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Lauren Camera
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A very personal thread about this story and why I increasingly believe addressing the rot caused by QAnon will be one of the Biden administrations most important and most difficult tasks.
Valerie Gilbert posts dozens of times a day on Facebook to promote QAnon from her Manhattan apartment.
A QAnon Digital Soldier Marches On, Undeterred by Theorys Unraveling
Valerie Gilbert posts dozens of times a day in support of an unhinged conspiracy theory. The story of this meme queen hints at how hard it will be to bring people like her back to reality.
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12:22 PM · Jan 17, 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/technology/qanon-meme-queen.html
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A very personal thread about this story and why I increasingly believe addressing the rot caused by QAnon will be one of the Biden administrations most important and most difficult tasks.
There are thousands of meme queens across the country. Let me introduce you to another one my former best friend.
We grew up together, were inseparable throughout high school, drove to school together every morning, went on vacations with each others families. Sometimes i went to church with her family and sometimes she came to church with mine. We were in each others weddings.
She graduated from a good college and went into finance. She didnt like it much. She moved to California with her husband, went to nursing school and became a delivery nurse. She loved it.
She had a baby, and then had two more. But she had a difficult time finding reliable childcare, and not being near any family, she found it increasingly impossible to juggle work and children.
She left her job and began selling womens clothing through LulaRoe one of those pyramid scheme-like companies thats very good at duping SAHMs into opening their own online boutique.
As often happens with childhood friends, we drifted apart. This happened increasingly quickly after she moved to California. But as is also the case with childhood best friends, we stayed in touch via text, especially for birthdays and at holidays.
She has never been active politically, but the 2016 election stirred something in her. She proudly posted that she was part of the Never Clinton cabal. But she never posted about being pro-Trump. In fact, I dont think she liked him much at the time, or even voted for him.
It happened very slowly at first. The Facebook and Instagram posts were only semi-offensive and far and few between. I had the privilege of being able to shrug it off. Besides, I had a lot going on too a new baby and demanding job, thousands of miles away.
But then came the pizzagate posts, the posts about the Clintons, Obamas, Gates and others running a pedophile ring, eating babies. Lots of pro-life posts and warnings about child trafficking.
Whatever was happening to her intensified dramatically in March and April of 2019, around the time that the coronavirus shuttered schools and businesses across the U.S.
The posts became angry, racist and more and more bizarre. Photos proving Michelle Obama is a man, explainers about Bill Gates trying to change our DNA through vaccinations, full on COVID-19 denial.
Suddenly she was professing to be a patriot fighting for our country, began worshiping President Trump and reposting memes disparaging Joe Biden, his family and other Democrats. What threw me off the most was just how angry and mean she was being.
Ive always tried to maintain a firewall between my career as a reporter and the politics of family and friends. Thats something Im actively reassessing after whats transpired these last 10 months.
I flagged almost everything she posted to Instagram as false through the sites reporting system, but never confronted her personally. Her account was temporarily frozen a handful of times, so I know others were reporting her too.
She always came back, meaner, angrier and more sure that she was on the right side of history.
Things came to a head for me personally on Friday, when she posted memes supporting the rioters and the insurrection, posted images of a militarized Washington, DC, and made references to future, imminent attacks.
I messaged her that what she was posting was disgusting and dangerous, that this city is my familys home and that the person I knew her to be was better than this.
I wasnt expecting an apology or a change in heart. I didnt have any grand illusions of rekindling a friendship and driving off into the sunset for a girls weekend.
But I certainly wasnt expecting the wrath of hate the spewed my way within three seconds of messaging her.
Just you wait, she fired back. I know exactly whats happening. Sad you dont.
And dont for one second say you know [me], she wrote. I tried to keep you but there was just nothing left between us. Im sorry you have no idea whats happening but your precious Biden will be behind bars.
Did you know the inauguration is canceled? Did you know the insurrection act was signed 1/9? Do you know how many assassination attempts have been made on OUR president in the last 4 years? Do you know that the riots were planned by BLM AND ANTIFA?
Did you know that the election was stolen by the Vatican and 5 other huge key players?
You think your [SIC] a journalist but you are just as brainwashed as the people watching MSM.
STAY HOME. DONT GO TO WORK. KEEP YOUR KIDS HOME. YOUR CITY IS GOING TO BE A WARZONE.
