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NNadir

(33,525 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:29 PM Jan 2021

Trump's Financial Troubles May Be Just Beginning

An article in The New Yorker: Trump’s Financial Troubles May Be Just Beginning

Some excerpts:

In Ernest Hemingway’s “The Sun Also Rises,” someone asks Mike Campbell, the troubled Scottish war veteran who is engaged to Lady Brett Ashley, how he ended up bankrupt. “Two ways,” Campbell replies. “Gradually, and then suddenly.” Campbell’s interlocutor goes on to ask what brought about his collapse. “Friends,” Campbell says. “I had a lot of friends. False friends. Then I had creditors, too. Probably had more creditors than anybody in England.”

It’s too early to determine whether Donald Trump might be headed for the same fate as the wretched Campbell, but there are intriguing parallels. Not so long ago, Trump also had lots of friends and creditors...

...His most important creditor was Deutsche Bank, which, during the past decade, had defied internal dissension and extended hundreds of millions of dollars of loans to him. On top of these invaluable relationships, Trump had nearly ninety million Twitter followers, a vast audience that appeared to provide lucrative possibilities for monetization after he left office.

But, in the week since Trump incited a mob of his supporters to attack the Capitol, he and his businesses have suffered a series of blows. Key corporate partners have abandoned him; some of his fellow-billionaires have spoken out against his sedition; Deutsche Bank has let it be known that it doesn’t want anything more to do with him; and Twitter stripped him of his following...

... Trump’s attempt at a Presidential “self-coup” came at what was already a troubled time for the Trump Organization, which has consistently struggled to eke out much in the way of taxable profits. As the coronavirus ravaged the travel and hospitality industries in 2020, Trump-owned hotels and golf resorts suffered along with other businesses in these sectors. Like other companies, the Trump Organization shuttered some of its properties for several months, including a hotel in Las Vegas and golf courses in Florida, Scotland, and Ireland. The virus also impacted two of Trump’s most valuable real-estate assets: a pair of prime office towers that he co-owns with Vornado Realty Trust...

...Shortly after Trump lost the election, according to the Washington Post, one of his closest business associates, the real-estate investor Tom Barrack, called Trump and advised him to abandon his efforts to overturn the result, and to opt, instead, for an “ ‘elegant’ exit...”

...Trump ignored it.

...After the deadly violence at the Capitol, on January 6th, the financial blowback on Trump came quickly. Within twenty-four hours, Shopify, the e-commerce provider, shut down a number of online stores affiliated with Trump, including ones that sold Trump campaign merchandise. A bigger blow for the President came last Sunday, when the P.G.A. of America, which has had a long-standing relationship with him, announced that the 2022 P.G.A. Championship, one of professional golf’s four major tournaments, would no longer be held at the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. Twenty-four hours later, the R. & A., the ruling body of golf outside of the United States, followed the P.G.A.’s lead and announced that, for the foreseeable future, the British Open would not be played at Turnberry, a famous old course that Trump owns in Scotland...
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Trump's Financial Troubles May Be Just Beginning (Original Post) NNadir Jan 2021 OP
Past presidents are able to make loads of money from public speaking engagements. Beakybird Jan 2021 #1
His relationship with right wing figures around the world may involve seeking asylum to avoid prison NNadir Jan 2021 #2
Yeah, well there's Interpol. I don't think any country would give him harbor except for North Korea. Beakybird Jan 2021 #3
His remarks on Islam probably preclude Saudi Arabia. Idi Amin, a Trumpian fellow... NNadir Jan 2021 #7
have you ever onethatcares Jan 2021 #19
Great point. Beakybird Jan 2021 #20
a cardboard cutout of him onethatcares Jan 2021 #21
;-) elleng Jan 2021 #4
Honestly Ohiogal Jan 2021 #5
All he needs to do is ask his Magats for money. apcalc Jan 2021 #6
I hope so. Niagara Jan 2021 #8
Trump DESERVES all the bad things coming his way..... ProudMNDemocrat Jan 2021 #9
I personally hope his legal problems will put him in prison. NNadir Jan 2021 #10
Murdoch or the Mercers will pay him. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #11
Don't hold your breath... sarchasm Jan 2021 #23
The billionaire edhopper Jan 2021 #12
+1. Real billionaires don't hawk steaks on TV and set up fake universities to scam people dalton99a Jan 2021 #13
I think we going to learn a lot about his real state in the coming year. NNadir Jan 2021 #14
aw demtenjeep Jan 2021 #15
Trump never had lots of friends. He had transactional acquaintances Marie Marie Jan 2021 #16
I love reading about his financial troubles. JI7 Jan 2021 #17
Whatever his fate it won't be bad enough. Hopefully long and painful. BSdetect Jan 2021 #18
We need to run ads warning any and all firms NOT to buy any Trump properties or face.... machoneman Jan 2021 #22

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
1. Past presidents are able to make loads of money from public speaking engagements.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:34 PM
Jan 2021

I know that the Ku Klux Klan would pay him to speak, but I'm wondering if a corporation would.

I bet there are a lot of right wing figures around the world who would pay a ton to have a picture taken with him and to speak at some conference, but it wouldn't be the big bucks.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
2. His relationship with right wing figures around the world may involve seeking asylum to avoid prison
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:35 PM
Jan 2021

Beakybird

(3,333 posts)
3. Yeah, well there's Interpol. I don't think any country would give him harbor except for North Korea.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:37 PM
Jan 2021

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
7. His remarks on Islam probably preclude Saudi Arabia. Idi Amin, a Trumpian fellow...
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:43 PM
Jan 2021

...if ever there was one, went there.

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
19. have you ever
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:17 AM
Jan 2021

tried to listen to his speeches? He'd be yakking about how a lot of people think he was the greatest thing ever and how no one ever gave him the two weeks he needed to get his act together.

People would not leave energized, they'd leave thinking "WTF?"

Seriously, have you read the transcripts of his rally yaks?

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
21. a cardboard cutout of him
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:52 AM
Jan 2021

would be as astute as he is.

Seriously, I tried to read one of them. The pauses, the repitition the stupidity was too much to handle.

he's not an orator by any stretch of the imagination

Ohiogal

(32,006 posts)
5. Honestly
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:41 PM
Jan 2021

Who would pay $ to listen to him give a speech? Two hours of him whining and airing all his usual grievances. I’d rather have a root canal.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
9. Trump DESERVES all the bad things coming his way.....
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 09:51 PM
Jan 2021

Financial woes. His brand and name for Licensing is for shit . His business is going down.

Legal problems at the Federal and State levels will keep him financially strapped and in court for years.

edhopper

(33,587 posts)
12. The billionaire
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:16 PM
Jan 2021

who needs to sell merchandise. Something doesn't add up. Like Trump being a billionaire.

dalton99a

(81,515 posts)
13. +1. Real billionaires don't hawk steaks on TV and set up fake universities to scam people
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:22 PM
Jan 2021

and steal from their charitable foundations

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
14. I think we going to learn a lot about his real state in the coming year.
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 11:41 PM
Jan 2021

We are also going to learn about the crimes of the last 4 years, including those that Barr buried in the last 2.

machoneman

(4,007 posts)
22. We need to run ads warning any and all firms NOT to buy any Trump properties or face....
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:43 PM
Jan 2021

...major backlash form the populace!

Force every one of Trump's properties into involuntary bankruptcy. Then, in court filings, bring into the creditor's pool all those small business men, contractors, painters, cooks, go-fers and more who he screwed out of legitimate monies for years. Make him pay back all he' s owed PLUS major interest due on all.

He'll end up with nothing!

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