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Twenty-dollar bill going from Andrew Jackson to Harriet Tubman (Original Post) Gothmog Jan 2021 OP
That's gonna bring out the racists... May they send all their "spoiled" $20s to me! hlthe2b Jan 2021 #1
They're all out in the open anyway DonaldsRump Jan 2021 #10
Of course it should have occured by now. hlthe2b Jan 2021 #12
Yes, they wear red hats. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #16
They were holding out for the twenty for Donnie. sheshe2 Jan 2021 #54
The only paper Trump's face belongs on..... Prof. Toru Tanaka Jan 2021 #57
Flushing him works for me. sheshe2 Jan 2021 #59
Good. I hope it drives them crazy(er). nt live love laugh Jan 2021 #67
Recall that this was planned in 2016, then Trump and Mnuchin killed it greenjar_01 Jan 2021 #2
Long overdue. BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #3
The right wingers should get together and have $20 bill burning parties Walleye Jan 2021 #4
Any chance you could have them send them to me? Dan Jan 2021 #8
We should encourage them to get rid of the filthy things as quickly as possible 🤪😆 Walleye Jan 2021 #11
Send them a message that you have a big furnace all fired up and ready to go, Blue_true Jan 2021 #60
Brilliant idea! Walleye Jan 2021 #63
A furnace fueled by... SergeStorms Jan 2021 #73
Yes, that would have them slobbering at the mouth to hand over those $20s. nt Blue_true Jan 2021 #83
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #5
Is Tubman's picture deliberately off-center? FakeNoose Jan 2021 #15
Yes, it definitely looks that way to me Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #17
I just pulled a five, ten and a twenty out of my wallet to make sure that I was right when.... EarnestPutz Jan 2021 #19
Thanks! I've got a few ones and maybe a fiver FakeNoose Jan 2021 #20
The last update in 2009 for anti-counterfeit measures put all the portraits off center BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #21
They should definitely make her portrait looked more "etched" instead of photographic. LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #34
I think that was just a draft thing for illustration BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #38
I like this image of Harriet Tubman better than the one shown in the OP. IndyOp Jan 2021 #53
They are supposed to continue working on it again BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #64
I'm still not a fan of the proposed portraits I've seen Bucky Jan 2021 #78
Yes, it's deliberate lastlib Jan 2021 #31
"Bureau of Engraving doesn't "make mistakes" with currency." BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #39
that's the Mint's doing.... lastlib Jan 2021 #50
We have one of the Mints here in Philly BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #51
That one is worth some bucks, especially if Prof. Toru Tanaka Jan 2021 #58
Believe this is photo shopped, true double stamps affect entire coin KS Toronado Jan 2021 #70
Pic came from here BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #74
Wow, I'm blown away! KS Toronado Jan 2021 #81
Yeah and I think BumRushDaShow Jan 2021 #82
"It's an Illuminati message !!" sandensea Jan 2021 #45
The reason for that may be to have the required spacing at the top of her head. Blue_true Jan 2021 #62
Good, another dick move of Dump's treestar Jan 2021 #76
It's beautiful. I saw the movie that was made of her life and struggle. I was so inspired! CTyankee Jan 2021 #6
I'd like us to change people on currency every 15-25 years or so Retrograde Jan 2021 #7
Maybe they could also tell us how the Fed made $20s worth only $5 bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #14
Statuary Hall statues are chosen by the states, iirc. Sometimes they get changed--by the states nt Hekate Jan 2021 #29
The only thing you'd have to think of would be,... LudwigPastorius Jan 2021 #37
We've had Jackson on the $20 for quite a while Retrograde Jan 2021 #49
no kidding, hey racists if you don't want that $20 I'll take it off your hands for ya! JuJuYoshida Jan 2021 #9
Hopefully MAGAts will pay a premium for Jacksons and discount the $20 Tubmans bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #13
It is deliberately off-center Hela Jan 2021 #18
Take Old Hickory out behind the wood pile! Karadeniz Jan 2021 #22
$20 in the South is no less than $20 elsewhere DFW Jan 2021 #23
She'll be the second woman to appear on US currency. Klaralven Jan 2021 #24
Isn't she the third? Orangepeel Jan 2021 #35
They are on coins, not on currency. Klaralven Jan 2021 #42
First woman on currency was Martha Washington I do believe. roamer65 Jan 2021 #55
Coins are currency just as bills are. oldsoftie Jan 2021 #61
It's a numismatic distinction. roamer65 Jan 2021 #71
Ever heard of a "case quarter"? oldsoftie Jan 2021 #79
No. roamer65 Jan 2021 #80
My grandfather used the bit thing... GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #84
Amongst all the good news this one makes me smile the most. Biophilic Jan 2021 #25
I like this picture better but there is even another... Historic NY Jan 2021 #26
That is a lovely image of Harriet Tubman! csziggy Jan 2021 #46
+100 nt reACTIONary Jan 2021 #75
Yes! mcar Jan 2021 #27
It's about time, and I look forward to using them! Hekate Jan 2021 #28
A small victory in a cashless society. Sneederbunk Jan 2021 #30
I am really glad to hear this. It is about time, for sure. PatrickforO Jan 2021 #32
Yes!! So happy this is back on track. Politicub Jan 2021 #33
Well, I can still use my stamps to fix the old ones AllyCat Jan 2021 #36
LOL - The mouth breathing, knuckle dragging, magats are going to love that. - nt BrightKnight Jan 2021 #40
YES! Duppers Jan 2021 #41
Yay! The world is slowly gldstwmn Jan 2021 #43
Do younger people even use paper currency anymore? frazzled Jan 2021 #44
If it's well designed and on polymer, I am looking forward to it. roamer65 Jan 2021 #72
Great news! This guy is going to accomplish more in his first week than trump in FOUR years. George II Jan 2021 #47
Good deal. Paladin Jan 2021 #48
good bdamomma Jan 2021 #52
Then they should put Lin-Manuel Miranda on the ten-dollar bill JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2021 #56
☝️ THIS! Drum Jan 2021 #66
Did the assholes ever give any reason for stopping the plan? Or did they just say,well racism Walleye Jan 2021 #65
I'm Irish so I supposed I should be proud of AJ anamnua Jan 2021 #68
Dump's head will explode. I couldn't be surprised if he stopped using 20-dollar bills and banned Nitram Jan 2021 #69
Does trump every pay for anything? Gothmog Jan 2021 #77

