. If they were Antifa, how did they fool Trump into thinking they were his supporters. Is he that naive and stupid? Are his event planners that incompetent?
3. Were there any Trump supporters there or were they all Antifa? How do you tell them apart?
4. If they weren't Antifa members, when did Antifa show up? Were they the ones who marched from the rally to Capitol? If so, how come the Trump people didn't notice them when they showed up and started marching?
5. If it wasn't Antifa who marched to the Capitol, at what point did the Trump supporters disperse and Antifa members took their place? During the march? When they arrived at the Capitol?
6. Where did all the Trump supporters go after Antifa replaced them in the crowds?
And if they're still sticking to their story ...
7. If it was Antifa and not Trump supporters who did this, how is it that a confirmed Trump supporter get shot by Capitol Police while climbing through broken glass trying to get into the Speaker's Lobby? What was she doing there, how did she get into the Capitol and why was she in a mob of Antifa members? And how did Capitol Police know to shoot her and not Antifa members who were pretending to be Trump supporters? How much does it suck for you that of all of those thousands of Antifa members at the Capitol, the only person who got shot was a Trump supporter.
8. And, finally, several people claiming to be Trump supporters posed for selfies and other photos in various offices, Statuary Hall, and on the House and Senate floor and posted the online. If they weren't really Trump supporters but were Antifa members pretending to be Trumpers, has anyone been able to identify them? Have the real Trump supporters they are impersonating come forward to proclaim they were not anywhere near the scene?
Hopefully, by the time you get through these questions, they will either have given up or their heads will have exploded because the logic can't survive the empty vacuums of their brains.
cilla4progress
(24,861 posts)great. Thank you!
d_r
(6,907 posts)it is what they do. they know it wasn't antifa.
superpatriotman
(6,257 posts)Dont argue with crazy or wrestle with pigs.
moose65
(3,174 posts)Also, why would Antifa want to disrupt the counting of the Electoral Votes? Why would they want to try to stop Biden from becoming President?
dv421
(171 posts)Do you know the affordable care act provides access to mental health services?
I like that. Quicker, cleaner and faster ...
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,149 posts)Ashli Babbitt - shot in act of break & enter at corridor portal
Richard "Big O" Barnett - sat in Speaker's offices, stole correspondence
Jake Angeli - Horned Q nut from Arizona
Adam Christian Johnson - looted Speaker's lectern and picture.
Derrick Evans - newly elected R West Virginia Delegate selfied storming Capitol
- a Pennsylvania Senator (prob only protest not invasion)
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Never mind what they were doing there in the middle of an Antifa riot ...
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,149 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And if we can identify any of them as Trump supporters, it's up to us to prove they aren't Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters.
And even if we have conclusive proof that they are actually Trump supporters, it doesn't matter because that proof was planted by Antifa.
Because Trump. USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,149 posts)Mind, though, there are many trumpanzees who act like pigeons on a chessboard instead of engaging in true discussion.
IowaGuy
(779 posts)That it's easy to fool somebody, it's near impossible to convince them they've been fooled.
I probably mangled that quote somewhat, but that is the general idea of it.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,149 posts)"You can't reason somebody out of something they were never reasoned into."
dalton99a
(81,863 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,149 posts)Screenshots posted by social media users and taken from what appear to be Johnsons Facebook feed show him documenting his trip to Washington D.C. to participate in protests surrounding the certification of the presidential election.
...
In one of the photos circulated online, the man can be seen posed alongside of a sign in the Capitol Building that reads: Closed to all tours.
The photo is simply captioned, No.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)We'll just wait for the REAL Christian Johnson to come forward and debunk this ...
Nevilledog
(51,480 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)nolabear
(42,023 posts)She was on the ground in the middle of it. Asked what surprised her she said it was the ages of the rioters. Many were in their 40s, 50s and even older. This aint Antifa, kids. This is right wing crackers who think a Confederate flag is a good thing.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)You could look at these people and tell exactly who and what they were.
mcar
(42,536 posts)said they couldn't be Trump supporters bc they were wearing black. Seriously.
sanatanadharma
(3,770 posts)Allow the maga-seditionists to organize the gathering in DC and the assault upon the Capitol, then simply follow along behind the maga-seditionists who stormed the thin blue line, battered the doors, broke the windows and spread-out through the building.
Brilliant!
:snark:
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Assign each Antifa person their own MAGA and when that MAGA leaves peacefully before any violence starts, step into their place and pretend to be them and then proceed to attack and pillage. Everyone will think it's the MAGA doing it when it's really ANTIFA! Heh Heh Heh!
obamanut2012
(26,230 posts)They ain't antifa.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Since you're saying that it was Antifa and not your ideological compatriots who stormed the Capitol Building, armed and smashing and looting, you're admitting that those actions were bad and unjustified under any circumstances?
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Vivienne235729
(3,391 posts)This couldn't have been antifa bc certified (and I do mean that in mulitple ways) trumpers were talking about doing this VERY thing prior to the events that unfolded yesterday. So trumpers want the world to think that they talked, almost bragged about it, but then in the end it was antifa (and just the white males of antifa) that did it to make them look bad? yeaaa, no cigar. not even for creative effort.
David__77
(23,739 posts)The do know about disinformation. Each person claimed to be "antifa" was not. A couple were nazis who were pictured on an anti-fascist website providing information about different fascists. The idea that an "antifa" website would provide images of anti-fascists is stupid.