Biden Ready to Stop Efforts to Woo Republicans

[babylonsister]

https://politicalwire.com/2021/01/29/biden-ready-to-stop-efforts-to-woo-republicans/

Biden Ready to Stop Efforts to Woo Republicans
January 29, 2021 at 7:59 pm EST By Taegan Goddard

“A week and a half into Joe Biden’s presidency, Democrats are adopting a more muscular approach to dealing with Republicans, essentially declaring they will work with them if they can but are prepared move past them if they must,” the Washington Post reports.

“Many Democrats are concluding that Republicans are unlikely to work with them and that waiting for them to do so would be a mistake. Biden seems to be heeding that argument to some degree.”

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

1. Good.

They don't deserve to be wooed.

[bdamomma]

2. Now is

not the time to be cordial, not with them they have showed their truly dark side. Just move forward.

We are with you!!!

[SergeStorms]

20. About 70% of the country...

is ready to move forward without the Trumpublicans if needed. People want things done, positive things, and if the Trumpublicans are just going to obstruct and act like petulant children, they're finished. They're tired of their bullshit.

[Blue_true]

67. We have only 2 years, and even that isn't a sure thing, as Leahy's illness showed.

If we legislate well, then republicans will have tough sledding in the 2022 midterms, if we allow them to delay and stop progress, we are likely to get blamed for the outcomes.

We need to do what they did, when they had total power, they didn’t remotely care about what our side wanted to do. I say stomp the shit out of them, get stuff done for Americans and take our chances in 2022.

[Lasher]

3. I hope he's learned from Obama's mistake.

One way cooperation is called capitulation.

[Duppers]

8. Amen to that. 👍

[Vivienne235729]

18. 1000+

[Progressive Jones]

35. I think President Joe will prove to be more aggressive than President Obama.

Certainly in a positive way. It's just a matter of different styles and personalities.
President Joe is just "grittier" and, I believe, more street smart, with a lot of Washington experience.
He knows what he's doing. I can tell.

President Obama sometimes seemed too hesitant to me and, like you said, there was too much capitulation.
He seemed to be doing a juggling act at times, trying to please or appease as many as possible.
Still, I saw him as a good leader. He was serious about his job and our nation.
I'd like to see him as a Supreme Court Justice someday.

[DeminPennswoods]

38. I think so, too

Obama was conciliatory by nature. Rs took maximum advantage of this. Biden is, too, to an extent, but he's not a pushover and won't be. He won't be mean to those who disagree with him, but he's not going to let them stand in the way either.

[NewJeffCT]

54. I think Obama learned his lesson

and in the 2nd term, used more executive orders instead of trying to propose legislation that already had compromises built into it.

[BComplex]

42. Obama was our first black president. He would have been crucified if he had been more aggressive

at the time. We eventually ended up where we are now, but if Obama had been more aggressive, we would have had this capitol riot a lot sooner, and Joe wouldn't have gotten to be president and do what he's doing now, and save our butts from these racist nutjobs.

Obama made sure we might have another black president someday by the way he governed. If he had gone (more) aggressive, it would be a lot more difficult for the ones coming behind him.

[Escurumbele]

57. Well said...

100%

[DeminPennswoods]

74. Obama is a centrist by nature

That's just who he is. It's not good or bad, it just is.

[BComplex]

76. That too. I read both of his books at the time.

He was definitely a centrist at heart back then.

[Quixote1818]

64. I think it would have been harder for Obama to get away with what Biden is doing

Biden being a white male gives him an upper hand in this racist nation. And times have changed a bit the past 4 years. A lot of people have caught on the GOP is nuts.

[Blue_true]

66. I agree. Don't expect republicans to be responsible. Trample right over them to get

critical help to Americans, cities and towns.

[joshcryer]

72. Obama spent 8 years trying to be reasonable.

There's no reasoning with these fascists. Rural society is faltering. They can't support themselves and want the federal government to keep supporting them. Let the small towns die if we must. They do not want what is right for America, only for themselves, which causes the vast majority of Americans to suffer.

[Blue Owl]

4. Waste of time...

[Timewas]

5. Yes

They are going to do their best to impede or derail any attempts by dems to do anything tha would actually help the people

[sheshe2]

6. Day one they made it clear that they will work with one president only.

They will show fealty to a disgraced, twice impeached president that terrorized our Senate and Congress with a well planned insurrection. A president that already swore fealty to putin years ago.

