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Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:38 PM Jan 2021

If Trump is in the air the moment Biden becomes President . . .

. . . his plane will immediately change its call sign from Air Force One to either SAM 28000 or SAM 29000, depending on which VC-25A he's on.

He won't get to take Air Force One all the way home.

What a wonderful thought.

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If Trump is in the air the moment Biden becomes President . . . (Original Post) Chichiri Jan 2021 OP
Could the crew all parachute out? FSogol Jan 2021 #1
I was thinking his Secret Service detail should jump out. chriscan64 Jan 2021 #4
Sadly, since he has not been convicted of an impeachable offense soldierant Jan 2021 #65
Maybe throw something else out? fleur-de-lisa Jan 2021 #33
"God as my witness, I thought that turkey Jakes Progress Jan 2021 #60
One of the all time TV classics! ShazzieB Jan 2021 #64
Can it turn into a pumpkin? soothsayer Jan 2021 #2
His henchmen are already turning into rats William Seger Jan 2021 #44
I'm glad he didn't get to put is new color scheme on those sboatcar Jan 2021 #3
Amen. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #16
That is strangely comforting. Thanks. n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #5
At noon the aircraft will be under the command of President Biden. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2021 #6
Send him on to Guantanamo. BluesRunTheGame Jan 2021 #19
Call them back to Andrews. Girard442 Jan 2021 #7
Divert it to New York Generic Brad Jan 2021 #25
Could we play the "Mission Impossible" theme just as Donnie realizes he's deplaning at JFK? Girard442 Jan 2021 #28
Yep, seems like Biden could order that. gulliver Jan 2021 #58
Maybe the crew could just push him out. After all, his base keeps telling us that Pinochet did lutherj Jan 2021 #8
THIS. roamer65 Jan 2021 #12
Same thing happened with Richard Nixon. Eugene Jan 2021 #9
Order it sent to Elmendorf AFB Alaska and make Trump call a cab dalton99a Jan 2021 #10
Diego Garcia DeminPennswoods Jan 2021 #70
And be arrested and taken into custody when he disembarks???? lisa58 Jan 2021 #11
If it's wheels up at 9:00, he could barely make it. DFW Jan 2021 #13
That is my thinking he has to board by 9am in order to land by 12 FloridaBlues Jan 2021 #21
I heard he leaves at 07:30. slater71 Jan 2021 #26
Well since he can't tweet ... KentuckyWoman Jan 2021 #56
Hopefully, some patriotic air traffic controllers will see that it doesn't happen. GoCubsGo Jan 2021 #29
Wouldn't Clear Air & Priority Reduce The Time? ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #27
I think just under three hours to South Florida from DC DFW Jan 2021 #31
Be A Shame If... ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #32
Yes, that would really be a shame.... DFW Jan 2021 #35
You have more confidence in their competence than I do. yardwork Jan 2021 #46
If they are airborne DFW Jan 2021 #50
For some reason makes me think of the plane crash that took golfer Payne Stewart. Hoyt Jan 2021 #14
apparently he was irate he couldn't use it after biden takes office without permission...... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #15
Like Barack Obama could use it any time he wanted? yardwork Jan 2021 #48
He should never see the inside of that plane again. calimary Jan 2021 #66
Land the plane at the nearest airport and tell him to get out. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #17
Best yet!!!! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #24
Not first class rates Leith Jan 2021 #34
His million-dollar-a-year travel allowance wouldn't take him far at those rates! n/t Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #38
Good Leith Jan 2021 #40
Good point!!! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #45
Fuck. EarthFirst Jan 2021 #18
They should shut down the TV reception. No TV, no twitter, he just might jump out. dem4decades Jan 2021 #20
Call sign becomes Florida Man 1. Sneederbunk Jan 2021 #22
Or Individual 1. meadowlander Jan 2021 #55
He should be arrested and taken into custody at 12:01 PM. He is a national security risk. Buckeyeblue Jan 2021 #23
Install a meter central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #30
If at noon, let's imagine, an indictment were to be unsealed and an arrest warrant issued NotASurfer Jan 2021 #36
You wouldn't be the only one smiling! Grammy23 Jan 2021 #39
he'll be in florida by then. Takket Jan 2021 #37
He should just head to Moscow and never come back IronLionZion Jan 2021 #41
I was hoping it would change to Con Air. n/t whopis01 Jan 2021 #42
Oh...I thought they would just kick him off ashredux Jan 2021 #43
OK, how about this...... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #47
Didn't Nixon get a free ride on AF1 after he resigned? FakeNoose Jan 2021 #49
Serious question matt819 Jan 2021 #51
I imagine it could, if Biden were to order it. Chichiri Jan 2021 #57
The Capitol rioters were put birdographer Jan 2021 #52
I suspect there will be US Marshals on the plane jmowreader Jan 2021 #53
I would hope that the AF1 crew won't let that happen. berni_mccoy Jan 2021 #54
Now is not the time for the Democratic Party to be nice. Now is the time to be the Republicans worst LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #59
I want them to land at the nearest available airstrip CanonRay Jan 2021 #61
I hear Thule is nice this time of year. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #62
Barring tossing the fucker out, midair,... RobertDevereaux Jan 2021 #63
Unless something has changed since 14th tccturtle Jan 2021 #67
I have this vision of in mid air everybody including the pilots Doreen Jan 2021 #68
The norm is SAM tail number, BUT.... bottomofthehill Jan 2021 #69
Give him.a parachute & shove his fat ass out the door SheltieLover Jan 2021 #71
Better count the silverware and bars of Airforce 1 soaps Gisilbertus Jan 2021 #72