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
10. They're all out in the open anyway
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:56 PM
Jan 2021

This should have already occurred by now had Trump and his henchpeople not stopped it. It no doubt will infuriate the racists, but to hell with them.

This, rather than white supremacy, is unity!

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(1,970 posts)
57. The only paper Trump's face belongs on.....
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 08:37 PM
Jan 2021

is toilet paper. To be used liberally.

Kudos for the 20 to life comment!

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
59. Flushing him works for me.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 08:46 PM
Jan 2021

However his face? Not letting him that close to me.

Welcome to DU...and thank you, Prof.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
2. Recall that this was planned in 2016, then Trump and Mnuchin killed it
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:52 PM
Jan 2021

Because they're racist shitheads.

Good on Biden for reviving this change.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
60. Send them a message that you have a big furnace all fired up and ready to go,
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 08:51 PM
Jan 2021

to just be ready to forklift those pallets of twenties on your big truck when you show up.

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
15. Is Tubman's picture deliberately off-center?
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:15 PM
Jan 2021

Not sure if this was planned, or maybe it's done to "fool" the counterfeiters?


Rhiannon12866

(205,552 posts)
17. Yes, it definitely looks that way to me
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:18 PM
Jan 2021

They have included more information on the right than the left, but I'm not sure if this was deliberate or made the off center photo necessary.

EarnestPutz

(2,120 posts)
19. I just pulled a five, ten and a twenty out of my wallet to make sure that I was right when....
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:33 PM
Jan 2021

....I point out that Lincoln, Hamilton and Jackson are all off center on the current notes. A single with Washington still has the portrait centered. That said, I'm surprised that I've got few bucks in my wallet at all, this late in the month.

BumRushDaShow

(129,130 posts)
21. The last update in 2009 for anti-counterfeit measures put all the portraits off center
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:36 PM
Jan 2021


This was the newer design for the Tubman $20 (updated from the one in the OP tweet that had the old paper currency design) -

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
34. They should definitely make her portrait looked more "etched" instead of photographic.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:29 PM
Jan 2021

The picture in the previous design looks a little better in this respect.

Maybe just my OCD, but I think they should try for a unified aesthetic appearance consistent with the other bills.

Regardless, it'll be much better opening my wallet and seeing her face than that old genocidal racist, Jackson.

BumRushDaShow

(129,130 posts)
38. I think that was just a draft thing for illustration
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jan 2021

I expect if they were ready to go to the presses with it, the final version would might have been altered enough to do that.

