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Enough"
Its the responsibility of the news media to tell the truth, to provide the facts, and if youre going to give opinion, make it clear that thats exactly what it is. The problem with the Trump people is they think thats all opinion. They think its opinion from the left and they cant find any place to go thats going to validate them and what they believe, he added. But isnt also true that people on the liberal side of the spectrum try to seek out news that validate their opinions? Kurtz asked.
Luntz shared a survey that found the vast majority of those who watched CNN and MSNBC voted for Joe Biden, while the vast majority of Fox News viewers voted for Donald Trump. He even got candid about how after conducting that focus group, hes on the precipice of just no longer doing this for a living. Howie, this is a disaster. I know that youre in the business of analyzing the news. Im in the business of analyzing public opinion and I have to tell you, Im not only frightened, Im disgusted by it, Luntz added.
He even bluntly said, Ive been telling my friends and colleague that they have to find someone to replace me because they still need to hear from the public. My frustration is that almost every news network goes to the pundits rather than the people. We all have to teach civics, we have to teach civility, and we have to say enough is enough.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/frank-luntz-goes-off-on-media-polarization-after-contentious-focus-group-we-have-to-say-enough-is-enough/
David Pakman gives his thoughts on the focus group
RandySF
(58,911 posts)Nobody on the left talked about ballot box stuffing or non-citizens voting.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)We even tolerated a popular vote/electoral college mismatch.
We will NOT if it happens again.
If another Repuke gets in office through that constitutional aberration, I will be 150 percent secessionist.
Nevilledog
(51,122 posts)catbyte
(34,403 posts)You reap what you sow, buddy. Unfortunately, the rest of us do, too.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,003 posts)And can't even recognize his own freakin' monster.
Midnight Writer
(21,768 posts)He worked closely with Newt Gingrich in forging a new politics based on fear, innate bigotry, and twisted information.
catbyte
(34,403 posts)He got a taste of his own medicine.
Wounded Bear
(58,670 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)They are too stupid for Luntz. ergo, no need to give a shit what they think.
czarjak
(11,278 posts)You built that! NOT HA-HA, either. Period.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)Their ignorance is not as good as our facts.
Their lack of education is not as good as our expertise.
Their reliance on faith and gut feelings is not the same as our evidence driven decision making.
Their delusional fantasyland is not the same as our reality.
Their television court room procedural understanding of the Constitution and law and order is not as good as actual legal analysis grounded in proof.
They are not serious people. They repeat the same word salad and empty slogans. They have no receipts other than Fox, Breitbart, and Newmax.
Luntz created this monster.
They even look stupid.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Both sides are not to blame.
tanyev
(42,568 posts)halfulglas
(1,654 posts)on the day of Obama's inauguration? The one with McConnell and other "leaders" vowing total obstruction as the way to make Obama a one-term president, despite the dire economic condition the country was in.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)Within 15 minutes, knowing they were being watched by members of Congress, the focus quickly devolved into basically the worst Thanksgiving dinner of all time. Imagine half your family is the terrible, racist drunk uncle, and they all showed up. And they are not about to let facts or visitors get in the way of their stupid bullshit.
Luntz asked us about things like the insurrection, COVID, Wall Street, and the economy. But most of the time, people just used those as jumping off points to yell about ... well, whatever they felt like yelling about. Often, conspiracy theories peddled by Trump and friends. Only one Trump voter on the call seemed sane, and he agreed with impeaching Trump and removing him from office for the attempted coup.
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In the mid-90s, Luntz was one of the main architects of Newt Gingrich's "Contract with America," pushing racist stereotypes in order to advocate bills doing things like increasing mass incarceration and taking money away from poor people. He advised other Republicans to "speak like Gingrich" and use terms meant to demonize Democrats and Democratic policies.
https://www.wonkette.com/i-helped-break-frank-luntz
erpowers
(9,350 posts)Frank Luntz and Howard Kurtz, like many others, tried to make this a both sides issue. This is not a both sides issue. I do not think Democrats are trying to find information that validates what they think. I think Democrats are trying to find facts. Do the anchors on CNN and MSNBC routinely knowingly make false statements? I do not think they do. I think, for the most part, they just present the facts. The question, "How many Democrats/Joe Biden voters repeated false information, needed to be asked. I highly doubt Democrats/Joe Biden voters were as misinformed as Republicans/Trump voters.