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
4. I was thinking his Secret Service detail should jump out.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:42 PM
Jan 2021

For the look on his face if nothing else. Anyone serving him food or drink is free to follow them out.

soldierant

(6,888 posts)
65. Sadly, since he has not been convicted of an impeachable offense
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:25 PM
Jan 2021

and has not been voted ineligible to hold any other public office ever, he will still be entitled to Secret Service protection at that magic moment..

I hope we can change that for the future, but it won't be changed by 12:01 pm Wednesday.

sboatcar

(415 posts)
3. I'm glad he didn't get to put is new color scheme on those
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:41 PM
Jan 2021

it was ugly and would have made me angry every time I saw it.

6. At noon the aircraft will be under the command of President Biden.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:43 PM
Jan 2021

He can order it to return to Andrews without landing in Florida. Or better still, he can have it land in New York, where the D.A. will be waiting to have Fat Donnie arrested.

gulliver

(13,186 posts)
58. Yep, seems like Biden could order that.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:57 PM
Jan 2021

Trump would know that too, I guess, and would plan to be on the ground before Biden's Presidency starts. Otherwise, Biden could graciously announce to the country that the plane is no longer Air Force One but that he has ordered it to finish giving civilian Trump a ride home.

lutherj

(2,496 posts)
8. Maybe the crew could just push him out. After all, his base keeps telling us that Pinochet did
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:45 PM
Jan 2021

nothing wrong.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
29. Hopefully, some patriotic air traffic controllers will see that it doesn't happen.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:23 PM
Jan 2021

Or, whichever general is in charge of this shitshow's logistics.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
27. Wouldn't Clear Air & Priority Reduce The Time?
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:20 PM
Jan 2021

Asking because you would know.
I'm guessing AF1 would have it's path cleared, and there'd be no waiting a line to land.
How much would that cut off typical flight time.
I know it's 3 hours Chicago to Miami because we've done that flight several times
So also, is it actually 3 hours DC to south Florida? If so, I'd never have guessed that!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
31. I think just under three hours to South Florida from DC
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:28 PM
Jan 2021

Of course, he needs to helicopter out to Andrews AFB, change planes, get settled in, taxi out, etc., so he needs for the helicopter to leave the White House lawn at around 8:00 if he wants to be wheels up by 9:00 out of Andrews.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
32. Be A Shame If...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jan 2021

...there was a hydraulic pump problem that was going to take 4.5 hours to fix! That the pilot discovered 10 minutes before take off!

DFW

(54,405 posts)
50. If they are airborne
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jan 2021

One would hope they wouldn‘t need to stop along the way and ask for directions.

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
15. apparently he was irate he couldn't use it after biden takes office without permission......
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 01:53 PM
Jan 2021

I guess he thought he could use it on a whim or something.

Wait till he's convicted and all of his remaining perc's disappear........

Rather than former president, he could be referred to as convicted seditionist.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
48. Like Barack Obama could use it any time he wanted?
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:28 PM
Jan 2021

Seriously? Trump thought he could use Air Force One for the rest of life? Did he see any other former presidents using it?

calimary

(81,313 posts)
66. He should never see the inside of that plane again.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:28 PM
Jan 2021

Not even the outside of it.

Must say I do like the idea of giving him a parachute, showing him how to use it, and then shoving him out.

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
24. Best yet!!!!
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jan 2021

Forget the airport - I'm thinking I-95 somewhere over South Carolina.

Or, finish the flight but prorate it from noon on - all 1st. class rates!

Leith

(7,809 posts)
34. Not first class rates
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:48 PM
Jan 2021

Operating expenses rates. Doesn't it cost something like $200,000 an hour to run it?

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
45. Good point!!!
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:24 PM
Jan 2021

And what did they end up charging that once-Cabinet-member who was flying him and his family all over the place........ GAWD, this whole four years has been such a FUSTERCLUCK of corruption!!!!!!!!!

