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vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:10 AM Feb 2021

I made a dumb funny at my nutjob cousin

Shes about 20 years older than me. She keeps telling me when I hit my mid 30s I'll be conservative. I responded with you said that when I hit my mid 20s I would be. Still wasn't, then you said I would be when I hit my 30s. Still didn't happen. So now you're saying my mid 30s? And when that doesn't happen. Are you gonna push it back like QAnon keeps pushing back the great plan? That pissed her off pretty quickly.



This argument started because I began HRT and she thinks I'm mentally ill.

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I made a dumb funny at my nutjob cousin (Original Post) vercetti2021 Feb 2021 OP
I don't do politics at family gatherings TlalocW Feb 2021 #1
Haha vercetti2021 Feb 2021 #8
I don't do family gatherings. I prefer to associate with a better class of people. abqtommy Feb 2021 #24
I'm about 30 years older than you Freddie Feb 2021 #2
Same here. GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #25
60 here, didn't happen but my father never thought it would. Now, my mom said when I hit puberty I LizBeth Feb 2021 #3
If caring about my neighbors is mental illness KentuckyWoman Feb 2021 #4
Mentally ill because you started HRT? canetoad Feb 2021 #5
I'm ill because I'm trans vercetti2021 Feb 2021 #7
Cousins are the kind of rellies canetoad Feb 2021 #13
I have the same political beliefs I had as a teenager. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #6
Sometimes when you use initials - some of them are not familiar to some of us old folks. Dan Feb 2021 #9
One simple question I asked myself made me a liberal PurgedVoter Feb 2021 #10
I am quite conservative, but as defined in English, not by right wing Fox pundits DFW Feb 2021 #14
:) for your kind of conservative. nt Hortensis Feb 2021 #18
I refuse to let myself be defined by a propaganda outlet mislabling itself as a news broadcaster. DFW Feb 2021 #20
Right. And I believe in personal responsibility and Hortensis Feb 2021 #21
Exactly. DFW Feb 2021 #22
😎😁 Sounds like it's similar to the way Joe Biden lives his life. Good job. Walleye Feb 2021 #23
I was 16 when Bobby and MLK were shot DFW Feb 2021 #11
How Can One Be A Conservative When They Are Extinct DanieRains Feb 2021 #12
One could publish a dictionary just with words Republicans have rendered meaningless. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2021 #15
That's easy. They just change the meaning of the word to suit their prejudices. DFW Feb 2021 #16
Roughly 1/2 the human race is conservative by personality type. Hortensis Feb 2021 #19
It's like how I always said I'd never have children and everybody said I'd change my mind. betsuni Feb 2021 #17
People told me that too. I'm 75 and still not a conservative. Hang in there. nt Binkie The Clown Feb 2021 #26

TlalocW

(15,389 posts)
1. I don't do politics at family gatherings
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:24 AM
Feb 2021

And apparently my brother-in-law's step-dad never got the message. He has what I call a televangelist smile - holier-than-thou smirk and thinks through some sort of combination of being old and religious, he's always right. I was crashing after Thanksgiving dinner when he thought he could ambush me - I'm the most outspoken liberal in the family, and my sister and his stepson are the most conservative so we run the gamut. I can't remember what it was, but because I do read about politics incessantly I basically Gish-Galloped him, first explaining that whatever he said to me was the FOX News version of things, then explained what the actual version was, and then explained why the actual version was actually a good thing. I finished and leaned my head back on the couch and closed my eyes but kept them open a little, and the smirk disappeared from his face, and he stalked off.

TlalocW

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
25. Same here.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 09:33 AM
Feb 2021

I have noticed that in my sisters, as well. They're way more liberal than they were 20 years ago. Only my brother has gotten right-wing looney with age, but he's a special case. Retired law enforcement. They fucked him up good. He wasn't raised that way.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
3. 60 here, didn't happen but my father never thought it would. Now, my mom said when I hit puberty I
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 01:27 AM
Feb 2021

wouldn't get along with her. I did. Then she said I was just running a couple years late, and at 18 told her, still didn't happen.

So, it is funny but irritating someone thinking they can define you

canetoad

(17,178 posts)
13. Cousins are the kind of rellies
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 04:07 AM
Feb 2021

That you only need to see every so often. Don't argue. Smile beatifically and luxuriously scratch your genitals.

Irish_Dem

(47,321 posts)
6. I have the same political beliefs I had as a teenager.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:10 AM
Feb 2021

A liberal, progressive democrat.

Don't ask how many decades ago I was a teenager.


