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Michael Steele said that if Merick Garland tries to prosecute Trump (Original Post) DLCWIdem Feb 2021 OP
nope TeamPooka Feb 2021 #1
Hah. It will encourage donors. GoneOffShore Feb 2021 #2
No Airotciv60 Feb 2021 #3
Merrick Garland will follow the Law Hekate Feb 2021 #4
Yeah. But that will be a high bar with the insurrection DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #10
Michael, turning donors on or off is not the point Blue Owl Feb 2021 #5
Donors to whom? Democrats or Donny Bodybags? Squinch Feb 2021 #6
It's certainly possible, but that's not a reason not to do so. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #7
Well I think GA has a strong case DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #14
Probably would be for Steele. Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #16
I think he has a point, actually. TwilightZone Feb 2021 #21
Hell no. mzmolly Feb 2021 #8
That is the problem with our current system. Dustlawyer Feb 2021 #9
It's an oligarchy. Money rules. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #15
+1 Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #25
We are in the latter part of a stealth takeover ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #28
We have been an oligarchy for several decades now. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #29
Buchanan wrote his book about it in 1975 ... Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #32
I noticed the flip to an oligarchy about the mid 80's. Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #34
Yep, Rotten Ronnie was the puppet they needed. We've been fighting it ever since. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #36
Republican donors to the GOP (or TOP) maybe. Vinca Feb 2021 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Deuce Feb 2021 #12
Well, I suppose it depends on which donors PatSeg Feb 2021 #13
And what he is charged with. Would not be my big worry...donors. I think it will solidify Dems dutch777 Feb 2021 #33
I agree PatSeg Feb 2021 #35
Trump's many crimes require a special prosecutor dlk Feb 2021 #17
I hope Garland focuses on domestic terror BeyondGeography Feb 2021 #18
Well. Some of those groups are already purportedly angry at Trump DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #23
I had no idea Garland accepts donations. tinrobot Feb 2021 #19
Are you being sarcastic. Or are you honestly not understanding. DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #46
Michael Steele is the most republican of all TLP founders. I do not trust him Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #20
Well what he said is that it would energise republican in 2 years. DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #42
As the party Jamaal510 Feb 2021 #50
Small donor's are the lifeblood of Democratic campaigns. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #22
Completely disagree Pachamama Feb 2021 #24
No. Steele's not a Dem. ananda Feb 2021 #26
special prosecutor needed for Trump andym Feb 2021 #27
Which should give us pause DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #45
Not this donor. I'm not one of the big cats but there are a lot more like me. In fact it would light dameatball Feb 2021 #30
Did you ever notice that it's mostly Republicans who claim this kind of shit? GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #31
He doesn't understand Democrats if he thinks that lunatica Feb 2021 #37
Not Democratic donors. sinkingfeeling Feb 2021 #38
If he tries to prosecute trump, yes. If he prosecutes trump, no. beastie boy Feb 2021 #39
Hell to the no. gibraltar72 Feb 2021 #40
It will some... hurple Feb 2021 #41
What donors? mcar Feb 2021 #43
Turn off which donors and to who ? JI7 Feb 2021 #44
I thought that comment about donors DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #47
Yes. Exactly along those lines. I also sort of thought it would bring out the base against the Dems DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #48
Michael Steele was raving about how great Nikki Haley is this morning. PlanetBev Feb 2021 #49
If That Is His Rationale.... DAngelo136 Feb 2021 #51

Blue Owl

(49,340 posts)
5. Michael, turning donors on or off is not the point
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:12 PM
Feb 2021

Justice for proven crimes committed is the point...

TwilightZone

(24,566 posts)
7. It's certainly possible, but that's not a reason not to do so.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:12 PM
Feb 2021

I'd actually prefer that a different jurisdiction (or several, preferably) pursue Trump for criminal activity. There certainly seems like there's enough to go around.

TwilightZone

(24,566 posts)
21. I think he has a point, actually.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:19 PM
Feb 2021

A lot of organizations donate to both parties. It is possible that some of them might prefer that a former president, even Trump, not be pursued by the current administration for whatever reasons.

Again, that's not a reason not to pursue Trump, but I think it's within the realm of possibility.

Dustlawyer

(10,487 posts)
9. That is the problem with our current system.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:13 PM
Feb 2021

Big Donors should not get a say in whether or not to seek justice.

Hermit-The-Prog

(32,435 posts)
32. Buchanan wrote his book about it in 1975 ...
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:40 PM
Feb 2021

[ ... ]
Economists Tyler Cowen and Alexander Tabarrok, both of George Mason University, have noted the two men’s affinities, heralding Calhoun “a precursor of modern public choice theory” who “anticipates” Buchanan’s thinking. MacLean observes that both focused on how democracy constrains property owners and aimed for ways to restrict the latitude of voters. She argues that unlike even the most property-friendly founders Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, Buchanan wanted a private governing elite of corporate power that was wholly released from public accountability.

Suppressing voting, changing legislative processes so that a normal majority could no longer prevail, sowing public distrust of government institutions— all these were tactics toward the goal. But the Holy Grail was the Constitution: alter it and you could increase and secure the power of the wealthy in a way that no politician could ever challenge.

