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Swede

(33,257 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:30 AM Jan 2021

You're confused because you didn't see us flock to his rallies and cheer his smackdowns

Last edited Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:18 AM - Edit history (1)

We don't have matching hats, or "No More Malarkey" flags waving from the backs of our trucks. Do you know why? Because Biden isn't our tribal warlord.


A rant worth a million parlers. On edit, thank you DUer, DAngelo136 for the inof. This guys name is Matthew Cooke.


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You're confused because you didn't see us flock to his rallies and cheer his smackdowns (Original Post) Swede Jan 2021 OP
Brilliantly Nailed It down to the core. msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #1
This dude SweepPicker Jan 2021 #2
And, we aren't brainwashed cultists. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #3
Is that a question or a statement? Escurumbele Jan 2021 #45
Then call me brainwashed. But, I consider myself intelligent BECAUSE Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #51
You are so wrong. You do not know everything you need to know about every Republican. marie999 Jan 2021 #54
Can... can I choose based on the endorsements by the local Democratic Party? ahoysrcsm Jan 2021 #77
At least I have the confidence that they (the Democrat) will NOT vote in concert with a corrupt Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #79
Agreed. I don't gaf how good a job an R might do. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #78
I can't always isolate myself from repugs, but when I can, I do. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #80
Keep in mind that TR was hated by the rank-and-file Republicans Wednesdays Jan 2021 #56
Excellent. Not sure anyone who needs to hear this is capable Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #4
Exactly the problem. And if someone did hack this onto foxNews, unblock Jan 2021 #7
Right. Everything, really, gets sucked into the black hole of Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2021 #18
R&K Thank you. MerryBlooms Jan 2021 #5
K&R...for truth...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #6
"Your nightmare...." Rorey Jan 2021 #8
K&R onecaliberal Jan 2021 #9
His Name Is DAngelo136 Jan 2021 #10
Nice. Swede Jan 2021 #12
Thank you, good job finding him. Escurumbele Jan 2021 #47
He should be in Congress. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #58
I think he covered every single point except the lizard people. yardwork Jan 2021 #11
You mean...lizard people aren't real? PatrickforO Jan 2021 #30
kick! kentuck Jan 2021 #13
well stated! mdbl Jan 2021 #14
That is excellent! Lonestarblue Jan 2021 #15
You are so right. bearssoapbox Jan 2021 #72
Great Summation. cachukis Jan 2021 #16
Yuppers! denbot Jan 2021 #17
Wow, nailed it to the "T" W T F Jan 2021 #19
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2021 #20
Every point was exact truth Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #21
Outstanding! keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #22
"It is you" NightWatcher Jan 2021 #23
One problem.. albacore Jan 2021 #24
I really think you have a handle on this. infullview Jan 2021 #26
Correct. Too many Americans are unable to... JohnnyRingo Jan 2021 #42
I thought the same MyMission Jan 2021 #46
Hearing the truth hurts kurtcagle Jan 2021 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author nam78_two Jan 2021 #62
This was not for consumption by the brainwashed deplorables nor for our "choir" BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #66
Sloganeering is the gateway to propaganda. He stole that littlemissmartypants Jan 2021 #69
Great video, but I still don't understand how 75 million people can just throw away common sense. infullview Jan 2021 #25
Inpressive. Thank you sir. Spot on! n/t Paper Roses Jan 2021 #27
This needs to be WIDELY distributed.... ewagner Jan 2021 #28
Masterful! Here's his Facebook page. RobertDevereaux Jan 2021 #29
Outstanding! PatSeg Jan 2021 #31
Well written but, too many big words and too long for shit apple repugs to comprehend. Hotler Jan 2021 #32
We are confronted with a toxic suicidal death cult The Wizard Jan 2021 #33
That's it exactly. Susan Calvin Jan 2021 #40
You're confused because you didn't see us flock to his rallies and cheer his smackdowns justgamma Jan 2021 #34
He did mention (in passing) as one of the reasons for the low key Biden campaign robbob Jan 2021 #38
The big danger in the future will be Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #60
Wonderful oration of the past 4 years and the Republican downfall. Unfortunately Fla Dem Jan 2021 #35
KnR Hekate Jan 2021 #36
Awesome statement BlueJac Jan 2021 #37
Amen! PennyK Jan 2021 #39
To long for Trumpers. harumph Jan 2021 #41
It's devastating to hear truth spoken soberly and clearly, particularly the massive damage done... NNadir Jan 2021 #43
Lansing Michigan DownriverDem Jan 2021 #44
Here's a new one he posted: silverweb Jan 2021 #48
Hear, Hear! peggysue2 Jan 2021 #49
RW on a bipartisan forum I used to participate in - they were always trying Kashkakat v.2.0 Jan 2021 #50
This was most excellent. Some billionaires should buy airtime on every network and cable station beaglelover Jan 2021 #53
K&R !!! cp Jan 2021 #55
"That embodies all seven of the deadly sins, most of all pride." Got to love that comment.... RussellCattle Jan 2021 #57
Now if he could just say all that in Trumpspeak. lunatica Jan 2021 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author nam78_two Jan 2021 #61
Perfect demtenjeep Jan 2021 #63
Is he just preaching to the choir? LittleGirl Jan 2021 #64
Wow, that is great! liberal_mama Jan 2021 #65
Quite keen to get a "No More Malarkey" flag now... meadowlander Jan 2021 #67
That was absolutely brilliant! BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #68
Republicans ignore the truth, and the facts, because... AmyStrange Jan 2021 #70
A righteous rant MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #71
Wow! 'Nuff said. Nitram Jan 2021 #73
Wow, that was wonderful. Jay25 Jan 2021 #74
Wow, just wow Larissa Jan 2021 #75
I hear/see this logic for "how could Trump not have won".. see all the people at the rallies? Demovictory9 Jan 2021 #76