Dan

(3,579 posts)
9. Sometimes when you use initials - some of them are not familiar to some of us old folks.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:45 AM
Feb 2021

Had to look it up to understand the context of the last sentence (smile). Good luck with the HRT.

PurgedVoter

(2,218 posts)
10. One simple question I asked myself made me a liberal
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:48 AM
Feb 2021

I grew up my entire life hearing about conservative values. I decided to list them. That was nearly fifty years ago. I still can't name a single virtue that conservatives will put above their own personal convenience.


DFW

(54,436 posts)
14. I am quite conservative, but as defined in English, not by right wing Fox pundits
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 04:08 AM
Feb 2021

I am your classic conservative, at least as defined in a dictionary of the English language (as opposed to Republicanese).

I still work for the same outfit that recruited me out of college in 1975. I have been with the same wonderful woman since 1974. We have raised two solid, intelligent children who have grown up, think independently, did well in their respective colleges, and have jobs in which they earn their own living, have stable, long-term relationships, and are well-respected in their chosen fields.

I am risk-averse, and do not like to make rash, un-thought-out decisions. I have no debts. I have no addictions, not even to alcohol, religion, gambling, or nicotine. My favorite American philosopher is the 18th century Thomas Jefferson.

I am the epitome of “conservative.” Why am I a Democrat? Simple: I do not believe that having a different ethnic background, belief, or income makes one a superior or an inferior being to myself.

On Fox Noise or National Hate Radio, and in the right wing print press, a "Conservative" means a right-wing Republican. But just like wading into the ocean doesn't make you a fish, Republicans hijacking the term "conservative" (small c) doesn't mean they get to re-write the dictionary.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
20. I refuse to let myself be defined by a propaganda outlet mislabling itself as a news broadcaster.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 07:13 AM
Feb 2021

If an animal has feathers, looks like a turkey, struts like a turkey, and makes a noise like a turkey, then even if you call it "Fox," it's still a turkey.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. Right. And I believe in personal responsibility and
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 07:19 AM
Feb 2021

being kind of animals, but who doesn't? For all the noise, neither are politically defining.

Walleye

(31,039 posts)
23. 😎😁 Sounds like it's similar to the way Joe Biden lives his life. Good job.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 07:55 AM
Feb 2021

My older brother is like that. He is a solid liberal Democrat. Me, I have many regrets but I’ve always been a liberal. Maybe because I’ve always had sympathy for the oddball. I remember my first political stance was when I wrote an essay in school against capital punishment. I have never wavered on that position. Thanks for your story. I really have a hard time understanding these right wing nuts.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
11. I was 16 when Bobby and MLK were shot
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:52 AM
Feb 2021

My views haven‘t changed much since then.

I have one cousin in Tennessee who I hear is a rabid Republican, but I haven‘t seen him since 1994. The rest of my side of the family is a solid wall of Democrats. My wife‘s side is either solid Merkel wing of the CDU (her parents‘ generation) or SPD with some Grüne/Bündnis 90 thrown in.

Any political discussions are usually over headlines, since most of our opinions are dully in agreement. Among us all, there is one who likes fancy meals and vacations while making the least money. That person has blown much of what they got in the way of a modest inheritance, and is now living off of stimulus money. The rest of the American side of my family is solidly Biden/Obama/Clinton, depending upon in which decade you asked them.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
12. How Can One Be A Conservative When They Are Extinct
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 03:59 AM
Feb 2021

It is a meaningless word, used to make confused people with no soul, conscience, or empathy feel good about watching others suffer.

DFW

(54,436 posts)
16. That's easy. They just change the meaning of the word to suit their prejudices.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 04:20 AM
Feb 2021

The word isn't extinct at all. Webster's publishes my dictionary, not Rupert Murdoch or Sean Hannity. I don't choose my words according to their perverted definitions (see my post #14).

I still find the old saying to be true: walking inside a church doesn't make you a Christian any more than walking inside a garage makes you a car.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Roughly 1/2 the human race is conservative by personality type.
Sat Feb 6, 2021, 07:04 AM
Feb 2021

Personality is genetically linked and we're born leaning liberal or conservative, though a few may be "other." Effects of "nurture" on development of personality, and thus on formation of sociopolitical attitudes, are believed to usually be stronger, though.

Short form, conservatives are us, every bit as much as liberals are. We, all of us, need to put a stop to the kind of mass mindfucking that can corrupt and weaponize whole demographics. QAnon, which can infect both conservative and liberal minds, is teaching people in dozens of nations that can be done on a huge scale, without confusing the issue with a political party label.

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