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$15 Wage Now Included in House Reconciliation Bill! (Original Post) Nanjeanne Feb 2021 OP
So the parliamentarian has approved? Great! Karadeniz Feb 2021 #1
Wow, that is amazing. Demsrule86 Feb 2021 #2
Don't know for sure. Perhaps they are going with VP Harris overriding the Parlimentarian. Just kno Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #4
This is only the House version, and the last time the Senate Parliamentarian was overruled was 1975, Celerity Feb 2021 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Karadeniz Feb 2021 #3
Woohoo! mvd Feb 2021 #5
I'm loving the energy and guts we are seeing. Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #6
I know, real leadership for the people. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #8
always bdamomma Feb 2021 #10
Great news! BlueJac Feb 2021 #7
Keep pushing for it bdamomma Feb 2021 #9
What about Manchin? Ollie Garkie Feb 2021 #11
I would think Pelosi and Schumer would have spoken to him before Prog Caucus announced it. But who Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #14
It could Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #15
He has said he's against $15/hr, would be OK w $11/hr - don't know if this is phased in or not. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #16
It was always phased in. From the beginning. So Manchin never made sense. Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #18
Just not sure what actual text inserted in the bill is - if it starts at or below $11, Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #19
The original proposal was for $9.50 this year and then gradually increase to 2025 Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #20
Thanks Bernie! Arazi Feb 2021 #12
so which senate dems will be a no because of this? nt msongs Feb 2021 #13
This alone could be a major factor in Dems keeping the house in 2022. Nt Fiendish Thingy Feb 2021 #17
All I'm seeing so far is that the CBO estimates it would increase Hortensis Feb 2021 #21
The Progressive Caucus announced that it was included in the House Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #23
Sure. If USProgressives is the House Democratic Progressive Caucus, Hortensis Feb 2021 #25
Not understanding this? Are you saying it's isn't included in the House Reconciliation Bill? Or Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #26
No, no, no. I always look for confirmation is all. This is so Hortensis Feb 2021 #27
Oh. Sorry. Yes it was announced by Progressive Caucus. As you say, small steps Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #28
FIRST step! :) Hortensis Feb 2021 #30
Ooops! Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #31
Even if it means it fails because we lose Manchin and maybe one other? nt LAS14 Feb 2021 #22
Don't know. I would think Nancy Pelosi has spoken to whomever in the Senate she needs to before Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #24
What about the CBO report that this would cause a loss of 1.4 million jobs? Marius25 Feb 2021 #29
Here's Rev Barber's response to that! Nanjeanne Feb 2021 #32

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
4. Don't know for sure. Perhaps they are going with VP Harris overriding the Parlimentarian. Just kno
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:04 PM
Feb 2021

Progressive Caucus has announced that it's included in the House Reconciliation Bill.

I'm going to let them figure out how it gets done!

Celerity

(43,335 posts)
33. This is only the House version, and the last time the Senate Parliamentarian was overruled was 1975,
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 06:39 PM
Feb 2021

by Nelson Rockefeller.


https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/a-senate-referee-could-hold-the-keys-to-health-care-changes

And on rare occasions, a presiding officer will overrule the Parliamentarian. In 1975, Vice President Nelson Rockefeller ignored advice from Senate Parliamentarian Floyd Riddick about the proper procedure for handing a vote about changing the Senate’s filibuster rules.

Response to Nanjeanne (Original post)

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
10. always
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:14 PM
Feb 2021

remember Democratic administrations know how to get the economy moving again, they know how to govern, repigs do not.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
9. Keep pushing for it
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:12 PM
Feb 2021

never stop, cause you know Repigs want to keep Americans sick and poor. they proved it over and over again.

Let us show who is in charge.

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
14. I would think Pelosi and Schumer would have spoken to him before Prog Caucus announced it. But who
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:23 PM
Feb 2021

knows?

Johnny2X2X

(19,060 posts)
15. It could
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:24 PM
Feb 2021

But there could be a way forward, offer a slow timeline or waivers for states like WV. There are a million ways to get this done.

$15 Minimum wage is extremely important to me, not because I have made less than $15 an hour for a long time, but because I remember what it was like to struggle on $10 an hour and how hopeless life seemed then. I don't want my fellow citizens to feel hopeless. $15 will lift millions out of poverty and give hope to tens of millions. But $15 should be adjusted annually or we'll just end up in the same spot in a couple of decades.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
19. Just not sure what actual text inserted in the bill is - if it starts at or below $11,
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:35 PM
Feb 2021

Manchin better be OK with it.

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
20. The original proposal was for $9.50 this year and then gradually increase to 2025
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:41 PM
Feb 2021

Frankly I think it should be $15 now (or actually $20 now) but I've never understood Manchin's problem except that he is a dick.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. All I'm seeing so far is that the CBO estimates it would increase
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:42 PM
Feb 2021

the deficit, an argument for being able to include it in a bill passed by reconciliation. So far, Sanders as finance chair has not announced, nor any of the party leaders.

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
23. The Progressive Caucus announced that it was included in the House
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:47 PM
Feb 2021

reconciliation bill.




That's all I posted. What happens from the House to the Senate in terms of procedure I'm not sure. But I bet Nancy Pelosi knows.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Sure. If USProgressives is the House Democratic Progressive Caucus,
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:53 PM
Feb 2021

it makes sense that they'd be allowed to announce this big news. First step...

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
26. Not understanding this? Are you saying it's isn't included in the House Reconciliation Bill? Or
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:57 PM
Feb 2021

just that it hasn't been picked up by CNN yet?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. No, no, no. I always look for confirmation is all. This is so
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:59 PM
Feb 2021

new discussion hasn't hit the web yet.

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
24. Don't know. I would think Nancy Pelosi has spoken to whomever in the Senate she needs to before
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 05:49 PM
Feb 2021

including it.

Maybe not - but I'd be shocked if Nancy put it in with no input from the Senate.

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
32. Here's Rev Barber's response to that!
Mon Feb 8, 2021, 06:19 PM
Feb 2021



I guess lifting people out of poverty is the important criteria. Besides, now that the CBO says it's going to cost jobs - it fits in perfectly with reconciliation as it affects the budget!!!

And here's an article from 2019 that discusses the CBO's flawed metrics as well as information from states that raised minimum wage without job loss.

https://equitablegrowth.org/research-shows-raising-the-minimum-wage-does-not-spell-job-loss/

I'm pretty sure - we can find an paper or research for any side anyone wants to sit on. But I prefer talking about morality and the idea that people are trying to live on $7.25/hour - or $290/week - or $15,000 year (before taxes) is disgraceful. States with that wage in 2021:

Alabama, Georgia (actually they were even lower except for Employers subject to Fair Labor Standards), Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, NH, NC, ND, OK, PA, SC, TN, Texas, Utah, Wisconsin, Wyoming (also lower except like GA).

I'm sorry but even in some of these states with a lower cost of living - it's shameful.

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