Escurumbele

(3,395 posts)
45. Is that a question or a statement?
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:27 PM
Jan 2021

But there is a way to find out.

If someone took their ballot and chose every Democrat without doing their due diligence, then maybe they are brainwashed.

Where I voted there was one local republican who had already been on the job and she had done a great job, on the other hand the Democratic candidate did not show well, so I voted for that one Republican. It takes us a couple of weeks to go through every person on our sample ballot, it is always harder to get info on judges, but we manage to do it at some point, and we we have completed our research we know we will be voting for the right people.

Let us not forget that Theodore Roosevelt was a republican, and most of us would have voted for him.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
51. Then call me brainwashed. But, I consider myself intelligent BECAUSE
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jan 2021

I vote straight Democratic ticket. There are NO good repukes. NONE. Not a one. And don't even try to bring up Romney. He may have a conscious at time, but he is a MF'er who gleamed his riches on the backs of laying off American workers.

It is what it is. That was THEN, this is NOW. There isn't ONE current repug that can be compared to Roosevelt.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
54. You are so wrong. You do not know everything you need to know about every Republican.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:46 PM
Jan 2021

You don't know everything you need to know about every Democrat. Just because someone calls himself/herself a Democrat doesn't mean that they will be good for the country, state, county, or city they are elected to.

ahoysrcsm

(787 posts)
77. Can... can I choose based on the endorsements by the local Democratic Party?
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 05:06 AM
Jan 2021

Also, can I rely on the endorsements by the local unions?

Sorry for the stutter, it bleeds through on typing as well.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,107 posts)
79. At least I have the confidence that they (the Democrat) will NOT vote in concert with a corrupt
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jan 2021

pResident. That is not always correct, but more so than not.

I will ALWAYS vote straight Democratic Party, just because the past has shown me that repukes are corrupt and do not vote in MY best interest.

