Whose behind Qanon?

[duforsure]

From what propaganda they use, Putin and trump is my guess. Their past patterns promoting propaganda are the same. Accuse others of what you're doing, claim they're victims. Lie then repeat the lie. Sound familiar? Using wealthy backers to finance it. Then deny , deny , deny any involvement.

[hlthe2b]

5. I think you probably meant to post this as a separate thread, rather than a response here...

?

[hlthe2b]

2. Given Mike Flynn's involvement in propagating, I'd say Russia may well be behind it.

[duforsure]

3. Yep,

And suspect at least two other close associates of trump.

[duforsure]

4. Yep,

And suspect at least two other close associates of trump.

[PatSeg]

22. Yes, I'd say that Russia is the number one culprit

Being Q is anonymous, there could be others that feed the frenzy as well, but I'd bet it originated with Russia.

[Jack from Charlotte]

30. I'd say it is 2 guys in a bar throwing back some G&Ts making a bet.....

They're watching some Republic Party members saying the stupidest, childish things. One bets the other he can make up the most idiotic thing possible and he can get a bunch of Republicans to believe and act upon it. That's how the Pizzagate ... Hilary Clinton raping children in the basement of a pizza parlor in Washington thing.... started. Of course before you know it a patriotic, republican guy takes his guns and goes to the pizza parlor and starts shooting. The bet is paid off.

Next the ante is raised and the....Jewish Death Ray from outer space is causing California fires scenario is thought up. No one will buy that, ever. Except, there are 2 believers currently in congress. Another bet paid off.

I'm pretty sure that's Q began and continues..

[PatSeg]

31. You know, my daughter and I have

painted similar scenarios. Though we were inclined to picture some Russian trolls making bets on what was the most outlandish story they could post and still be believed by republican voters. I can visualize them challenging one another to come up with something weirder and more outrageous. Lots of laughter and shots of vodka, "I swear Ivan, those Americans will believe anything!"

[BGBD]

6. It's not Putin

Or Trump.

It's more of a viral marketing campaign than an intelligence operation.

Most likely Ron and Jim Watkins posting as Q in an effort to drive traffic to their stolen website, 8-chan.

Grifters of all kinds have used it for one reason or another, but that is what started it.

[pwb]

7. I am going with Putin.

And Trump.

[BGBD]

8. K

You're wrong though.

[pwb]

9. Says you?

So there's that.

[BGBD]

10. Says

People who research it and other conspiracy theories.

[pwb]

11. The O P and others disagree.

.

[BGBD]

12. Couldn't care less

What people think. That's like saying climate change isn't real because some people say it isn't.

Jim Watkins owns a website at the same IP address that the Qanon trip code posts from. Qanon has posted exclusively on Watkins properties since just after the first drops, and for months while 8chan was offline did not post elsewhere until it was up again.

[Bradshaw3]

13. That is telling

I also have been persuaded by the LARP theory, that it was created by someone with game design experience. Now Putin or drumpf could have used someone like that, but your scenario seems more likely. Drumpf could be involved in that someone close to him could know who is doing it and talked the moron in chief to go along by making breadcrumb statements that fit with whatever looney theory Qanon came up with.

[pwb]

20. Maybe because I don't know who those people you mentioned are?

But I believe Vlad and Trump work hand in hand. But you go with that and the climate denial for fun.

[PatSeg]

24. Why didn't you just say that

instead of the dismissive, "You are wrong though"?

I didn't know about Jim Watkins and his website. That would have been interesting information to know.

[Bev54]

21. I am with you, I think if and when they are exposed

it will have ties with the Russian GRU of FSB leading right back to Putin.

[shrike3]

17. I agree with you. Or it could be the most epic troll of all time from someone who just wants to see

what bullshit people believe.

[lagomorph777]

18. It's Putin and Trump.

Yes, the people you mention may be involved, and there may be hundreds of people who pose as "Q" but the funding and the masterminds are TrumPutin.

[DFW]

14. Whose behind?

Does it matter whose behind it is? An ass is an ass is an ass.

(Did you mean "who's behind" by any chance?)

[Arthur_Frain]

25. Was wondering where the grammar/spelling cops were.

all the way down at #14!

[BlueTsunami2018]

15. Richard Watkins.

He’s the leader of a neo-Nazi group called The Base. They’re very active in the militia community and have been involved with a lot of political violence.

[Turin_C3PO]

16. Not Trump.

He’s not smart enough to make a game like Q. Maybe Putin’s minions.

[PatSeg]

27. I was thinking the same thing

Trump might repeat and endorse all the Q crazy, but he's not strategic or disciplined enough to be the original source.

[TuskMoar]

19. Funded By Putin, but

Putin does not personally type up the conspiracy theories and post them. It frustrates me to no end that this person can not be unmasked. I wish someone would unmask this person. His anonymity gives this person or organization a sense of undeserved deification by his followers that would be removed when they see this organization for who they really are.

[ripcord]

23. You will never figure it out.

Q

[Bucky]

26. Before the year is out, some Republicans will be blaming Qanon on Antifa...

or at least on Hillary's email

[PatSeg]

28. Or Hunter Biden

[Botany]

29. Russia

[theneworiginal]

32. Quack-anon is a Russian cyber weapon.

If they could give awards to the most lethal, batshit-crazy concept ever to infect American consciousness, this would be the clear winner.

[peggysue2]

33. Just read an article this morning about Q making its presence known in France

There the driver of the organization is an Albanian. Its purpose? As is the case here to sow confusion, doubt and continuing chaos in a democratic country. The emphasis in France appears to be Covid, governmental overreach and the establishment of a New World Order.

Hummmm. Who benefits?

[Baked Potato]

34. Originally some bored government employee

Now, co-opted by anybody who has a means and motive to keep it going.

It like a My Pet Rock.

[Vinca]

35. No idea, but just for giggles Hillary should claim to be Q.