Theres more, but you get the idea. I didnt argue. I knew immediately how far gone she was. I wrote, I love you, and then she blocked me on all social media.
If youre reading this and you think you dont have friends and family this is happening to, I promise youre wrong. Check in with the people you love, make sure theyre doing ok.
I also want to thank reporters like @BrandyZadrozny @oneunderscore__ and others, whose meticulous reporting on the dark corners of the Internet is something everyone should have been giving much more attention.
I dont know how the Biden administration solves this. I really dont. I dont know if they can. Is it even their problem to solve? But hope is a thing with feathers that perches in the soul, and I will always hope to get my friend back.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)An educated woman, too!
Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)A J.D. and another undergrad in biology and got caught up in all the conspiracy theories years ago. It started while she was listening to Alex Jones. She does have a history of some underlying mental health problems and was vulnerable, I'm sure. Still, she went from a logical progressive to a raving RWNJ. We even tried an intervention without success. I had to let her go, so to speak. I really miss her but she was not the same person. In a way, it feels like the person I once knew passed away.
ProfessorGAC
(65,076 posts)...before you actually lost her.
You were friends with someone who no longer existed.
Not as dramatic, but my wife & I had a similar experience.
Laffy Kat
(16,383 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,692 posts)Arne
(2,027 posts)Electroshock.
It is literally meant to shock you out of a delusion.
CaptainTruth
(6,594 posts)It doesn't matter if you're selling cars, razors, or crazy conspiracy theories, the fundamental principles of marketing apply.
If we don't realize that & address it, it will only get worse.
doubleplusgood
(944 posts)hauckeye
(635 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)underpants
(182,829 posts)The text below is the best summary Ive seen of this. Its the same as any other cult. Put out the love love love net and wayward fish Ill find it. Cut off their previous world. Everything before has been a lie, only WE (usually one leader) has the actual truth. The fish helps put out the love net for others to find.
What attracts Ms. Gilbert and many other people to QAnon isnt just the content of the conspiracy theory itself. Its the community and sense of mission it provides. New QAnon believers are invited to chat rooms and group texts, and their posts are showered with likes and retweets. They make friends, and are told that they are not lonely Facebook addicts squinting at zoomed-in paparazzi photos, but patriots gathering intel for a righteous revolution.
This social element also means that QAnon followers arent likely to be persuaded out of their beliefs with logic and reason alone.
These people arent drooling, mind-controlled cultists, Mr. Rothschild said. People who are in Q like it. They like being part of it. You cant debunk and fact-check your way out of this, because these people dont want to leave.
underpants
(182,829 posts)Marking so I dont lose this. Looks very interesting
mzmolly
(50,996 posts)with election interference, at the very least.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Klaralven
(7,510 posts)Ms. Gilberts path to QAnon began in 2016 when WikiLeaks posted a trove of hacked emails from the Clinton campaign. Shortly after, she started seeing posts on social media about something called #Pizzagate. She had dabbled in conspiracy theories before, but Pizzagate which falsely posited that powerful Democrats were running a child sex-trafficking ring out of a Washington pizza parlor, and that all of this was detailed in code in the Clinton emails blew her mind. If it was true, she thought, it would connect all of her suspicions about elites, and explain the horrible truths they had been covering up.
The world opened up in Technicolor for me, she said. It was like the Matrix everything just started to download.
Pizzagate primed Ms. Gilbert for QAnon, which she discovered through the YouTube videos of a British psychic. It quickly took over her life, and yanked her politics sharply to the right. Seemingly overnight, her Facebook feed switched from Change.org petitions and cute animal photos to Gateway Pundit links and Killary Clinton memes.
Like many QAnon die-hards, Ms. Gilbert has a purely virtual attachment to the movement. She said she had never attended a QAnon rally, or even met another QAnon believer in person. She works from home as a freelance audiobook narrator, rarely leaves her apartment and scoffed when I asked if she would ever take up arms for Q.
I am a digital soldier, she said. I work through the computer.
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)There's never an aha moment for them. The conspiracy theory is ever evolving and never has to be right about anything. Dates come and go and nothing happens and the conspiracy doesn't lose one follower. It's all part of the plan, someone misread the code, or it actually happened and you just have to look for the signs.