And this is why we have elections. You vote your conscious and I will vote mine.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
78. Agreed. I don't gaf how good a job an R might do.
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 07:51 AM
Jan 2021

I also do my best not to do business with Rs, or use R doctors, lawyers, etc.

Anyone who can call themselves an R in this day and age is not deserving of any political power or trust.

The GOP supported & enabled Trump, who is a racist, misogynistic sociopath who probably has never even read the US Constitution and who, after countless other inexcusable acts, incited and cheered on the violent mob of insurrectionists who attacked our Capitol as part of an attempted coup.


Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
56. Keep in mind that TR was hated by the rank-and-file Republicans
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:23 PM
Jan 2021

Hence, his forming his own political party in 1912. Among other things, TR's progressive views were an anathema to everything Republican bigwigs stood for.

When McKinley died after his assassination, a prominent GOP senator exclaimed, "Now that damned cowboy will be president!"

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
4. Excellent. Not sure anyone who needs to hear this is capable
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:55 AM
Jan 2021

of hearing it, but I wish this would be played for every American.



Don't we have some hackerz who can substitute this for, oh, say Tucker Carlson's or Sean Hannity's A block some night soon?

unblock

(52,253 posts)
7. Exactly the problem. And if someone did hack this onto foxNews,
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:00 AM
Jan 2021

They would take it as all the proof they needed that antifa is real and taking over and omg....

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
18. Right. Everything, really, gets sucked into the black hole of
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:22 AM
Jan 2021

thier brainwashing. The first thing a cult tells you is that everyone else is lying to you.

They do need "reprogramming," but that's too much like conversion therapy, which we correctly reject.

It is far easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
8. "Your nightmare...."
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:00 AM
Jan 2021

"Your nightmare of brainwashed radical anti-American movement trying to destroy the country was you." - says it all.

DAngelo136

(265 posts)
10. His Name Is
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:02 AM
Jan 2021

Matthew Cooke. He's a documentarian. He is the writer-director of How to Make Money Selling Drugs, a documentary film which criticizes the war on drugs in the United States, and Survivors Guide to Prison, about the prison system.

Here's his website: https://www.matthewcooke.com/

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
11. I think he covered every single point except the lizard people.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:04 AM
Jan 2021

He did mention the Kraken. I'm following him on twitter now.

Lonestarblue

(10,011 posts)
15. That is excellent!
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:15 AM
Jan 2021

Most Trump supporters could listen to it and still not have a clue—too many big words for them. They are not the brightest bulbs.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
72. You are so right.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:51 PM
Jan 2021

Too many big words of more than 2 or 3 syllables and the vid is too long for the rethuglicon, Trumplethinskin's cultist attention span.

By the time he got to the second or third talking point they'd probably shoot the Satan in the teevee by shooting the "Satan in the teevee".

albacore

(2,399 posts)
24. One problem..
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:48 AM
Jan 2021

This piece is great...it puts it all together in one place. Best summation to date.
The problem is that it's preaching to the choir... the choir, of course, being people whose attention span is longer than a gnat's.
Anybody who has been following what has happened in this country since trump's campaign began in 2015 knows all this.
And the sad idiots who NEED to watch this won't. Because they can't focus that long.
trump's rallies were long, but they were comprised of dog-whistle-bumper-sticker-phrases that turned the crowd on, folded into long paragraphs that the faithful used to rest their brains.
You know the internet abbreviation tl;dr..? Too Long Didn't Read?
Well, the trumpers would say tl;cw. Too Long Couldn't Watch.

infullview

(981 posts)
26. I really think you have a handle on this.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:51 AM
Jan 2021

Like your theory. Sort of gives us the gnats-eye-view of things

JohnnyRingo

(18,636 posts)
42. Correct. Too many Americans are unable to...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:10 PM
Jan 2021

...focus on anything longer than a bumper sticker slogan, much like Trump himself.