There have been multiple versions floating out there -

IndyOp

(15,525 posts)
53. I like this image of Harriet Tubman better than the one shown in the OP.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:47 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe because it's more like a photo, less stylized? Her shawl needs work in this image - I'd like to see it match one of her skin tones.

BumRushDaShow

(129,130 posts)
64. They are supposed to continue working on it again
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 08:58 PM
Jan 2021

and hopefully decide and get it done.

The OP one is shown on the old version (pre-2009) of the $20 before it got watermarked, micro-printed, embossed, threaded, and "colorized" a la Ted Turner.

Never thought I'd see U.S. paper currency anything other than green & black but then never thought I'd see newspapers in color either until USA Today showed how effective it could be.

Bucky

(54,027 posts)
78. I'm still not a fan of the proposed portraits I've seen
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:50 PM
Jan 2021

I'd kinda like to see the portrait include her brandishing a pistol and kicking a bounty hunter into the swamp.

But maybe a more historically accurate picture like this would work well on the back.



lastlib

(23,251 posts)
31. Yes, it's deliberate
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:24 PM
Jan 2021

Whether it's done to forestall counterfeiting, I can't say, but Bureau of Engraving doesn't "make mistakes" with currency.

BumRushDaShow

(129,130 posts)
39. "Bureau of Engraving doesn't "make mistakes" with currency."
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:42 PM
Jan 2021


As a kid collecting coins, I was continually on the lookout for a "1955 double-die".

lastlib

(23,251 posts)
50. that's the Mint's doing....
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:26 PM
Jan 2021

not the BEP's.

BTW, my dad had a few of those double die wheatbacks--and probly never knew it!

BumRushDaShow

(129,130 posts)
51. We have one of the Mints here in Philly
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:37 PM
Jan 2021

Used to be able to tour it and get little bags of pennies or slugs.

I chuckle at the old Mint building (now part of the Community College of Philadelphia) that had the old stone engraving on the facade that said "Vnited States Mint". (the "U" issue with stone carving) Used to go to the school across the street from it.

KS Toronado

(17,267 posts)
70. Believe this is photo shopped, true double stamps affect entire coin
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:49 PM
Jan 2021

not just the lettering on one side. Notice the lower LIBE are above the upper LIBE, but the upper RTY are above the
lower? Very interesting as Arte Johnson would say.














rty

KS Toronado

(17,267 posts)
81. Wow, I'm blown away!
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jan 2021

From what I'm seeing, there is a number of these in circulation so they are real. Apparently a tool & die maker
made a mistake and wasn't caught prior to production run. Thanks, I learned something new today.

BumRushDaShow

(129,130 posts)
82. Yeah and I think
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 06:05 PM
Jan 2021

they were coming out of more than one Mint if I'm not mistaken, although I *think* they focus on specific domination coins at the Mints now (we were doing pennies here). I was actually surprised to see there were coins coming out of here in Philly without the "P". I sort of always assumed no letter/Mint mark meant the (regular metal) coins came out of D.C. but some were coming out of other Mints. Just burned the "P", "D", "S" and nothing in my mind!

There was a huge bust of Ben Franklin that was covered in pennies outside of the Betsy Ross House (it was eventually removed and I think the below may have been when it had been denuded of its pennies ) -

?ver=6

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
62. The reason for that may be to have the required spacing at the top of her head.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 08:55 PM
Jan 2021

If her body is centered, her hair wipes out part of the word “Treasury”.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
7. I'd like us to change people on currency every 15-25 years or so
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 02:55 PM
Jan 2021

same with the ones depicted in Statuary Hall in the Capitol. There are a lot of great Americans - scientists, artists, humanitarians as well as politicians - who deserve recognition. Let's not stick with the same people forever! Other countries seem to be able to handle this: why couldn't we?

I picked odd numbers years for terms so they don't coincide with presidential or congressional terms.

Hekate

(90,715 posts)
29. Statuary Hall statues are chosen by the states, iirc. Sometimes they get changed--by the states nt
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:09 PM
Jan 2021

LudwigPastorius

(9,155 posts)
37. The only thing you'd have to think of would be,...
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:39 PM
Jan 2021

that by changing frequently, you're opening a door in which the portrait selection would be apt to be politically driven and dependent on who was in power in Congress at the time.

Do we really want to see a Ronald Reagan $50? ...or a Chief Justice Rehnquist $10?

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
49. We've had Jackson on the $20 for quite a while
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:25 PM
Jan 2021

And if we change frequently, anyone a given segment dislikes will only have a short tenure. The only criterion I'd impose (and this goes for naming things after people as well) is that they have to be dead at least 20 years in order to make sure they have some lasting influence.

