They got the guy that gouged out the officer's eye on

[leftyladyfrommo]

Jan. 6. He is an X cop. He turned himself in.

Excuse me if someone already posted this. I didn't see anything on it.

What were these people thinking? It makes no sense to me.

[JHB]

1. They were thinking they were saviors of the republic...

...and not the pack of traitorous criminals they actually were.

[leftyladyfrommo]

2. I don't understand how someone could be so delusional.

I just don't get it.

[JHB]

4. Years and years s stead diet of axe-grinding and crackpottery.

[DBoon]

14. Listen to AM talk radio

Watch NewsMax and OAN and Fox.

Read Breitbart.

You will get it then.

[Johnny999r]

89. Listen to AM talk radio

Listening to their propaganda is how most of the ignorant get their motivation. We know their lies, but the other side falls into the trap because they are already raging that their white America is being polluted. Look at the crowd of Jan 6th or any Trump rally, most of them look related. Similar physical and appearance profiles and that holds true to the Bundy crowd during his followers standoff during the Obama administration. Bundy had a number of snipers already in place on a bridge aiming sniper rifles down on local and federal officers during the standoff. These assholes should have been treated like enemy combatants, outflanked and ordered to drop their weapons.

[COL Mustard]

23. Cognitive Dissonance Is Real

It's easier to foist on the low information people who walk among us, and whose votes cancel out mine.

Well, at least for now. With that whole felony thing, maybe no more voting. Oh, and no more gun ownership. Unless you really like prison.

[Leghorn21]

3. Best news EVER

BYE BYE MOTHERFUCKER

[wryter2000]

6. Jesus

I hadn't heard about this. Fucking bastard.

[underpants]

9. God that's brutal.

[empedocles]

10. Sure is

[obamanut2012]

16. You don't see a charge of Mayhem very often

So glad they got this bastard.

[colorado_ufo]

20. What a waste of oxygen.

God bless that poor officer who was blinded. Just horrific.

He ought to go to SuperMax in Florence, CO. He is too dangerous to ever be let out on the streets!

[DENVERPOPS]

74. He is wayyyyy down the list of those

That should be in Supermax........... Trump, his spawn, McConnell and Graham should be the first.

[lagomorph777]

83. Trump and the ringleaders should go to Gitmo. Then fill the SuperMax with the rabble.

[Lucky Luciano]

85. They can all go to Florence/Gitmo. Solitary confinement for life.

[DENVERPOPS]

88. Super Max IS solitary for life.

Why do you think McVeigh begged the court to execute him?????????????

[appmanga]

44. This is the one photograph...

...they needed to have during the impeachment.

[calimary]

73. Welcome to DU, appmanga!

Glad they finally caught this bastard. Is he proud of what he's done? SCHMUCK.

[orleans]

47. and no one that knows him saw this or had the courage to turn him in? ugh. n/t

[Maraya1969]

63. I don't mean to be an idiot but that picture looks like the guy is helping the one

whose eye has been punctured.

Or................what is happening in this photo?

[jeffreyi]

69. No.

According to the criminal complaint, Webster pinned the officer down and tried to remove the officer's face shield and gas mask. Which were affixed to the officer's head via a strap. Then the officer proceeded to choke. And, somehow in the process, somebody (not sure it was this officer) sustained enough trauma to lose an eye.

[oasis]

5. The criminal should get the max for his depravity. nt

[Mr.Bill]

13. Go biblical on him.

An eye for an eye.

[Traildogbob]

17. Let the victim

At him with a hammer and chisel. As God taught us.

[erronis]

29. I don't know about your "God". I do like eye-for-eye and vengeance, however.

[keithbvadu2]

41. Eye for an eye was meant to be fair justice but not excessive

Last edited Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Eye for an eye was meant to be fair justice but not excessive

http://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/Biblequestions/eyeforeye.htm

1. History of the legislation. The lex talionis is found in three passages in the
Old Testament (Ex. 21:23, 24; Lev. 24:19, 20; and Deut. 19:21). A similar law is found in
the ancient Mesopotamian code of Hammurabi. Earlier codes legislated financial
compensation for bodily injuries, but Hammurabi seems to have been the first to require
physical injury for physical injury. This has led some historians to conclude that there
was a time when monetary compensation redressed personal injuries because the state did
not consider them to be crimes against society.
The law of equivalency was a significant development in the history of
jurisprudence in the sense that what used to be a private matter between two families was
now taken over by the state and considered to be criminal behavior. This fits very well
with the Old Testament understanding of offenses against others as offenses against the
covenant community and against the God of the covenant.
2. The principle involved. The law of equivalency was an attempt to limit the
extent of a punishment and to discourage cruelty. The principle of this legislation is
one of equivalency; that is to say, the punishment should correspond to the crime and
should be limited to the one involved in the injury (Deut. 19:18-21).
This law was a rejection of family feuds and the spirit of revenge that led the
injured party to uncontrolled attacks against the culprit and the members of his or her
family (cf. Gen. 4:23). The punishment was required to fit the crime, a principle still
used in modern jurisprudence. I must add that in the Bible this law was applied equally
to all members of society (Lev. 24:22), while in Mesopotamia it was limited to crimes
against society's "important" people.