Trump is a bullshit artist who was able to string a number of them together in a way that held their attention: Lock her up, USA USA USA, Make America Great Again, drain the swamp, build the wall, we are brainwashed morans! The list goes on & on.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
46. I thought the same
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:28 PM
Jan 2021

If this was broken down to several clips, cult 45 members might listen and hear.

It's very good, comprehensive, but the audience he needs to reach doesn't have the attention span to listen or follow along for the entire video. The excellent points get smeared.
Like babies, it needs to be spoon-fed in smaller doses.

I loved his closing thought. Take that point (the nightmare is you!) and craft a short message focusing on that and cult mentality.

As I write this I think that should be the focus going forward. Call them out, label them as cult 45, cult members, brainwashed and manipulated, misguided. Highlight some dangerous cults we've seen before, draw comparisons, offer deprogramming!

kurtcagle

(1,603 posts)
52. Hearing the truth hurts
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:42 PM
Jan 2021

I suspect that most of those who need to hear this won't get more than a few seconds into it before stopping. When you have been brainwashed into thinking that you are good and special, hearing that you're not is too much cognitive dissonance.

Response to albacore (Reply #24)

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
66. This was not for consumption by the brainwashed deplorables nor for our "choir"
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 05:52 PM
Jan 2021

it was for the "intellectual/business/neocon/fiscal conservative" Raygun wing of the GOP who sat back and tacitly allowed their party to be overtaken by the loons for expediency. Their sidelines quiescence made them complicit to the events at the Capitol.

The brainwashed will always be "followers" with short attention spans, and they found their "leader". The rest of them have yet to find a "leader" to rally around to take their party back and that will be a problem for them moving forward, as they are now forever branded as cowards stunned into silence, while their party was set adrift by mindless CT amplified by echo-chamber pseudo-media personalities.

But in order to break free of the rot they fed, as a first step, they need to refocus by ceasing the waste of time of joining in the spouting of cherry-picked buzz words and whataboutisms formulated by their radicalized "base" as a way to "me too" use against Democrats for "street cred", while privately bemoaning the increasing extremism that has all but consumed their party.

And more importantly, they need to stop ignoring facts and reality and find ways to put their demon genie back in the bottle, and that includes ditching illegitimate and nefarious chaos instigators like Bannon and Gingrich. Otherwise they eliminate any chance to reclaim the policy positions, sans the divisive "wedge issues", that they used to hold near and dear, the promotion of which might have allowed them to actually appear to be something that resembles more a "political party" than a foaming-at-the-mouth cult cabal.

Instead they chose a path of being "anti-Obama", rejecting anything and everything he tried to do including offers to implement reformulated versions of the very policies that they used to tout. And their rejections, "Because. Obama.", essentially sealed their fate by eventually hollowing out their party until it was left with nothing but a core of racist, sexist, homophobic, and anti-science RW COS-players, participating in a game of "capture the flag" at a government facility near you.

If you don't stand for something then you'll fall for anything.

littlemissmartypants

(22,692 posts)
69. Sloganeering is the gateway to propaganda. He stole that
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jan 2021

effective tool straight from the authoritarian handbook.

❤ lmsp

...dog-whistle-bumper-sticker-phrases...

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
28. This needs to be WIDELY distributed....
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 10:59 AM
Jan 2021

don't know much about the author/narrator but he's right on! He says what needs to be said in a single, coherent fashion...


Hotler

(11,425 posts)
32. Well written but, too many big words and too long for shit apple repugs to comprehend.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:15 AM
Jan 2021

When you're home schooled, your teacher has to have more than a 6th grade education.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
33. We are confronted with a toxic suicidal death cult
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:19 AM
Jan 2021

that is willing to die for a cheesy, second hand, reality TV performance artist.