Hela

(440 posts)
18. It is deliberately off-center
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:29 PM
Jan 2021

Just like other updated currency:



Lots of other features to foil would-be counterfeiters. That's a cool website, btw!

https://www.uscurrency.gov/denominations/

DFW

(54,411 posts)
23. $20 in the South is no less than $20 elsewhere
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jan 2021

And don't forget the legend of the counterfeiters who printed up a bunch of $18 dollar bills by mistake. They thought they could get rid of them one by one in the south, so they drove down to a small town and asked asked the clerk at a small store if he could break an $18 dollar bill. He smiled, and said , "sure." The countefeiters were thrilled until he asked, "How do you want it? In $6 dollar bills or in $9 dollar bills?"

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
55. First woman on currency was Martha Washington I do believe.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 06:56 PM
Jan 2021

She was on the first series of $1 large sized silver certificates in the late 1800’s.

oldsoftie

(12,558 posts)
61. Coins are currency just as bills are.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 08:54 PM
Jan 2021

Anything used as an exchange for goods or services is considered currency

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
71. It's a numismatic distinction.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:52 PM
Jan 2021

We call the metal “coins”, the paper “currency”.

You are right it’s all currency, but it’s our little idiosyncratic way of distinction in the numismatic world.

oldsoftie

(12,558 posts)
79. Ever heard of a "case quarter"?
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 04:11 PM
Jan 2021

Street slang when someone wants an actual quarter and not just .25. That was a weird one when i heard it. I dont know why they didnt just ask for a quarter.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
80. No.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 04:19 PM
Jan 2021

In Michigan, I need a quarter means I need the coin itself.

I know of these slangs...

“two bits” in ref to a quarter is from the days when we primarily used Spanish American coin as our money.

A 1/2 real was a “fip” or “picayune”. The NOLA newspaper is named after what it used to cost.

A 1 real was a “bit” or “levy” or “shilling”.

A 2 real was “two bits” or a “quarter”.

Case quarter sounds like a regional reference.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
84. My grandfather used the bit thing...
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 07:21 PM
Jan 2021

2 bits=25 cents
4 bits=50 cents
6 bits=75 cents.

I always heard that when we had gold dollars people would carve off the percentage of the coin to pay the amount they needed. Heard that is why there are so few remaining gold coins.

He was born in 1904 in SW Arkansas and the family had been there from before statehood. Still knew story’s of Native American communities.

He had Indian mounds on his farm and none of the kids were allowed to walk on them even when I was a kid. Said it was desecration of their graves. I remember as a boy dove hunting and one of my second cousins too up station on the mound, doubtless to get a better shot. Man, he about an ass beating that day. My uncle owns the land and the policy still holds.

Biophilic

(3,666 posts)
25. Amongst all the good news this one makes me smile the most.
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 03:58 PM
Jan 2021

It just seems so symbolic of what has changed and is in the midst of being changed. In some ways it seems so minor and in other ways it seems and is so major. A black woman on the 20 dollar bill. Too cool.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
46. That is a lovely image of Harriet Tubman!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:02 PM
Jan 2021

I agree - that would be a better picture to use as the inspiration for the image for the $20 bill.

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
41. YES!
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 04:47 PM
Jan 2021

Oh Hell YES!!!

My hubby has said for yrs now that racist asshole's picture should be banished and replaced by Harriet Tubman. She was a hero!

Btw, if you've not watched the movie, please do.


There's a street here in Williamsburg named "Harriet Tubman Drive."

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
44. Do younger people even use paper currency anymore?
Mon Jan 25, 2021, 05:00 PM
Jan 2021

A few years ago my spouse handed the checkout young woman at the Container Store a twenty-dollar bill, and she kept the looking at it and looking at it, as if she didn’t know what it was. He said, “It’s money,” and then she replied, “You don’t see these very often.” Whatevs!

I, for one, can’t wait to get my first Harriet Tubman twenty.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
72. If it's well designed and on polymer, I am looking forward to it.
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:54 PM
Jan 2021

If it’s the usual paper and poorly designed then it’s spending money.

anamnua

(1,114 posts)
68. I'm Irish so I supposed I should be proud of AJ
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:27 AM
Jan 2021

who was the son of Irish immigrants. I’m not. He was a racist git.

Nitram

(22,822 posts)
69. Dump's head will explode. I couldn't be surprised if he stopped using 20-dollar bills and banned
Tue Jan 26, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jan 2021

them from Mar-a-Lago and all his other properties.

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