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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:41 AM Jan 2021

Rep. John Katko-R: US Capitol attack was 'much worse than people realized'

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2021/01/rep-john-katko-us-capitol-attack-was-much-worse-than-people-realized.html

Washington – Rep. John Katko says he has received intelligence briefings that suggest the Jan. 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol was more than a spontaneous attack by an angry mob.

Katko, the top Republican on the House Homeland Security Committee, said the briefings raised serious questions about how much planning went into the attack and the security lapses that allowed rioters to reach the House and Senate chambers.

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“There are a lot of unanswered questions here, from possible security lapses to who was involved and when they were involved,” Katko said. “We need to have a full stem to stern look back on this to see what happened, how it happened, the sequence of events, who contributed to it, and how we make sure it never happens again."

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Rep. John Katko-R: US Capitol attack was 'much worse than people realized' (Original Post) SheltieLover Jan 2021 OP
Katko was a yes on impeachment exboyfil Jan 2021 #1
For sure! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #4
+1 n/t area51 Jan 2021 #18
No we don't DownriverDem Jan 2021 #25
They had inside help. Cruz, Hawley, Booboo, Scaly Steve, Louie Gomer, etc. are culpable. lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #2
Go higher up on that food chain mercuryblues Jan 2021 #32
Why would he hide from his own army? lagomorph777 Jan 2021 #33
He stood on that stage like a mercuryblues Jan 2021 #34
This Mussolini wannabe was expecting the coup to work. BarbD Jan 2021 #38
Truth will out malaise Jan 2021 #3
Hopefully. I've always suspected that the gang of 8 and TPTB shield us and the world from wiggs Jan 2021 #5
Remember the briefing after the 2016 election... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #10
yes...one of the things I was thinking of. exactly. 'ashen-faced' nt wiggs Jan 2021 #13
and the Iraqi torture briefings that left members visibly shaken Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #28
I have thought that since Florida 2000 malaise Jan 2021 #14
The dropping of dimes should begin soon. OAITW r.2.0 Jan 2021 #12
Now that we know Michael Flynn's brother Charles was part of Capitol response. sarcasmo Jan 2021 #6
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #8
Branded Marcuse Jan 2021 #26
Dont forget the 3 congress men looking for a pardon ace3csusm Jan 2021 #31
I mean, wasn't the Benghazi main beef all about the delay in sending rescue forces from BusyBeingBest Jan 2021 #39
That was definitely more than just an "angry mob" of Trumpists... Wounded Bear Jan 2021 #7
Yes! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #11
There's no need for a Special Council, there's no conflict of interest with this administration. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #15
Some remind me tiptonic Jan 2021 #24
Someone remind me tiptonic Jan 2021 #27
He eventually replaced all the AUSAs as far as I know. SunSeeker Jan 2021 #35
Some may call it "treason". nt oasis Jan 2021 #9
Maybe that's why the turtle looked like a ghost and scared shitless yesterday. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2021 #16
Could be! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #17
For Katko to come out with this is *big* Dennis Donovan Jan 2021 #19
Katko's also stunned tRump commuted the sentence of drug kingpin who orchestrated the 1990 murder of ARPad95 Jan 2021 #22
This is bigger and more important than BENGHAZI. safeinOhio Jan 2021 #20
It pays to look in the rearview mirror while driving forward. Harker Jan 2021 #21
Then get your republican colleagues to acknowledge that publicly and apologize matt819 Jan 2021 #23
This could have been a successful coup and a bloodbath of Congress. "We" were fortunate. n/t Evolve Dammit Jan 2021 #29
I hope no one is overly surprised by this. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #30
We should not assume that some plans were not successful behind the visible MAGAt crowd. Hermit-The-Prog Jan 2021 #37
Hell, we've known this at DU since that night. It's good that it is being verified. Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #36

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
4. For sure!
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:00 AM
Jan 2021

We need 2 parties:

Moderate dems; &

Progressive Dems.

Repukes have always demonstrated a gross disdain for democratic ideals. Not sure why their "party" is not deemed as terrorist org., to be honest.

It is beyond me how any sane person could remain aligned with a "party" who wants to censure even private citizens for stating factual truths. Cindy McCain, for example.

I've not heard any right-wing outrage or anything from McCain or Cheney regarding these threats to besmirch their reputations, have you?

mercuryblues

(14,408 posts)
32. Go higher up on that food chain
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:25 PM
Jan 2021

Remember that trump did not go into the bunker during an armed insurrection. In addition to the Secret Service not forcing him to go. The WH is less than 2 miles from the Capitol, by foot.

mercuryblues

(14,408 posts)
34. He stood on that stage like a
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jan 2021

General leading the charge. Then slinked away to his TV room for hot hamberders and fries.

wiggs

(7,731 posts)
5. Hopefully. I've always suspected that the gang of 8 and TPTB shield us and the world from
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 AM
Jan 2021

details that undermine our high opinion of ourselves as an invulnerable 'beacon of democracy'. I think there are aspects of the 2016 election, Russia, corporate control of DC, even some terrorist attacks that TPTB think wouldn't be helpful if known.

Wounded Bear

(58,243 posts)
10. Remember the briefing after the 2016 election...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:15 AM
Jan 2021

where all the Senators and Reps came out all pale and distressed looking?