Susan Calvin

(1,646 posts)
40. That's it exactly.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jan 2021

Isn't Andy Griffith one fine actor? If you haven't seen him as a bad guy you haven't lived.

justgamma

(3,666 posts)
34. You're confused because you didn't see us flock to his rallies and cheer his smackdowns
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:21 AM
Jan 2021

Loved this but he missed a huge point. We didn't have huge rallies because our side cares about people. We were trying to keep people from dying. The other side just don't give a darn.

robbob

(3,531 posts)
38. He did mention (in passing) as one of the reasons for the low key Biden campaign
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:57 AM
Jan 2021

that we were in the middle of a global pandemic.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
60. The big danger in the future will be
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:47 PM
Jan 2021

The people who never wore a mask, never took any precautions and never worried about the virus, yet never got sick and never cared about those who did. They will either think they are a super race or the whole pandemic was indeed a hoax. There will be millions of them, and they will be entitled assholes for the rest of their lives.

Fla Dem

(23,690 posts)
35. Wonderful oration of the past 4 years and the Republican downfall. Unfortunately
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:24 AM
Jan 2021

the people that need to hear this won't.

harumph

(1,901 posts)
41. To long for Trumpers.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jan 2021

Seriously, break it into 4 parts and drive home the points. These folks have a 10 second attention span (at most).

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
43. It's devastating to hear truth spoken soberly and clearly, particularly the massive damage done...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:12 PM
Jan 2021

...in 4 years.

peggysue2

(10,832 posts)
49. Hear, Hear!
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:34 PM
Jan 2021

Effective, clear, no pussy-footing around.

This is indeed a wake up call.

to Matthew Cooke. Well said, well presented.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
50. RW on a bipartisan forum I used to participate in - they were always trying
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:40 PM
Jan 2021

to push the "democrats in disarray" narrative whenever two democrats - gasp, horrors! - disagreed about something. I would just laugh and point out that that's what normal, non-cultish behavior looks like.

I think RW culture in general tends to be lock-step and cultish and either-or in their thinking, while LW is more open and inclusive - everyone gets to have a say about everything, and anything - and display more nuanced shades of gray thinking.

We are hardwired this way to some extent - theres actual sociological studies that say this. It doesnt excuse cultish criminal behavior though. And there certainly are exceptions to the rule - plenty of rigid inflexible thinking on this very forum!

beaglelover

(3,486 posts)
53. This was most excellent. Some billionaires should buy airtime on every network and cable station
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:36 PM
Jan 2021

and broadcast this several times a day in its entirety for a month or two.

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
57. "That embodies all seven of the deadly sins, most of all pride." Got to love that comment....
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jan 2021

....about the Trump years. Pride has always been my favorite of the seven deadly sins, because so many people see it as a good thing. Team pride, military pride, school pride, pride in one's accomplishments. These are all sold to us as good things, part of an overall picture of American pride. Sing it with me. "Proud to be an American".

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
59. Now if he could just say all that in Trumpspeak.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jan 2021

Throw in a lot of adjectives like beautiful, bigly and fake, mispronounce the big words, and ridicule them and demand jail time for his enemies and speak in sound bites he might reach them.

Response to Swede (Original post)

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
64. Is he just preaching to the choir?
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:44 PM
Jan 2021

His message needs to be heard by those unwilling and unable to understand unless you slap them in the face with it! The truth, you know. Something they never hear.
We must stop the lies. 🛑

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
68. That was absolutely brilliant!
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 08:55 PM
Jan 2021

From the concept, to the compelling writing, to the recitation....right down to the demeanour, voice and look. Whoever Matthew Cooke is, he has a future in this kind of work, if he wants it...and isn't doing it already.

 

AmyStrange

(7,989 posts)
70. Republicans ignore the truth, and the facts, because...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 09:18 PM
Jan 2021

-

it gets in the way of their lies.
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Larissa

(790 posts)
75. Wow, just wow
Mon Jan 18, 2021, 01:48 AM
Jan 2021

So very badly needed: an articulate, balanced, sane breakdown of the travesty in this country. A balm in Gilead. I will be listening to this again and again.

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