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Why aren't they being charged with Felony Murder? (Original Post) Baltimike Jan 2021 OP
Completely Agree, a police officer was murdered bottomofthehill Jan 2021 #1
Have they found the guy who killed the police officer yet? choie Jan 2021 #6
Nope not yet, all the more reason to charge them all. bottomofthehill Jan 2021 #16
That's what they do in bank robberies. Cobalt Violet Jan 2021 #2
They could be. Laelth Jan 2021 #3
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Jan 2021 #4
And, apparently, the only ones being charged with conspiracy are vets SheltieLover Jan 2021 #5
Because felony murder is narrowly defined onenote Jan 2021 #7
Give it time lettucebe Jan 2021 #8
That would bring this coup d 'etat shit to a screeching halt,... magicarpet Jan 2021 #9
That's a very complicated charge with very specific elements. It takes time to build a case StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #10
Domestic terrorism is on the list. Sedition as well JT45242 Jan 2021 #11
Yep that's how I understand felony murder if someone is murder in the process of a crime that's it uponit7771 Jan 2021 #12
It is much a narrower rule than your understanding of it. onenote Jan 2021 #15
thx uponit7771 Jan 2021 #17
That is not the felony murder rule. former9thward Jan 2021 #13
Yes it is Baltimike Jan 2021 #18
I'm going to speculate here... 2naSalit Jan 2021 #14

bottomofthehill

(8,334 posts)
1. Completely Agree, a police officer was murdered
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:02 PM
Jan 2021

With a fire extinguisher no less. every one should be charged with Felony Murder the mob caused the death.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. They could be.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:05 PM
Jan 2021

In every jurisdiction I know, that would be an appropriate charge given the facts.

-Laelth

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
5. And, apparently, the only ones being charged with conspiracy are vets
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:16 PM
Jan 2021

They ALL should be charged with murdet & conspiracy!!!!!

onenote

(42,714 posts)
7. Because felony murder is narrowly defined
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:36 PM
Jan 2021

The typical felony murder provision specifies a limited number of crimes that can trigger a felony murder charge. These include arson, kidnapping, armed robbery, murder (by an accomplice) and some drug trafficking offenses. Disorderly conduct and trespass rarely are on that list and are not on the list of felony murder-associated crimes under DC or federal law. Federal law does include "treason" as a basis for a felony murder charge, but despite the loose use of the word in response to the insurrection, it is far more likely that the insurrectionists could be charged with sedition than treason. Federal law makes unauthorized entry into a federal building a felony, but it is not among the felony murder-associated crimes identified in federal law.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
8. Give it time
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:37 PM
Jan 2021

When they are headed to trial, then we can gripe about what they are or are not being charged with. For now, I'd wait and see.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
9. That would bring this coup d 'etat shit to a screeching halt,...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:37 PM
Jan 2021

.... by these fucking Fascists.

Over throwing the US Government ain't no boys will be boys sandbox toy time.

Nail these Nazis good,... the remaining Nazis will shut right the fuck up and act like adults instead of spoiled children.

JT45242

(2,281 posts)
11. Domestic terrorism is on the list. Sedition as well
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:41 PM
Jan 2021

Everyone should have five counts of felony murder. The stated plan was "hang mind pence" that is conspiracy to commit murder as well do the federal statute applies.

Stop pussyfooting around and start dropping hammers.

You will get to the top of the food chain and plea bargain a will roll in. Let each of them plea to long prison terms minimum for nonviolent participants is ten years before a parole hearing and they are banned from ever owning a firearm.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
15. It is much a narrower rule than your understanding of it.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:57 PM
Jan 2021

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The typical felony murder provision specifies a limited number of crimes that can trigger a felony murder charge. These include arson, kidnapping, armed robbery, murder (by an accomplice) and some drug trafficking offenses. Disorderly conduct and trespass rarely are on that list and are not on the list of felony murder-associated crimes under DC or federal law. Federal law does include "treason" as a basis for a felony murder charge, but despite the loose use of the word in response to the insurrection, it is far more likely that the insurrectionists could be charged with sedition than treason. Federal law makes unauthorized entry into a federal building a felony, but it is not among the felony murder-associated crimes identified in federal law.

former9thward

(32,027 posts)
13. That is not the felony murder rule.
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:43 PM
Jan 2021

Felony murder is charged when someone dies and it was foreseeable such an event might happen in the commission of a crime. That was not the case in the capitol situation and prosecutors know it.

Baltimike

(4,146 posts)
18. Yes it is
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 07:20 AM
Jan 2021

They were counting down on FB and other social media platforms. They openly said they wanted to kill AOC **AND** erected a gallows. They were sending messages out saying that they needed to be ready to 'die for Trump' and they brought bombs and tear gas.

How TF is ANYONE gonna try to play they should never have expected that no one would be killed?

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
14. I'm going to speculate here...
Sun Jan 24, 2021, 11:55 PM
Jan 2021

I think there are Grand Juries assembled to address this on the criminal justice side of it all. When a GJ is involved, the charges come from that process which would mean that the GJ has to do its thing before charges are issued. These being among the gravest federal crimes, I would imagine that GJs would be running the process for the time being until they are adjourned after determining what the charges are/not and issuing charges or not.

Just guessing.

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