[Traildogbob]

43. Don't have one

He has proven to love some fucked up people. A few good rules I like though.

[jmowreader]

36. Let's not do that

He's going to need his eyesight to see the garbage he'll be picking up alongside the road for the next 50 years.

I'd rather take his house, his car and his guns.

[Traildogbob]

46. Gott be more

Than picking up garbage for brutally taking another’s eye out. Something more like scribing a major cities underground sewage allies, with a brush and a mop. 50 years of that.

[jmowreader]

62. Too bad we don't still have cesspools

Being ordered to shovel them out for 50 years might be fitting.

[Grins]

87. ...his FAT Pension... NM

[snpsmom]

37. Lex talionis (the law of retribution)

whereby a punishment resembles the offense committed in kind and degree was originally intended to limit the punishment meted out for offenses. Like, if you gouge out my eye, I can only take your eye in retribution, not lay waste to your entire village. Always found that interesting. Humans are complicated.

[Mr.Bill]

39. Actually the idea of warehousing bad people in cages for long periods of time

is a recent development in the history of mankind. I'm sure it was thought to be more humane but sometimes I wonder.

[snpsmom]

48. Yep. It doesn't seem to be helpful n/t

[BobTheSubgenius]

51. I was thinking Hammurabi was underappreciated these days.

[OldBaldy1701E]

54. I have been saying that for some time

So, when I have spoken about how I sometimes feel that Hammurabi had it right, they quote a version of this little gem: "The problem with an eye for an eye is that everyone ends up blind." My response to this one is to point out that their version of this means, despite all talk to the contrary, that humans are fundamentally evil and will always do anything and everything horrible to one another at the first opportune moment, since that is the only explanation for his scenario. People usually don't like this being pointed out. Face facts, if everyone ended up blind from having both of their eyes put out, it was because they continued to be evil bastards, even after losing the first eye. I then ask them if they really feel that way, that the human race is either incapable of co-existing without law or is completely irredeemable. Because the concept of everyone losing their eyes sure says that to me.

[theneworiginal]

84. Put "COP" on his prison jumpsuit.

Anyone who betrays the badge and his brothers deserves nothing less.

[snowybirdie]

7. I'm flabbergasted

that a former law enforcement officer would do that to a fellow officer. Depravity!

[drray23]

8. i wonder what he did do to minorities

when he was a cop if he is willing to do that to a fellow white cop

[Talitha]

57. Excellent point!

[mcar]

11. I'm glad they got him

Lock him the hell up!

[Hekate]

12. Good to hear. That incident has haunted me. nt

[SunSeeker]

15. What? He wasn't Antifa?

[FM123]

18. I have no words.

[COL Mustard]

25. I Do, But They Would Probably Get Me A Visit From LEO

Which is something I don't need, and neither do you.

[occupant]

19. This is war, goddammit

No fucking bail for this guy! No letting him go with a goddam teather. NO letting him go on his planned vacation. No letting him eat only fucking Organic food. WTF is with these damn judges??? This is war, your fucking honor! Get it????

[Progressive Jones]

70. He was denied bail by the judge today. nt

[roamer65]

21. Put him in general population.

No preferential treatment.

He will last maybe a year or two. They don’t like cops.

[erronis]

30. I wouldn't say "They don't like cops." They don't like injustice. And this ex-cop will meet his

just rewards.

There's a lot of honor behind bars. Much more than we see in the (r)epuglicon party.

[liberalla]

22. So glad to read this news. This was such a brutal act that shocked me terribly.

Thank you for posting.

[Thekaspervote]

24. What were they thinking? They weren't ....pure hate/rage blinds everything

[LakeArenal]

60. Yet Hawley and Ron Johnson dispute it as a more festive event.

[flotsam]

66. You've never seen...

A festive eye plucking?

[LakeArenal]

68. Spiritual even.

[flotsam]

72. Simple +1 N/T

[Grasswire2]

75. that sounds like a line from Monty Python. nt

[Merlot]

26. A capitol police officer said they were like meth addicts in an interview

that I read - sorry no link. I just remember how jolting it was to read that.

[Botany]

27. Gee he doesn't look too much like a dick

[Deuxcents]

50. OMG

This is the face of pure evil.

[Rustyeye77]

28. I hope he enjoys the rest of his pathetic life

in prison.

[hurple]

31. See the recently posted Malcolm Nance video

For what these asshats are thinking.

