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Donkees

(31,413 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:12 AM Jan 2021

Raskin: I'm not going to lose my son at the end of 2020 and lose my country and my republic in 2021

Last edited Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:58 PM - Edit history (1)

From CNN's Sam Fossum

Lead impeachment manager Rep. Jamie Raskin said Sunday morning the article of impeachment will be sent to the Senate "soon," as he also passionately argued that President Trump's second impeachment was crucial for holding the President to account for his actions — even as the Maryland Democrat deals with his own family's tragedy over the loss of their son to the illness of depression.

"I'm not going to lose my son at the end of 2020 and lose my country and my republic in 2021. It's not going to happen," Raskin told CNN on Sunday.

Raskin also addressed questions over the decision to pursue convicting a president of impeachment who is just days away from leaving office, arguing that Trump must be held accountable for his actions.

"I don't think anybody would seriously argue that we should establish a precedent, where every president on the way out the door has two weeks or three weeks or four weeks to try to incite an armed insurrection against the union or organize a coup against the union, and if it succeeds, he becomes a dictator and if it fails, he's not subject to impeachment or conviction because we just want to let bygones be bygones," said Raskin, a constitutional law professor.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/biden-inauguration-dc-capitol-news-01-17-21/index.html



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Raskin: I'm not going to lose my son at the end of 2020 and lose my country and my republic in 2021 (Original Post) Donkees Jan 2021 OP
Ruskin stunningly articulate, brilliant, patriotic and tough. We are fortunate he is a public Ninga Jan 2021 #1
K&R Docreed2003 Jan 2021 #2
K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R K&R K& R K&R TigressDem Jan 2021 #3
Well said, Rep. Raskin! secondwind Jan 2021 #4
I have always had the utmost respect for Jamie Raskin. BComplex Jan 2021 #5
I think the Raskin situation is weird. Renew Deal Jan 2021 #6
He's in survival mode. For himself and his country. MontanaMama Jan 2021 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author nam78_two Jan 2021 #8
''Please look after each other, the animals, and the global poor for me. All my love, Tommy.'' Donkees Jan 2021 #9
THIS. I understand that perfectly. Thank you for posting what was already on my mind, but could KPN Jan 2021 #13
How sad and terrible. We had suicide in our family too. It's a gut wrenching experience for all SWBTATTReg Jan 2021 #18
"Please look after each other, the animals, and the global poor for me.... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2021 #22
Each person handles grief in a different way. Some bury the pain in work. I do not presume to niyad Jan 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jan 2021 #11
Mandated grieving? Social shunning of people who don't make a fuss? Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2021 #12
+1000 rainin Jan 2021 #19
He's BEEN grieving, all along. elleng Jan 2021 #21
Jamie Raskin may just have the makings of a national hero. A leasder we can almost all admire. KPN Jan 2021 #14
K&R gademocrat7 Jan 2021 #15
I mentioned Mr. Raskin's resolve to my friend last week Marthe48 Jan 2021 #16
I was amazed at his composure nt LittleGirl Jan 2021 #17
He was just on CNN for about 20 minutes, half of it about the trial, and half about his son.... George II Jan 2021 #20
Tommy Raskin's prize-winning essay nuxvomica Jan 2021 #23

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
1. Ruskin stunningly articulate, brilliant, patriotic and tough. We are fortunate he is a public
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 11:22 AM
Jan 2021

servant.

Renew Deal

(81,861 posts)
6. I think the Raskin situation is weird.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jan 2021

He’s taken no time to grieve. I don’t know how he can possibly lead an impeachment trial. It signals a certain amount of coldness to me.

MontanaMama

(23,322 posts)
7. He's in survival mode. For himself and his country.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:35 PM
Jan 2021

People grieve in different ways and it is quite personal. He sounds angry in his statement and he has every right to be.

Response to Renew Deal (Reply #6)

Donkees

(31,413 posts)
9. ''Please look after each other, the animals, and the global poor for me. All my love, Tommy.''
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:38 PM
Jan 2021
Please look after each other, the animals, and the global poor for me. All my love, Tommy.”

When asked about why he was so open about Tommy’s experience with depression, and why he shared his suicide note, Raskin said: “Why would we suppress that? I want to live by that note. That is my road map for the rest of my life.”

He said, through his son, he found the fortitude to move on and keep working through the grief and strife. Last Wednesday, as he went back to the house floor, “I really felt that my son was with me — and you know, that may sound too mystical and spiritual or religious for some of my rationalist friends, but I felt very much the spirit of my son with me.”

https://www.kveller.com/jewish-congressman-raskin-movingly-grapples-with-sons-death-during-capitol-attack/

KPN

(15,646 posts)
13. THIS. I understand that perfectly. Thank you for posting what was already on my mind, but could
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:00 PM
Jan 2021

never have been expressed by me so perfectly.

SWBTATTReg

(22,131 posts)
18. How sad and terrible. We had suicide in our family too. It's a gut wrenching experience for all
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jan 2021

involved, and often catches all by surprise.

I do beseech others who are thinking of taking this awful, last step (taking their live). Don't! Please talk to someone first, talk to multiple people first. Things are not that bad, as you may think. Let others know. There are hotlines to call.

You are loved but don't see it or realize it, and if you're young, please give life a chance first. We all love you.

niyad

(113,332 posts)
10. Each person handles grief in a different way. Some bury the pain in work. I do not presume to
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:45 PM
Jan 2021

tell others how to grieve. And people in positions of power or authority may not have the luxury of dealing with their grief in the moment.

Response to Renew Deal (Reply #6)

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,002 posts)
12. Mandated grieving? Social shunning of people who don't make a fuss?
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 12:57 PM
Jan 2021

There is nothing unhealthy about spending less than the average amount of time to grieve.

I hope you are not wanting us to go the way of mandated grieving and social shunning of people who don't make a show and performance out of grieving even if they feel they have made their peace with it and don't need any more grieving except for people looking on and making judgments about their mental fitness based on externalities of appearance.

Further, you do not have an accounting of how he spends his time. If you do, you should share it to justify your point.

You know how he spent his time over Christmas and all that?

You know how he spends his time in the evenings and at night and first thing in the morning?

You've never heard of people using work as a positive expression of how they feel their lost relative would like them to move forward? Even as a kind of grief therapy.

You don't get it when he explicitly links the two?

You don't get that working to save his country might help him heal his loss?

elleng

(130,964 posts)
21. He's BEEN grieving, all along.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:40 PM
Jan 2021

Nothing remotely cold about him (my Congressman,) he's been fulfilling all of his responsibilities.

'That is my road map for the rest of my life.”'

Marthe48

(16,970 posts)
16. I mentioned Mr. Raskin's resolve to my friend last week
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:18 PM
Jan 2021

I think he will deal with his personal loss by doing all he can to prevent losing our country. He is a strong man and I'm glad he is representing people like me.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. He was just on CNN for about 20 minutes, half of it about the trial, and half about his son....
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:28 PM
Jan 2021

I feel so bad for Raskin, but he's moving on with his job AND with helping the major problem of depression.

A wonderful man.

nuxvomica

(12,429 posts)
23. Tommy Raskin's prize-winning essay
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:12 PM
Jan 2021

He wrote this at 18. It's a piece of brilliant and compelling writing that comforts me to know there are young people out there who think this way. Despite the tragic circumstances of his passing, I see this young man's legacy as one of hope.

https://thehumanist.com/magazine/may-june-2013/features/cheating-students-how-our-schools-fail-the-humanistic-vision-of-education

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