[Wawannabe]

7. Kick

[radius777]

9. Agree, Turtle will go back to his old playbook

of jamming up gov't so voters in 2022 blame the party in power.

Dems must pass this bill via Reconciliation - voters want results and don't really care what process is used to deliver it.

[OnDoutside]

45. Yes, and get the message out that Republicans tried to block everything.

[Blue_true]

68. That is where our side having more aggressive mouthpieces is important.

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We don’t need the Van Joneses of the world. Republican mouthpieces come prepared for a fight, from second one starts spewing their nonsensical party line and refuses to yield the mike, our mouthpieces often stop to “consider” the republicans’ bullshit.

[OnDoutside]

75. Yes, and even better it would be truth/facts !

[Ford_Prefect]

10. This is the time to play hardball. They are still trying to turn back the clock or gum up the works.

... Or much worse, if they can arrange it.

I said it before and I was not the first: Burn the damn GOP to the ground.

[MustLoveBeagles]

11. He tried and the Repub's refuse to do so

It's best to just move on.

[iluvtennis]

12. Good. I applaud this decision.

[monkeyman1]

13. republican loser's club Florida man @MARA-A-LAGOON !

Florida MAN is getting closer every day to being in jail & worry about being " EPSTEIN ED".

[Marie Marie]

14. And the polls seem to indicate that most are pleased with what he is accomplishing.

[uponit7771]

16. +1

[ailsagirl]

27. How could any normal, intelligent person not feel that way??

Oh... yes, you're right

Never mind

[mountain grammy]

15. He's got momentum

51.3% of the vote, majorities in the House and Senate, a huge approval rating, and some of the smartest people in America on his team.

Who the fuck needs republicans? Go Joe!

[Midnight Writer]

17. It's a damn shame. But I don't see an alternative.

[hibbing]

19. I'm hoping this happens

Most of them are batshit.

Peace

[SunSeeker]

21. Good. nt

[MagickMuffin]

22. Well since only Democrats are willing to legislate and do their jobs

I think it is a swell way to accomplish the things to get us back into shape. The last admin let everything get outta shape and now we will

WHIP IT

WHIP IT

GOOD!



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Give the past a slip
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When a problem comes along
You must whip it
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Into shape
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Try to detect it
It's not too late
To whip it
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When a good time turns around
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Unless you whip it
No one gets away
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I say whip it
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Give the past a slip
Step on a crack
Break your mama's back
When a problem comes along
You must whip it
Before the cream sits out too…

[Chakaconcarne]

23. Fake it if you have to, but don't hold back being ruthless when warranted.

[dchill]

24. Glad it only took a week and a half.

[ailsagirl]

28. He probably had no illusions about it but...

fair man that he is, he decided to give them this one chance.

[TryLogic]

25. Just do good. Unfortunately, that is not what Republicans do.

It is a little disorienting, but wonderful, to have government personnel speak the truth. Unfortunately, that is not what Republicans do.

I sure hope the justice department, FBI, etc. are doing what needs to be done.

[Grokenstein]

26. He gave them a chance.

Now comes the stick.

[Jon King]

29. Ram through good things for the people, red and blue states...

And let the voters decide in 2022 and 2024. My bet is that good governing that benefits the majority will be rewarded.

I think Biden no doubt learned from Obama trying to play nice and getting the shaft.

[DeminPennswoods]

39. You make a good point about good governing

Lots of reporters and pundits, imo, make the mistake of conflating people who really are anti-government with the majority who just want government to work efficiently and effectively in their interests.

[drray23]

51. I agree. That has happened before in the past.

For example, when social security was introduced, it was widely criticized as irresponsible by its detractors.
They wanted to kill it. Now, it would be unthinkable. Likewise, the ACA which President Obama signed after the democrats passed the bill with reconciliation and zero republicans is now part of the landscape and many people including gop voters would not want to lose its benefits anymore.

[Blue_true]

69. The legislation MUST be well implemented.

If we pass it and go a poor job of implementation we get hurt in 2022 particularly. So, as you pointed out, we need all around good governance. One benefit of that is that people like DeSantis and Neom will cut their own throats in 2022 if they try to be obstructionists.