Gravy Train to Oligarchy

MacLean explains that Virginia’s white elite and the pro-corporate president of the University of Virginia, Colgate Darden, who had married into the DuPont family, found Buchanan’s ideas to be spot on. In nurturing a new intelligentsia to commit to his values, Buchanan stated that he needed a “gravy train,” and with backers like Charles Koch and conservative foundations like the Scaife Family Charitable Trusts, others hopped aboard. Money, Buchanan knew, can be a persuasive tool in academia. His circle of influence began to widen.


[ ... ]

https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/meet-the-economist-behind-the-one-percents-stealth-takeover-of-america

Vinca

(50,066 posts)
11. Republican donors to the GOP (or TOP) maybe.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:13 PM
Feb 2021

Seeing Trump held accountable will open my wallet BIGLY.

Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

PatSeg

(46,249 posts)
13. Well, I suppose it depends on which donors
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:15 PM
Feb 2021

A lot of big donors are withholding money from republicans who opposed certification of the election, so I don't think those donors would have a problem with prosecuting Trump.

BeyondGeography

(39,150 posts)
18. I hope Garland focuses on domestic terror
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:15 PM
Feb 2021

If and when Trump’s name comes up as part of that, so much the better.

Eviscerate and expose the seamy underbelly of Trump’s base and send as many of them to jail as possible. That will demoralize them and ruin Trump politically. It’s a two-fer and better for the safety of the country as well.

DLCWIdem

(1,511 posts)
46. Are you being sarcastic. Or are you honestly not understanding.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:26 PM
Feb 2021

Because I know I may not have made myself understood unless you had listened to the segment

Thekaspervote

(32,106 posts)
20. Michael Steele is the most republican of all TLP founders. I do not trust him
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:16 PM
Feb 2021

Has said other stuff that just isn’t in line with TLP

DLCWIdem

(1,511 posts)
42. Well what he said is that it would energise republican in 2 years.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:16 PM
Feb 2021

Steele said it would be the gift that keeps on giving

OAITW r.2.0

(23,094 posts)
22. Small donor's are the lifeblood of Democratic campaigns.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:20 PM
Feb 2021

They'll be no appreciable loss of donors, big or small. But, let's see how the Trump Republican Party can fundraise for 2022. Remember, Rubes, DJT's lawyer threw you under the bus today.

andym

(5,423 posts)
27. special prosecutor needed for Trump
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:27 PM
Feb 2021

and it seems even McConnell was hinting at criminal prosecution with Trump acting as an "ordinary citizen" when inciting the insurrection.

DLCWIdem

(1,511 posts)
45. Which should give us pause
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:22 PM
Feb 2021

Mcturtle doesn't do anything without calculation. Claire Mckaskil made the point that he said that to bring back those big donors who had started holding back from the Republicans right after the terrorist attack on 1/6.

dameatball

(7,358 posts)
30. Not this donor. I'm not one of the big cats but there are a lot more like me. In fact it would light
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:32 PM
Feb 2021

a fire under a lot of small donors imo.

GoCubsGo

(32,031 posts)
31. Did you ever notice that it's mostly Republicans who claim this kind of shit?
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:38 PM
Feb 2021

Claiming "If the Democrats do this, they only hurt themselves" every time the GQP fucks up has been a go-to Republican tactic for decades. They do it out of projection, and in hopes that it the Dems will buy this bullshit, and be too scared to act. Steele is still a Republican. It's no surprise he's falling back on this tired, old tactic. Fortunately, the Dems are no longer falling for this garbage.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
37. He doesn't understand Democrats if he thinks that
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 05:57 PM
Feb 2021

He’s still thinking like a Republican so I’m fine with him choosing to remain a Republican.

hurple

(1,299 posts)
41. It will some...
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 07:31 PM
Feb 2021

But not all, and many many more new donors will crawl out of the woodwork.

We saw on Nov 6 2020 that anti-trump sentiment runs far higher and burns far brighter than pro-trump sentiment...

DeminPennswoods

(15,231 posts)
47. I thought that comment about donors
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:27 PM
Feb 2021

was related to McConnell's machinations. Something to the effect that McConnell is angling to goad Biden's DoJ to investigate Trump and if it does, that would drive donors back to the GOP. I guess the logic is that donors who are currently boycotting the GOP would suddenly come to their senses about how bad Dems are and come running back into the arms of the GOP.

I wasn't paying close attention, but that's what filtered into my brain.

PlanetBev

(4,092 posts)
49. Michael Steele was raving about how great Nikki Haley is this morning.
Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:39 PM
Feb 2021

He is still a Republican and Haley is still the epitome of political calculation.

DAngelo136

(264 posts)
51. If That Is His Rationale....
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:27 AM
Feb 2021

For not pursuing justice against Donald Trump, then it illustrates in Technicolor why Citizens United is so toxic to politics
and why Election Finance reform has to be made a priority. Voters, not donors should be the ultimate consideration; ballots not dollars reflect the will of the people.

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