Some shit was revealed there that the public never got to see.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
6. Now that we know Michael Flynn's brother Charles was part of Capitol response.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:04 PM - Edit history (1)

The Insurrection Commission should haul both Flynn brothers in for questioning.





https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/michael-flynn-brother-capitol-hill-riot/index.html

ace3csusm

(969 posts)
31. Dont forget the 3 congress men looking for a pardon
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jan 2021

Arizona Republican Congressmen Andy Biggs and Paul Gosar have asked President Donald Trump to preemptively pardon them for their roles .

BusyBeingBest

(8,049 posts)
39. I mean, wasn't the Benghazi main beef all about the delay in sending rescue forces from
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:48 PM
Jan 2021

ITALY and other countries to Libya to stop a terror attack in progress? The Army sat on a request to send National Guard troops across fucking TOWN to put down a violent mob inside the Capitol. Need WAY more investigation into this.

Wounded Bear

(58,243 posts)
7. That was definitely more than just an "angry mob" of Trumpists...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:14 AM
Jan 2021

The FBI needs to dig into this and ferret it out. Intel agencies need to be deeply involved and Congressional hearings are a must.

A Special Council would be advisable too.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. Yes!
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:16 AM
Jan 2021

And not a partisan repuke who will clam up like Mr. Mueller. Gawd, what a disappointment that guy was!

SunSeeker

(51,124 posts)
15. There's no need for a Special Council, there's no conflict of interest with this administration.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:31 AM
Jan 2021

Regular line DOJ prosecutors are appropriate. But we definitely need to investigate the shit out of this, with tons of hearings so that the American people know what happened.

tiptonic

(765 posts)
24. Some remind me
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:44 AM
Jan 2021

Someone please refresh my memory, on how many federal prosecutors/ attorney generals, trump fired his first weeks in office. 40 comes to mind. I always wondered why it happened so soon.

tiptonic

(765 posts)
27. Someone remind me
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:48 AM
Jan 2021

Someone please refresh my memory, on how many federal prosecutors/ attorney generals, trump fired his first weeks in office. 40 comes to mind. I always wondered why it happened so soon.

SunSeeker

(51,124 posts)
35. He eventually replaced all the AUSAs as far as I know.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:35 PM
Jan 2021

Had to make it his personal law firm, being the corrupt scumbag that he is. Biden better fire all of Trump's AUSAs.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,476 posts)
16. Maybe that's why the turtle looked like a ghost and scared shitless yesterday.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:32 AM
Jan 2021

Intel may have told him just how close he was to being strung up or shot......

However, I am confident he's back to his normal asshole self today.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
19. For Katko to come out with this is *big*
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:18 AM
Jan 2021

Normally, he's a coward when it comes to Trump.

For *only* the 2nd time in several years (the first being his vote to impeach Trump last week), I'm proud of my NY-24 congressman. Good on ol' Katko.🐱

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
22. Katko's also stunned tRump commuted the sentence of drug kingpin who orchestrated the 1990 murder of
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:36 AM
Jan 2021

Syracuse police officer Wallie Howard, Jr. I wonder what the "Thin Blue Line" loving crowd (i.e., MAGATs) in Onondaga County think about that? Oh, wait! Officer Howard was black. Oops! Major conflict with their hatred of BLM movement.

https://www.syracuse.com/crime/2021/01/outraged-a-sock-in-gut-prosecutors-us-rep-katko-police-stunned-after-trump-frees-kingpin-in-syracuse-cop-killing.html

Syracuse, NY -- The federal prosecutor who sent a drug kingpin to prison for orchestrating the murder of a Syracuse police officer expressed outrage Wednesday at President Trump’s surprise decision to release him from a life sentence.

“I’m kind of outraged that President Trump has granted him a commutation,” said retired Assistant U.S. Attorney John Duncan, a Republican who handled the trial personally.

Duncan wasn’t the only local official who blasted the outgoing president’s decision to release the mastermind of the slaying of Police Officer Wallie Howard, one of Central New York’s most notorious murders.

U.S. Rep John Katko, Syracuse police Chief Kenton Buckner, former police union president Jeff Piedmonte and Onondaga County District Attorney William Fitzpatrick expressed similar dismay to Syracuse.com | The Post-Standard this morning.


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Katko (R-Camillus), a former federal prosecutor and colleague of Duncan at the time, said that Davidson was responsible for a heinous crime.

“Jaime Davidson was found guilty of orchestrating the brutal murder of Wallie Howard, a decorated Central New York police officer,” Katko said. “I completely disagree with the president’s decision to commute the sentence for this heinous crime. Davidson is a criminal who should have served out his life sentence.”

safeinOhio

(32,335 posts)
20. This is bigger and more important than BENGHAZI.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:31 AM
Jan 2021

We need to spend as much time and money investigating 1/6/21.

Just my opinion.

Harker

(13,728 posts)
21. It pays to look in the rearview mirror while driving forward.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:32 AM
Jan 2021

Something the guilty and complicit would rather not bother with.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
23. Then get your republican colleagues to acknowledge that publicly and apologize
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:42 AM
Jan 2021

Or, given your colleagues' support, think about changing to D.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,513 posts)
30. I hope no one is overly surprised by this.
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:19 PM
Jan 2021

A large number - probably a majority - consider themselves either military, or paramilitary. That kind of person plans, and there were aspects of the day that seemed pretty coordinated.

That being said, it's a damned good thing that these people don't do this "for real" (in the ACTUAL military), because they can't plan a bar fight.

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