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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Kyrsten ... is not open to changing her mind about eliminating the filibuster."
might be entertaining a shift on the filibuster.
Not so, says spox: "Kyrsten ... is not open to changing her mind about eliminating the filibuster."
It's not just @Sen_JoeManchin, folks!
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Walleye
(31,028 posts)Does she think she couldve gotten elected without the Democratic Party backing her up? Never shouldve eliminated earmarks. Theres got to be something we can offer her.
drray23
(7,633 posts)I was thinking the exact same thing. This was a tool party leaders had to arrive at compromises. After that got removed and the fillibuster downgraded to a simple procedural one (where you dont have to actually fillibuster on the floor of the senate) all efforts at partisanship became destined to failure.
Walleye
(31,028 posts)Used to be called pork barrel. Pet projects for the home district. Then they shortened it to pork and used it to refer to anything in the bill they didnt like. The degradation of our language is a GOP tactic.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,492 posts)And dont think they wont. They were dead a bunch of times before this and they came back stronger and worse than ever.
We dont have the numbers to make the move worthwhile. We just dont. It would be absurd to nuke the filibuster and still be unable to get anything passed. Wed look like fools.
What what needs to be done is end this non-filibuster thing. Make them get up and speak for hours on end to try to stop a bill.
Gregory Peccary
(490 posts)It seems that the Repugs got everything they wanted no problem. The Tax cut sham, endless judges confirmed, a cabinet of horrors, etc etc. And they would have gutted the ACA if not for McCain's thumb.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,492 posts)The tax cut was done under reconciliation and the filibuster was eliminated for federal judges under Obama. They went and nuked it for Supreme Court justices.
They get things they want because they hang together. They generally vote as a block. We dont have that. We have conservatives, moderates and liberals in the party. Our own people make everything hard for us. We had 60 in 2009 for a brief time and were still barely able to do anything. That was the time to eliminate the filibuster. We had the numbers to offset the Liebermans and Nelsons. We dont have that now.
Kid Berwyn
(14,909 posts)By the time we get things figured out, the midterms will be here and then, you know.
Lets give the pukes the whats for. The leadership may be surprised to discover how popular the policies would be.
Who knows? We may achieve critical mass, if not unity.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... following him wont do it and ransack all kinds of voter suppression measures on the federal level.
This is crazy to think republicans still care about the republic after Jan 6th and all what happened last year
Marius25
(3,213 posts)get in power anyway, because we were too weak to do it?
BlueTsunami2018
(3,492 posts)And have had every opportunity to do so.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Things change.
-Laelth
Bev54
(10,053 posts)Find her financial backers, get on them to change her mind.
ChazII
(6,205 posts)campaign commercials said she was running to represent Arizona. Not red, not blue but Arizona. That was back then when Arizona was more red than purple and certainly not blue. Maybe she is trying to keep her word that was made back then when she first won her seat. Maybe the fact that AZ is blue and we have Joe as President Biden is still sinking in.
RussBLib
(9,020 posts)gotta get out of this chokehold McConnell has been able to put on the Dems