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(6,829 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Puhleeeeze! A little magic wand with a cute liddle star on top? Red white and blue shorts? Flipflops? Huge head? Gilded all over?
It's being snuck in to see how long it takes these fools to realize that it's a liberal hoax.
mopinko
(70,129 posts)we'll see where it ends up.
ret5hd
(20,499 posts)Hekate
(90,714 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Do they not understand that story did not end well for the calf's creators?
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)There are already half a dozen threads with this. We don't need to link to disgraced Republican grifters any more. Actual Democrats are covering it.
hlthe2b
(102,293 posts)it is YOUR responsibility to hide/trash the thread if you are so annoyed, rather than be rude to others. It is not the responsibility of other DUers to acquiesce to YOUR likes and dislikes.
Trash the thread and move along.
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)I thought most Democrats were. Especially Republicans who lie and cover up sexual assault and grooming and can't account for tens of millions of dollars they bilked in an election to enrich themselves.
Trash thread. Nah. I trash Republicans. I thought that's what this website was about.
Has that changed for you?
hlthe2b
(102,293 posts)You might want to rethink how you interact here if you wish to make this your home.
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)I feel welcome in that just fine. Thanks for the inquiry!
hlthe2b
(102,293 posts)Enjoy your stay here, however short.
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)It ain't me. I don't cotton to liars, thieves, and covering for people who sexually assault and groom young men. Especially when they have an R after their name.
If that's a problem, well, that's not on me to question someone's conscience. It's up to them to question themselves.
hlthe2b
(102,293 posts)Shame on YOU. DU deserves better.
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)So how come all the defense of them?
hlthe2b
(102,293 posts)If you continue like this, repercussions will catch up with you. Perhaps you haven't read the TOS. I encourage you to do so before it is too late. (Scroll down to the bottom of any page).
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)I personally am not fond of the members of the Lincoln Project. I recognize that several of them have actual talents, but they are not people that I would ever hang out with.
However, from my decades of work with the Onondaga Nation's Chief Paul Waterman, I appreciate that there are times when former opponents can be used as current allies. I think that applies to the Lincoln Project. They were useful in the 2020 presidential election. They may be useful in 2022.
That does not mean that we should mistake them for other than who and what they are. They are not Democrats, and should have zero influence within our party. We need to keep that boundary firmly in place.
Finally, the DUer you appear to be seeking to insult is a person that is well-respected as intelligent, sincere, and a very capable member of the Democratic Party and Democratic Underground. In all of the years that I have inhabited this forum, there has been no one that I have greater respect for. You might want to reconsider your tactics here -- disliking the members of the Lincoln Project is fine, but insulting those who recognize their potential value is not okay.
Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)I want to, but cannot, apologize for my antipathy towards the Lincoln Project. I sniffed them out as lying grifters from the start. And it just didn't help that they were predominantly promoted by the factions in our party who are forever attacking progressives. That fact just plain wasn't lost on me. It wasn't lost on anyone. And now, with all of the facts coming to light through objective, reputable journalistic sources, I see no reason to pretend they are welcome in our party as far as I'm personally concerned.
I'm glad they hate Trump and the movement he has spawned. We all hate what is going on with the Right at the moment. I think their motives are not our motives. I think Trump displaced them and ejected them from their pundit gravy train. He made them unneeded. So they latched onto Democrats as their financial escape hatch. All cons need a mark.
But there is no objective evidence they have made a smidgen of concrete difference electorally. Democratic pollsters have found that no one was moved by their ads. No undecideds wandered on over because of them. In fact, Trump got more votes than ever. What they did is preach to an eager social media choir. They told Trump haters what we already believed and wanted to hear. They accepted tens of millions in donations and spent it on themselves, their family and friends, and their associates. They plain didn't help us at all. And this was Democratic polling operations telling us this.
I read more than I post. I've read quite a few of your posts, and I respect you a great deal. If I see an OP by you, I read it. The poster in question read a lot into what I was saying that just plain wasn't there. There are many threads about the golden Trump idol already existent here. I know. I've read them. We do not need the Lincoln Project's opinion on this. We do not need their opinion on anything. They lied and covered up for a disturbed man who is accused of sexual grooming and assault. They knew. Reputable journalists did the research. They uncovered the evidence. They gathered testimony. They should be done. They kept tens of millions of dollars for themselves, used donations to pay personal debts, milked people to settled their finances. This is objective fact that has been thoroughly reported on by reputable journalists.
The LP does not belong in our party. I feel very strongly about this. The poster came after me first. I'll defend myself. I don't wilt at threats - and he did make threats about my "stay" here. Seniority is not a virtue if the principles that accompany it aren't in play. "I'm here longer!" isn't an answer to, "Well, yeah, but I'm right."
Right is right. Longevity has nothing to do with it. I'm sure he's an awesome person. But he took my post out of context, doubled down, and made threats. That's not ok. And I won't back off from that sort of thing. I'm a gay man. I don't care for bullying tactics. People have to try harder to get me to shut up. It wasn't impressive.
This is getting a little out of my fingers. I'll just say. I intended no insult anyone except the Lincoln Project. Given the facts we now know, I firmly believe they have no place in a Democratic space.
OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)Sympthsical
(9,076 posts)But if some are taken in that, "Nah, we're not sinking! We're just floating differently!" Well, that's on them, isn't it.