BUT, HE WILL BE GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
23. He should be arrested and taken into custody at 12:01 PM. He is a national security risk.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:17 PM
Jan 2021

I wonder if part of all of security in DC is to not only protect the new President and Vice-President, but to prepare to the potential reaction of arresting Trump.

central scrutinizer

(11,651 posts)
30. Install a meter
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:27 PM
Jan 2021

Once Biden is sworn in, bill him for the remainder of the trip. Alternatively, land at the nearest airport and usher him out.

NotASurfer

(2,151 posts)
36. If at noon, let's imagine, an indictment were to be unsealed and an arrest warrant issued
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 02:55 PM
Jan 2021

Imagine the flight being diverted to a secure location where representatives of law enforcement were waiting to take him into custody

I probably do not live in the universe where that outcome unfolds, sadly, but it is a thought that makes me smile.

IronLionZion

(45,452 posts)
41. He should just head to Moscow and never come back
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:16 PM
Jan 2021

or find some other country that won't extradite him back here to face trial for his many crimes against humanity

It would be funny if Putin put him in Siberia for the rest of his life

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
47. OK, how about this......
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:27 PM
Jan 2021

12:00 Joe gets sworn in. 12:02 Kamala or Dr. Jill hands him a cell phone and PRESIDENT JOE calls the pilot:

"Hi! This is your PRESIDENT. Bring him back - the FBI will be waiting to give him a "special" ride."

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
49. Didn't Nixon get a free ride on AF1 after he resigned?
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:31 PM
Jan 2021

I thought he did, but maybe it was just the helicopter.


matt819

(10,749 posts)
51. Serious question
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:38 PM
Jan 2021

If he's in the air when Biden is inaugurated, does the plane turn around or land at the nearest available airport?

Chichiri

(4,667 posts)
57. I imagine it could, if Biden were to order it.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:53 PM
Jan 2021

Which Trump probably doesn't want to risk, so I'm guessing he'll make sure to be off the plane before noon. But otherwise the plane will carry out its scheduled flight plan with a non-Presidential call sign.

The same thing happened to Nixon; he was in Air Force One over Missouri when Ford was sworn in, and the pilot immediately called control and changed the call sign to SAM 27000. He still got to go the rest of the way to California. Just not in Air Force One.

birdographer

(1,331 posts)
52. The Capitol rioters were put
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:49 PM
Jan 2021

on a no-fly list. Wouldn't you think the man who instigated the siege would deserve at least that? And then, pilot's discretion at who sits in his plane. He has the authority to land anywhere and get the terrorist off his plane. Might have to wait till the terrorist is a civilian and not the president, of course (what planet are we on????).

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
53. I suspect there will be US Marshals on the plane
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:51 PM
Jan 2021

As soon as the Chief Justice speaks the words “Congratulations, Mr. President,” they will apprehend him. The Secret Service officers on the flight will assist - he’s been crapping on the Secret Service so long, it will be their pleasure.

I don’t see them diverting, but it’s possible...after all, Palm Beach County does have a jail they can take him to until the Air Force can come up with a C-130 to fly him to New York.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
54. I would hope that the AF1 crew won't let that happen.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 03:52 PM
Jan 2021

And that they wouldn’t approve any flight paths that would cause that to happen.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
59. Now is not the time for the Democratic Party to be nice. Now is the time to be the Republicans worst
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:01 PM
Jan 2021

nightmare.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
62. I hear Thule is nice this time of year.
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:16 PM
Jan 2021

He wanted to buy Greenland, right? He can scout places for more golf resorts.

(Apologies to Denmark, yes I know you're not selling it. Yet.)

RobertDevereaux

(1,857 posts)
63. Barring tossing the fucker out, midair,...
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:23 PM
Jan 2021

...the pilot could insist that all passengers wear a mask, stay seated with seat belts fastened, and speak not at all.

tccturtle

(42 posts)
67. Unless something has changed since 14th
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:28 PM
Jan 2021

He has ordered a ummm very bigly pomp & circumstance send off by party members and White House staff including what few Cabinet members are left. He will then depart the White House and DC aboard Marine One (helicopter), which will fly over the inauguration site.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
68. I have this vision of in mid air everybody including the pilots
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:31 PM
Jan 2021

Parachuting out of the plane leaving donny with no parachute. The panick on his face I envision is hilarious.

Okay, destroying a good plane on him wouldn't be good.

bottomofthehill

(8,334 posts)
69. The norm is SAM tail number, BUT....
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:32 PM
Jan 2021

Although they don’t have to
I would like to see something like Special Air Mission Failed Presidency

SAM Failure
SAM criminal transport
SAM Russian Asset

Gisilbertus

(4 posts)
72. Better count the silverware and bars of Airforce 1 soaps
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jan 2021

As long as he is out of Washington DC for the inauguration. He will be tried, and tried again. He will go broke, whine and bitch.

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