[DSandra]

30. The Republicans have been corrupted by greed, selfishness, racism,hate, deceitfulness, and arrogance

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The devil’s foot soldiers are likely not open to working with us in good faith.

[Blue_true]

70. I am afraid that it is more than greed. They are driven by race hatred and hatred of immigrants. nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

31. How do you woo the Radical Republican Reich? Offer a few quarts of your blood? Pin a target on?

[yaesu]

32. presidencial terms are just too short to waste time trying to "get along" with fascists as Obama

found out, they were in a meeting before he even took office planning ways to shut down his presidency, its time our party snaps out of its high road fantasy and gets to work, steamroll over the fascists, they are the enemy of Democracy.

[oasis]

33. FTGOP

[Meowmee]

34. If true

I am glad he took little time to agree with this

[Blasphemer]

36. "To some degree"?

After what he witnessed with Obama? There should be no question that "reaching across the aisle" is a non-starter with the 21st century GOP. That time has long passed.

[Layzeebeaver]

53. It's a trial ballon or tacit communication to the opposing side.

“If you want to work together then great! We can achieve more together.”

“If you choose to retrench on your positions?...

...well then, Fuck You! We got this! AND your positions and behaviours will be recorded for posterity and any future political ads and flash mob protests.”

[eShirl]

37. Good. Then when they cry, tell them they brought it on themselves.

[Bear Creek]

40. Joe Manchin isn't on board

https://www.wsaz.com/2021/01/30/sen-joe-manchin-reacts-to-wsaz-interview-with-vice-pres-kamala-harris/

Someone forgot to tell him.

[babylonsister]

61. He rarely is.

But I imagine he's getting an earful. I hope he listens.

[Blue_true]

71. Despite his drawbacks, he is a faithful Democrat.

He could make things easier for himself by turning repugh, he has not.

Biden need to invite him, Simena, Tomey and Murkowski to the White House for a few dinners, drinks and “discussions”. I believe that will yield great benefits for the American people.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

41. Plain common sense. Republicans will block everything they can,

if they can. No sense wasting time by expecting anything good to come from from them.

Republicans haven't done anything good for our country since Eisenhower signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956.

[AntiFascist]

43. Excellent time for this! n/t

[ancianita]

44. Just do what you want, Joe, and say the trumpcult gave you no choice.

[msfiddlestix]

46. Biden intends to work for the American People. He's doing things for all the Voters.

He never promised to work with TRumplicon Traitors and Terrorists.

And I whole heartily approve.

[niyad]

47. Good. He has already spent way too much time treating them like sane humans.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

48. Good. And everyone will know he tried, so that's usable against repuke slime.

[BobTheSubgenius]

49. And cue Outraged Bitching in: 5....4....3...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

50. Let them say "Biden is President. He won an accurate count. The Steal was a lie." . . . . nt

[bucolic_frolic]

52. Republicans are ceding the sanity, competence, health, and patriotism issues

Let Republicans have at it. Let them destroy one another. Whack them as we can for their violence. The public is with us on this.

[diane in sf]

55. I wouldn't waste more than 10 minutes. Let's arm twist the blue dogs to nuke the filibuster and

get stuff done. Supporting voting rights in all 50 states is especially important. And adding DC and Puerto Rico as states, if we can, would help secure the Senate from lunatic minority rule.

[C Moon]

56. FDR 'em, Joe!

[mvd]

58. Good. Let's use reconciliation

We can get a far better deal working with the Manchin (who recently said he wants Biden to succeed) and Sinema types than we can needing Republicans.

[Mabel]

60. Don't reward bad behavior

Give republicans a treat and an attaboy only when they do something positive.

[demtenjeep]

62. he lived through Obama trying to be inclusive. He tried

but he will say fuck them

[Quixote1818]

63. Holy shit! Dems have FINALLY learned their lesson!!!! Lucy always pulls the fucking football

away, so don't play with that little twerp at all! Take the ball and play your own game.

[Blue_true]

65. I believe that former President Obama lost valuable time trying to

get republicans to act in a just and fair manor.

We should use their tactics and use any available tool to ram needed legislation right over their prone bodies. Screw bipartisanship when all they are trying to do is delay and defeat, they don’t care about solving pressing problems.

[Catch2.2]

73. I feel like the Dems...

are Charlie Brown and the Republicans are Lucy holding the football.