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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:32 PM Jan 2021

Confession: I once used a lie to create my own reality

It was a relatively harmless lie, but I needed it because of the situation I was in.

Many years ago, I was working for a very horrible boss, think Kevin Spacey in “Swimming With Sharks” on steroids. In order to save my own sanity, I needed to get out of that toxic workspace.

So without any truth to back it up, I floated a rumor that I was going to get a transfer. Pretty much everybody I told this to knew that it wasn’t true and that I sounded downright delusional at the time.

Maybe it was wishful thinking, but I was desperate to get out from under that tyrant. Eventually word of my pending “transfer” got around to a guy who needed a replacement for himself, so he called me up and asked me if I was interested in taking his place. Of course, I said yes and his boss contacted my boss’s boss and I was out of there.

Needless to say, my friends that knew I was lying about some pending mythical “transfer” were amazed that I actually pulled this thing off.

That was the only time that I willfully lied about something that I knew that everybody else knew wasn’t true to get what I wanted.

But it actually worked out for me and I got a better job with a much better boss.

Now, although it did work to my advantage that one time, since I’m not pathological, there’s no way that I could lie all the time in order to get whatever I wanted. Years later, I’m still rationalizing that one lie, because I know that it wasn’t my proudest moment.

However, seeing Trump and his cult shamelessly lie about everything for the last four years only indicates to me the dire consequences that have been wrought by those lies. Mostly the millions upon millions of people who have internalized them. These people are going out of their way to lie themselves into a “reality” that can’t possibly exist.

Trump didn’t win the election.

There was no mass voter fraud.

Wednesday we saw these same people try take these lies and fabricate a second term for Trump. It was seditious domestic terrorist attack on American democracy. Trump’s lies have fractured the nation for his own benefit. He doesn’t care who will suffer and die because of lies. All he cares about is cheating and lying to win.

Those calling for forgiveness for Trump and “national unity” are really begging for immunity. Which is the most dangerous thing we can give to him and his seditious mob. These people failed once, but they haven’t given up their lies. They’re going to persist with them until they succeed. They’re planning more attacks as I write this.

Inaction is national suicide.

I know that the right lie to the right people will sometimes succeed, because I did that myself. It’s the thing that scares me the most about Trump’s lying. Anyone who cares about the future of this nation should feel the same.

We’re at a crossroads right now. What are we going to do?

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Confession: I once used a lie to create my own reality (Original Post) MrScorpio Jan 2021 OP
several Dem congresspersons NJCher Jan 2021 #1
One of the biggest things I learned as I got older... joshcryer Jan 2021 #2
You can educate good people I_UndergroundPanther Jan 2021 #5
That Seems Tiny White Lie Territory ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #3
Trump counting on this guy's method lunasun Jan 2021 #4
How did the rumor result in the call from moonscape Jan 2021 #6
The "transfer" I lied about was to the same organization that the guy was in MrScorpio Jan 2021 #7
Gotcha, thanks! n/t moonscape Jan 2021 #8

NJCher

(35,722 posts)
1. several Dem congresspersons
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:36 PM
Jan 2021

Today were insisting that the liars go to their district and tell the truth, in public, about the election.

That's one step forward.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
2. One of the biggest things I learned as I got older...
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:39 PM
Jan 2021

...is that if you lie your way to the top and do the bare minimum you will get ahead. Somehow. Not chastising you for what you did but you learned at least part of that. Lying works. And that's why conservatives are so good at lying and still winning. It is just a nature of the universe, the cold dark uncompromising universe.

Even now though you realize that that lie got you ahead and it sucks and it's on your mind, which means you're a good person. But those people, they lie, and they believe their lies, and then their lies become their "truth." They don't feel bad about it. This is where the whole "basket of deplorables" comes from. It's people who, will, at any cost, do anything to get ahead, even if that means screwing over their fellow Americans.

What can we do? We can't do anything about those people who don't care about lying and cheating and being completely dishonest on everything. We can only nurture the good in people, and we need to resist that open, public, disdain from fellow Americans. When they openly advocate making it harder to get mail in ballots, when they openly advocate for closing polling places, when they openly use some of our own well meaning good people to make us angry at one another, we must resist it, we must resist it at all costs.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,480 posts)
5. You can educate good people
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:45 PM
Jan 2021

About how narcissitic authoritarian and sociopath people operate and the damage they do and why they need to be rejected and shunned everywhere they show up and play games and cause strife and suffering..

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
3. That Seems Tiny White Lie Territory
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 06:39 PM
Jan 2021

There was a legitimate grievance. No reason for me to think you were imagining it, especially since you complimented the new boss in your piece.
The situation we have with the radical right, is that they lie to get what they want while the things they want to change cause them no real grief.
Lying to get one's way due to imaginary complaints is very different than what you describe.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
6. How did the rumor result in the call from
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 07:49 PM
Jan 2021

the guy whp needed a replacement? Not trying to be dense, just am

Was it that you now seemed more desirable? He also could have thought you were taken and considered someone else, no?

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
7. The "transfer" I lied about was to the same organization that the guy was in
Sun Jan 10, 2021, 09:20 PM
Jan 2021

But to a different office. Someone told him that I was supposed to be going there and that it was only a matter of moving bodies around.

Again, none of it was true, but he thought it was. That’s why he called me with the offer. Needless to say, he did a bit of overselling, not knowing that I was going to accept his offer no matter what, in order to get from under that tyrant boss.

He needed a replacement pretty soon and he wasn’t getting any offers. Turned out that both of us were operating under some urgency. It worked out for both of us in the end.

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