The RW noise machine has so dehumanized anyone who dares stand against the right and getting anything and everything they want for so long, that it's almost amazing this crap isn't happening everyday.

[bringthePaine]

32. this fucker and his ilk have no place in civil society, and should be permanently "quarantined"

[KT2000]

33. Great news!! The most horrible attack

He belongs behind bars for the rest of his life. The poor man who lost his eye over this insanity deserves justice.

[lpbk2713]

34. So much for police being a brotherhood.

[keopeli]

35. Is there a link to this?

[Leghorn21]

40. Here's one of many, k:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/retired-nypd-cop-once-assigned-to-secure-city-hall-charged-in-pipe-attack-on-capitol-police-officials/2904889/

Even though it happened yesterday, news is just starting to ripple outwards now

Also, here are his charging documents:

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1369976/download

[ShazzieB]

42. Thanks for the links.

I googled but wasn't having much luck. All I found were "Have you seen this man?" articles. Knowing his name makes a big difference.

Now I do, so thanks for that.

[Leghorn21]

56. Hey, my pleasure, Shazzie

I’ll tell you, though, I’m not seeing in the documents that this is the animal who caused the poor cop to lose an eye — I think the photo makes it LOOK like he’s gouging when he’s actually trying to yank the cop’s face mask off, which OH BY THE WAY just about strangled the guy!!??

So, I’m very content to see this sick bastard locked UP!!!

[SunSeeker]

77. Thanks. The article and charging documents don't mention eye gouging.

The charging document says Webster tried to take the officer's gas mask off, causing the officer to be choked by the mask's chin strap, and that the assault lasted about 10 seconds. That is what is depicted in those pictures. I would think it would have mentioned an eye gouging if this is the guy who is suspected of doing that.

[Oldem]

38. I hope they throw the

book at this guy. A whole shelf of books.

[ShazzieB]

45. Why stop at one shelf?

Throw the whole library at him.

Actually, I take that back. Those poor books deserve a better fate. Locking him up for a good long time will suffice for me.

[Paladin]

49. I hope he never sees the outside of a prison for the rest of his life. (nt)

[onethatcares]

52. was he duped into this too?

gaud, make it stop.....puhleeze.

[alfredo]

71. It's amazing that many are turning on trump. GRIN

[Alpeduez21]

53. They were thinking their hatred for us

Justified attacking congress. This is a war and EVERY election is important. Never forgive and never forget what requkes want for America. The lazy lying steaming pile Hp ran on a racist agenda and half of America supports that. Requkes would bring back slavery. Make them accountable

[MontanaMama]

55. Can the injured officer and/or his family

file a civil lawsuit as well? I’m guessing the officer can no longer be on the CP force with only one eye.

[Red Mountain]

61. I hope they find a place for him

Maybe working the metal detectors so the traitors among us can see him every single day of their lives.

[Hassler]

58. Rot in prison, asshole.

[Cha]

59. Kick

[Bucky]

64. I wonder where he learned to be so physically brutal

[Pompoy]

65. This police officer didn't lose his eye

The story about his charges doesn't say that, although I googled for "officer lost eye during Capitol attack", and whap popped up was a story about the Union head of the Capitol Police angry that a couple had brain injuries, and one will lose his eye.
Maybe it's about another incident but I want DU to be more careful about facts, we should be better than the other side.

[oasis]

67. See post #3

[SunSeeker]

78. The charging documents don't mention eye gouging.

The charging document says Webster tried to take the officer's gas mask off, causing the officer to be choked by the mask's chin strap, and that the assault lasted about 10 seconds. That is what is depicted in those pictures. I would think it would have mentioned an eye gouging if this is the guy who is suspected of doing that.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1369976/download

[SunSeeker]

79. I think you're right, Webster does not appear to be the eye gouger.

The charging document says Webster tried to take the officer's gas mask off, causing the officer to be choked by the mask's chin strap, and that the assault lasted about 10 seconds. That is what is depicted in those pictures. I would think it would have mentioned an eye gouging if this is the guy who is suspected of doing that. https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/case-multi-defendant/file/1369976/download

[Blue Owl]

76. Another one down!

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

80. A cop again.

They wonder why we don't trust them. We never know which ones to trust. This guy is one of the cops that creates that distrust.

[Trueblue Texan]

81. They were thinking...

...that Donald Trump would pardon them all! Fools! He doesn't give a shit about them. He was using them like he uses everyone. Nice goin', SUCKERS!

[IronLionZion]

82. These people claim to be backing the blue

by gauging out eyes, beating to death with fire extinguishers, and generally violent psychotic behavior

[FeelingBlue]

86. Does anyone know...

If the judge could sentence him to wear an eye patch for the rest of his life- while he’s in prison and then beyond that? Short of removing his eye, imposing an eye patch could be on a kind of arc toward justice.